kmnj Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Can you please provide your definition of "franchise qb?" a qb that is a very good or great player that the team can build their offense and their "franchise" around for a 5-8 year window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 32 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: I see we're getting an early start on the excuses if Zach sucks in the last game before the long offseason. Also, I haven't seen discussion of the likelihood we'll see Bills backups for half the game. They're just playing for seeding and I doubt they have that strong of a feeling on who they play. Looks like someone will be sitting on their couch Sunday, rooting for the rookie QB of the Jets to fail, so he can gleefully proclaim "I told you so" on Monday morning. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSJF Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, mrcoops said: Jets receiving crew of Jeff Smith, Denzel Mims and DJ Montgomery at WR, with Kenny Yeboah and some guy we just signed off the street at TE. The Bills aren't going to know what hit them. Yes and the STATZ people will say, Zach doesn’t need weaponz, why can’t he throw for 300 yards.. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSJF Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 44 minutes ago, Trotter said: so let's play out the SOJ angle to this game. Jets win, Zach throws for over 300 yards and 75% completion percentage, Denzel has 100+ yards and two td's. Will it happen - probably not - will it surprise me if it did - honestly, not really. I do think Zach plays well though to close out the season and continue his growth. To get 300 yards, do you need a receiver who could turn a 10 yard catch into a 30 yard catch… Who is there for that, if we’re lucky the guys who catch the ball, and I mean not drop, will get tackled where they stand, and in no way they can restrict down the field for a 40 yard gain… People make fun of the weapons, but with a weapon you get the gaudy stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 We've been playing meaningless games since Columbus Day. It would never happen in a million years but if they actually sat Zach out of fear that would be the beginning of the end of JD, Saleh, and Zippys career. He needs to go out there and take his horse whipping like a man. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I would play everyone who is active. That includes QB, but I would activate White - let him play in the 1st or 2nd half - give him a chance to play well with Buffalo. I would throw to Mims and anyone else. The season is over, and while Zack still needs to progress, we need to know what we have going into the offseason - IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, kmnj said: a qb that is a very good or great player that the team can build their offense and their "franchise" around for a 5-8 year window I can agree with that. Based on that, I see no reason to sit Wilson. He has not proven that he is a very good or great player, let alone that the team should build their offense or franchise around him. Playing well this week could help show that he is. Sitting on his ass can do nothing but let him collect a check and not hurt his delicate mind or body. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Berrios should not play unless he is absolutely ready to go. There is no benefit to having him play, but it can be detrimental. Get the B team in there, including Mike White. Zach has nothing left to prove for this year. And also there are no starters playing for Zach to get game reps with. Sit him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, More Cowbell said: As The Football Spins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, bostonmajet said: I would play everyone who is active. That includes QB, but I would activate White - let him play in the 1st or 2nd half - give him a chance to play well with Buffalo. I would throw to Mims and anyone else. The season is over, and while Zack still needs to progress, we need to know what we have going into the offseason - IMO. How is Zach going to progress with a bunch of guys he won't be going into the future with? Isn't the risk of injury or something crazy happening greater than the benefit of putting him out there with random people he doesn't need to get reps with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pac said: We've been playing meaningless games since Columbus Day. It would never happen in a million years but if they actually sat Zach out of fear that would be the beginning of the end of JD, Saleh, and Zippys career. He needs to go out there and take his horse whipping like a man. You sound like a Bill Parcels type guy. I love Parcels. But I don't know that old-school-tough-as-nails attitude is going to help ZW be better. He is already mentally tough. And he's already a team-first guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Just now, 65 Toss Power Trap said: You sound like a Bill Parcels type guy. I love Parcels. But I don't know that old-school-tough-as-nails attitude is going to help ZW be better. He is already mentally tough. And he's already a team-first guy. Is this a troll account? There is no universe where Saleh says "I know Trevor Lawrence beat these Bills but we've decided to sit Zachy because he might get a booboo". Everyone would get fired. Rightfully so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 52 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: I see we're getting an early start on the excuses if Zach sucks in the last game before the long offseason. Oh, Hi Bart Scott. Didn't know this was your username on this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, kmnj said: because he is stupid mark my words this wont end well for the jets In what way, specifically? