Smashmouth Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 4 years 30 mil 12 guaranteed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted June 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2021 But seriously: I'm probably not giving a 30-year old OT a 4-year deal unless there's an easy out after year 2. The # 8-13 highest paid RT range is $7-9M per year, so somewhere in there would work. So let's go 3 years, $24M, $10M in guarantees. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetsons Posted June 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2021 What JD offers is good by me. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 45 minutes ago, jetsons said: What JD offers is good by me. Me too I'm no GM and don't like playing like one.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, jetsons said: What JD offers is good by me. Sue Kalil and get that money back and give it to Moses! ? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted June 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Maynard13 said: Sue Kalil and get that money back and give it to Moses! ? If Jets sued players for sucking they’d spend more time in court than on the practice field 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, jgb said: If Jets sued players for sucking they’d spend more time in court than on the practice field And just think how much money they'd get back. We could finally build a stadium in NYC! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Smashmouth said: 4 years 30 mil 12 guaranteed I start with an eleventh commandment 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Wang Doodle Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Sh*t I mean the guy did part the red sea. Imagine how well he can split a defense! Blank check 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 JD doesn’t give 4 year contracts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 3 years cuttable after 2 years with an annual salary between $7-10m. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted June 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2021 Quote Moses... What would you Offer ? Money. Maybe Hookers. But probably just Money. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, Warfish said: Money. Maybe Hookers. But probably just Money. Considering he was playing under Dan Snyder's watch, hookers are probably a baseline expectation for him anyways, along with the money. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncjetman Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 i got pretty pumped last week when espn reporters tweeted we were close to a deal - i guess it was his agents fake news to try and gin up the market from other suitors - if we were really close it would be a done by now - not sure it will happenSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, GreenFish said: 3 years cuttable after 2 years with an annual salary between $7-10m. I think he will not come to the Jets for a deal that can cut him after 2 years. He will want a 4 year deal, with the 4th year at the Jets option. I say $32 Million dollar 4 year deal with $20M guaranteed. 8 Million per year. If the Jets cut him after year 2, then the Jets owe him $4 M in dead money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Alka said: I think he will not come to the Jets for a deal that can cut him after 2 years. He will want a 4 year deal, with the 4th year at the Jets option. I say $32 Million dollar 4 year deal with $20M guaranteed. 8 Million per year. If the Jets cut him after year 2, then the Jets owe him $4 M in dead money. It sounded like only 2 teams were really in on Moses: The Jets and Bears. Do you think Chicago is willing to offer him a 4-year deal? If they are not, then a 3-year deal is the most that is available to him, no? Even if the Bears CAN offer Moses a 4-year deal, they only have $5M in cap space currently. I just don't see Moses having many options than taking the max deal the Jets can offer, or just waiting until some other team's RT gets hurt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 49 minutes ago, ncjetman said: i got pretty pumped last week when espn reporters tweeted we were close to a deal - i guess it was his agents fake news to try and gin up the market from other suitors - if we were really close it would be a done by now - not sure it will happen Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app With you. I suspect we do not land him. But I am not sure we are done making moves at OL. I can still see a first rounder next year on OL next year as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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choon328 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 3 yrs $27 million, $6 million Signing bonus, $18 million fully guaranteed 2021: $5 million base (fully guaranteed), $2 million pro rated bonus, $7 million cap hit 2022: $7 million base (fully guaranteed), $2 million pro rated bonus, $9 million cap hit 2023 $9 million base (none guaranteed), $2 million pro rated bonus, $11 million cap hit, $9 million in savings if released. JD has been very strategic in his contract structures to not go passed 2 years without an easy out but if they want Moses to sign they'll give him significant guarantees the first 2 years with an out after that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: It sounded like only 2 teams were really in on Moses: The Jets and Bears. Do you think Chicago is willing to offer him a 4-year deal? If they are not, then a 3-year deal is the most that is available to him, no? Even if the Bears CAN offer Moses a 4-year deal, they only have $5M in cap space currently. I just don't see Moses