jetstream23 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: "Welcome to Sternburger, you will take fries with that." Think about the MetLife concession stand specials! Woody Johnson: "How much are we selling hamburgers for?" Concession Manager: "$13 sir" Woody Johnson: "hmm.. change the price to $17 and slap a Stern-burger label on 'em!" Concession Manager: "That's GENIUS sir!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Alka said: Is that why he was completely invisible for the first half of last season? No that was magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, Facts said: So… JD is a genius for trading a guy that was going to be cut. No. JD was smart, not a genius, to get a DE they knew was going to be cut because he wasn’t NEEDED on the Texans. Jets NEEDED a DE due to injury and depth. SO……instead of waiting for Shaq to be cut, have 31 other teams bid for his services, and Shaq possibly choosing to sign elsewhere of HIS choosing at HIS price, JD traded en expendable pick to FILL A NEED for his new CS defensive scheme. Vikes did the same as JD in trading for Herndon, JD was smart to capitalize on the Vikes’ need at TE and flipped him when most of us here thought Herndon would be cut or waste a roster spot Quote And also a genius for trades for a guy that was going to be cut? Errr, ok. and your counter point in your own post is asinine because you repeat the same drivel. Your post clearly demonstrates your inability to understand the difference between acquiring a player, his salary, and contract while beating his getting to the free market as opposed to signing a player just unexpectedly released that may NOT be a need but is an upgrade over the current team incumbent. THATS WHY JD makes the $$$ as a NFL GM and you don’t. ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Facts Posted August 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, 92ShaunEllis92 said: No. JD was smart, not a genius, to get a DE they knew was going to be cut because he wasn’t NEEDED on the Texans. Jets NEEDED a DE due to injury and depth. SO……instead of waiting for Shaq to be cut, have 31 other teams bid for his services, and Shaq possibly choosing to sign elsewhere of HIS choosing at HIS price, JD traded en expendable pick to FILL A NEED for his new CS defensive scheme. and your counter point in your own post is asinine because you repeat the same drivel. Your post clearly demonstrates your inability to understand the difference between acquiring a player, his salary, and contract while beating his getting to the free market as opposed to signing a player just unexpectedly released that may NOT be a need but is an upgrade over the current team incumbent. THATS WHY JD makes the $$$ as a NFL GM and you don’t. ? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hmhertz Posted August 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2021 Sign Jacob Hollister a better player than Herndon, Wesco or Brown 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jamesr Posted August 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, 92ShaunEllis92 said: No. JD was smart, not a genius, to get a DE they knew was going to be cut because he wasn’t NEEDED on the Texans. Jets NEEDED a DE due to injury and depth. SO……instead of waiting for Shaq to be cut, have 31 other teams bid for his services, and Shaq possibly choosing to sign elsewhere of HIS choosing at HIS price, JD traded en expendable pick to FILL A NEED for his new CS defensive scheme. Vikes did the same as JD in trading for Herndon, JD was smart to capitalize on the Vikes’ need at TE and flipped him when most of us here thought Herndon would be cut or waste a roster spot and your counter point in your own post is asinine because you repeat the same drivel. Your post clearly demonstrates your inability to understand the difference between acquiring a player, his salary, and contract while beating his getting to the free market as opposed to signing a player just unexpectedly released that may NOT be a need but is an upgrade over the current team incumbent. THATS WHY JD makes the $$$ as a NFL GM and you don’t. ? It seems to be a common view that trades have to have a winner and a loser. But that doesn't have to be the case. Houston were smart to get something for a guy they were going to cut. Jets were smart to fill a position of need for a negligible price. Jets were smart to get something for a guy they were going to cut. Vikings were smart to fill a position of need for a negligible price. Win-win is a simple concept. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, jamesr said: It seems to be a common view that trades have to have a winner and a loser. But that doesn't have to be the case. Houston were smart to get something for a guy they were going to cut. Jets were smart to fill a position of need for a negligible price. Jets were smart to get something for a guy they were going to cut. Vikings were smart to fill a position of need for a negligible price. Win-win is a simple concept. I completely agree. it’s sarcastic Jagøffs crapping on JD calling him a “genius” for acquiring Shaq Lawson and flipping Herndon - both players who were “going to be cut” - that make no sense to me. Both scenarios presented the best possible outcome (acquiring an asset) under the dire circumstances without a sunk cost. No PR DE due to injury late in preseason? trade your extra 6th to solve problem. Cut a tantalizing, but underachieving, player after 3 years that takes a roster spot? Trade him to a team that needs that depth just as you did with a DE. It’s a win-win in both scenarios for JD. The Jets GMs of the past 10 years were too incompetent and not connected enough amongst league circles to pull off such savvy proper roster maintenance/replenishment. my 2¢ and 3¥ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, jamesr said: It seems to be a common view that trades have to have a winner and a loser. But that doesn't have to be the case. Houston were smart to get something for a guy they were going to cut. Jets were smart to fill a position of need for a negligible price. Jets were smart to get something for a guy they were going to cut. Vikings were smart to fill a position of need for a negligible price. Win-win is a simple concept. Added to the fact that another team could have easily offered the same 6th round or even a 7th round pick for Lawson. If we waited for him to be cut, perhaps he is not cut and another team gets him for a 7th round pick. How smart would JD look then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayton163v Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Bungaman said: Is there any kind of time deadline for filling up the practice squad? I was wondering how fast we would see guys like Yaboah stashed there vs. guys JD might pick up from other cuts around the league. Here you go @Bungaman. The short answer is teams have 24 hours to make waiver claims. At 4:00 pm tomorrow, teams can start to sign players who have cleared waivers to fill out their 16 man practice squad. I was harsh in my final cuts and want the Jets to sift the final cut pile with enthusiasm. But I also want to see many of our cut players added to the practice squad. Especially Josh Johnson, Yeboah, Hamelcar Rashid, David Moore and the Smiths. Anyway, this is a good link I was reading to bone up on the rules. Chapter, line and verse. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-roster-cuts-2021-deadline-rules/t4agmpiuyveo11wc540pj2knw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copernicus Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, hmhertz said: Sign Jacob Hollister a better player than Herndon, Wesco or Brown Impressive. Wonder if our TEs are entirely different minus Kroft come game day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, nycdan said: 'Promising' he says. "Solved their TE issue", he says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Lith said: Hands of Stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted August 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Why didn't JD trade for this promising young tight end????? TE-needy team trades away TE. Reporters call that TE a promising solution. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, faba said: Unfortunately another draft pick wasted You mean yet another draft pick whiffed on by Mike Maccagnan. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TokyoJetsFan Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 42 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Think about the MetLife concession stand specials! Woody Johnson: "How much are we selling hamburgers for?" Concession Manager: "$13 sir" Woody Johnson: "hmm.. change the price to $17 and slap a Stern-burger label on 'em!" Concession Manager: "That's GENIUS sir!" They can also market it as a kosher burger by the sound of it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Lith said: Either this, or there is another move coming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 51 minutes ago, Facts said: So… JD is a genius for trading-out a guy that was going to be cut. And also a genius for trading-in for a guy that was going to be cut? Errr, ok. Would he be a genius for trading Herndon straight up for Lawson? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bungaman Posted August 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2021 Also overlooked by many is that Lawson being acquired and Herndon being flipped for a pick - rather than being signed on the open market after being cut - provides salary cap savings to the trading team, because that salary moves off the books completely, and also allows the team acquiring the player to get him at a known fixed price without having to out bit another team. 6th and 7th rounders can be obtained and traded pretty fluidly. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, GreenFish said: Underachiever. Maybe a change of scenery helps him but he hasn’t been getting it done for us. Still think our story is currently on another team. Or in the 2022 draft, I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Maynard13 said: So how many picks do we have to send to Vikings? "I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he didn't have that kind of dough. But he eventually scraped it up." - Bob Uecker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 51 minutes ago, Facts said: Checkmate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Wrong thread ffs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Facts said: He also traded for a guy that was going to be cut (Shaq). So it all evens out. Well saying hes getting cut just to say it really doesnt work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, Jet Nut said: Well saying hes getting cut just to say it really doesnt work It was pretty widely reported. I guess you can play the “yeah but you can’t guarantee he’d have been cut” game if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Rolloffjet said: Crazy how fast Herndon has fallen. Great rookie season with a lot of promise. Then Suspend then hurt then Develop stone hands.sh¡t I remember when gase first got here he was saying he was a unicorn of a te. I guess he fuçken jinxed him. O well onto the next great te of the jets wait I can’t remember the last good te. Nevermind "Great" rookie season? Ehhh..... 15 other TEs finished with more yardage that year. 11 other TEs had a better catch rate. Only 4 TDs. I get that Darnold was throwing him the ball but I wouldn't go throwing the word "great" around with anything Herndon did that season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaJet Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, joewilly12 said: All gone. Now if we can just get rid of the uniforms too, we will be all set. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Facts said: He also traded for a guy that was going to be cut (Shaq). So it all evens out. How do you figure? If Shaq was cut and someone else wanted him too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Jet Posted August 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2021 Douglas got a 4th round pick for him lmao How did we even get a phone call let alone a 4th?!!! 4 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scoop24 Posted August 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2021 Jd got a 4th for herndon. Man really be fleecing people in trades 3 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 we got a 4th AND a 6th??! Wow lol 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Facts Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 22 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said: Would he be a genius for trading Herndon straight up for Lawson? I’d probably cut both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
British Jet Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Joe Douglas is a ******* wizard. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Jet Posted August 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Rhg1084 said: we got a 4th AND a 6th??! Wow lol We get the 4th. They get the 6th + Herndon. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Douglas got a 4th round pick for him lmao How did we even get a phone call let alone a 4th?!!! Ok now THAT truly is a good deal by JD. The Vikings GM is high giving up a 4th for Herndon lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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