having many options than taking the max deal the Jets can offer, or just waiting until some other team's RT gets hurt. I didn't realize that the Bears were the only other team interested in Moses. Unfortunately that complicates matters, and now I can understand why it is taking so long to get a deal done. JD has the leverage here, and therefore, is trying to squeeze Moses into a deal more friendly to the Jets. I do believe that the Bears would offer Moses a 4 year deal, with getting out of the deal after 3 years, but they obviously don't have the funds this year to make him a significant offer for the first year. I believe that my proposal is a good one, in that even if the Jets want to get rid of Moses after 2 years, they still only owe him $4M for the 3rd year, and nothing for year #4. Perhaps if the Jets reduced my proposal to a 4 year deal, with a $18M guarantee. 8 M in years 1 and 2, and a cap hit of $2M for year #3 if the Jets released Moses after year #2. That would make the deal more palatable to the Jets if they only have to eat $2M after year 2 if they let him go. If Moses continues to play at a high level, then the Jets certainly would want to keep him at least for the first 3 years of the deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 $0.00 We already have an elite offensive line. The problem was all darnold. Fant is more than fine at RT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, Albaniajet said: $0.00 We already have an elite offensive line. The problem was all darnold. Fant is more than fine at RT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaniajet Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Warfish said: Is a resource Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Advice... Speak to the rock, don't strike it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 7-9 million? I think he gets more than that. Probably 3 years, 30 million or so. George Fant already makes 9 million or so, and this guy is supposed to supplant him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Hey @The Gooch how did the stud treat you? is it time to take your little off yet ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 12 hours ago, ncjetman said: i got pretty pumped last week when espn reporters tweeted we were close to a deal - i guess it was his agents fake news to try and gin up the market from other suitors - if we were really close it would be a done by now - not sure it will happen 11 hours ago, johnnysd said: With you. I suspect we do not land him. But I am not sure we are done making moves at OL. I can still see a first rounder next year on OL next year as well. Douglas probably knows Moses' options are the Jets or waiting for a team whose RT gets hurt. So he's possibly/probably setting a line in the sand and waiting for Moses to blink first, while Moses and his agent gets confirmation elsewhere that that's the best he's going to get at the moment. Not too concerned about the wait. There's no real rush. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 17 hours ago, Butterfield said: 7-9 million? I think he gets more than that. Probably 3 years, 30 million or so. George Fant already makes 9 million or so, and this guy is supposed to supplant him. If they sign Moses I’d expect Fant to be offered a pay cut to stay as back up, similar to Crowder. I’d expect Moses to get a similar contract to Fants, although the shrunken cap has impacted these scenarios, with less teams able to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 19 hours ago, Warfish said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 On 6/22/2021 at 5:19 AM, Maynard13 said: And just think how much money they'd get back. We could finally build a stadium in NYC! Calvin Pryor would have his own wing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 On 6/22/2021 at 11:05 AM, choon328 said: 3 yrs $27 million, $6 million Signing bonus, $18 million fully guaranteed 2021: $5 million base (fully guaranteed), $2 million pro rated bonus, $7 million cap hit 2022: $7 million base (fully guaranteed), $2 million pro rated bonus, $9 million cap hit 2023 $9 million base (none guaranteed), $2 million pro rated bonus, $11 million cap hit, $9 million in savings if released. JD has been very strategic in his contract structures to not go passed 2 years without an easy out but if they want Moses to sign they'll give him significant guarantees the first 2 years with an out after that. If Douglas is going to offer anything near that, then back in May why not throw a 2023 7th rounder to Washington and get Moses for $7.75MM with $0 guaranteed? It's not much, but it's more than WFT got for cutting him. Then after or during this season, after seeing on the field that he's the good match they hope, Douglas could then either extend Moses or recoup probably a 5th round comp pick. Now he needs a multi-year contract, potentially with >1 yr guaranteed? The other scenario would've been better. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 On 6/22/2021 at 7:40 AM, The Crusher said: I start with an eleventh commandment @The Crusher Thou shall not waste leftovers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: If Douglas is going to offer anything near that, then why not throw a 2023 7th rounder to Washington and get Moses for $7.75MM with $0 guaranteed? It's not much, but it's more than WFT got for cutting him. Then after or during this season, after seeing on the field that he's the good match they hope, Douglas can either extend Moses or recoup probably a 5th round comp pick? Hmmmm Macc would be jealous. Always thinking like a GM. Nice! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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