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Just now, Pac said: Is this a troll account? There is no universe where Saleh says "I know Trevor Lawrence beat these Bills but we've decided to sit Zachy because he might get a booboo". Everyone would get fired. Rightfully so. Are you a troll? Has nothing to do with a boo boo. It is not unreasonable to consider the risk vs. benefits of playing ZW. And if he wasn't to play, there's no need to trash him or the coaches. ZW has proved what he needs to this year. Most all of his first and second team playmakers are out. He might learn nothing from this game, the reps with players that aren't going to be dominant on the team in the future won't do anything for him. In the end, he'll probably play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said: How is Zach going to progress with a bunch of guys he won't be going into the future with? Isn't the risk of injury or something crazy happening greater than the benefit of putting him out there with random people he doesn't need to get reps with? Not worried about Zack getting hurt - it is time to see if White is a real backup and some of the other players are worth keeping. And, with Moore and Berrios out - that is exactly what is going to happen, Zack is going to go out there a play with guys who won't be active in the future - unless they show something; they can't show something if they don't get out there. If you are worried about Zack, let White play the whole game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: I see we're getting an early start on the excuses if Zach sucks in the last game before the long offseason. Also, I haven't seen discussion of the likelihood we'll see Bills backups for half the game. They're just playing for seeding and I doubt they have that strong of a feeling on who they play. Pretty much all of the posts have been about him getting injured. For some reason. So where’s the excuse making that some of you see in advance of the game? And are you planting an ex use if he plays well by claiming the Bills are going to sit starters at the half? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Mims ready to go for Sunday: 0 catches, 1 drop, 2 penalties. Just put him in the damn huddle and tell him to "go for the Bomb MFer" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, LSJF said: To get 300 yards, do you need a receiver who could turn a 10 yard catch into a 30 yard catch… Who is there for that, if we’re lucky the guys who catch the ball, and I mean not drop, will get tackled where they stand, and in no way they can restrict down the field for a 40 yard gain… People make fun of the weapons, but with a weapon you get the gaudy stats Hence the Same Ole Jet angle. You described reality. SOJ world is a bizarre world where reality does not exist but the unexpected rears it's head every once in awhile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: Just put him in the damn huddle and tell him to "go for the Bomb MFer" runs out of bounds, back in and catches the game winner with no time left. Flagged for going oob and being the first person to touch the ball. Bills win the division. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said: How is Zach going to progress with a bunch of guys he won't be going into the future with? Isn't the risk of injury or something crazy happening greater than the benefit of putting him out there with random people he doesn't need to get reps with? Who the **** is actually missing? From what I understand Crowder will be back. Crowder and Cole were 2 of the 3 starting WR. Coleman is probably ahead of Carter on the depth chart, even if Carter is the preferred back. They are missing the LT and back up slot WR. Guess they should just all skip the trip. I mean the roads are icy, the bus ride will be perilous. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, Warfish said: In what way, specifically? specifically the jets are going to get destroyed out there-Wilson will be out there surrounded by scrubs and some guys he is not used to playing with and I believe this puts him at greater risk to get hurt. what will he learn or gain from being out there losing by 20+ and getting blasted out there by a solid defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Mims ready to go for Sunday: 0 catches, 1 drop, 2 penalties. I think it's a "catch 22" with Mims. I would have Zach throw him 100 passes on Sunday, and hopefully he will catch 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 Just now, Alka said: I think it's a "catch 22" with Mims. I would have Zach throw him 100 passes on Sunday, and hopefully he will catch 22. turn off your computer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Mogglez said: I would, honestly, play all back ups on Sunday. No more injuries, my goodness. What backups? The backups are the starters! lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Warfish said: Sometimes the NFL is a tough place. Can't treat your supposed Franchise QB like a china doll. A healthy scratch would be possibly the worst thing for Wilson as a supposed team leader. Wilson needs to put his jock strap on and play. That is how respect is earned in the NFL, not by babying him. If you're that afraid he'll poop the bed or get hurt, well...... Seriously. Wilson is coming off his best game as a pro and people want to sit him down? Come on now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Denzel's time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bronx said: Denzel's time! It was Denzel's time a while ago, and he blew it in incredible fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Pac said: We've been playing meaningless games since Columbus Day. It would never happen in a million years but if they actually sat Zach out of fear that would be the beginning of the end of JD, Saleh, and Zippys career. He needs to go out there and take his horse whipping like a man. *pony 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Seriously. Wilson is coming off his best game as a pro and people want to sit him down? Come on now. I’m not sure you’re aware, but a QB having a rough time against the Bills is certifiable proof that the QB has been exposed and should never start another game in the NFL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Crusher said: *pony 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 40 minutes ago, kmnj said: specifically the jets are going to get destroyed out there-Wilson will be out there surrounded by scrubs and some guys he is not used to playing with and I believe this puts him at greater risk to get hurt. what will he learn or gain from being out there losing by 20+ and getting blasted out there by a solid defense? If you want a QB you have to bench because he will be facing "a solid defense" I can't help you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: If you want a QB you have to bench because he will be facing "a solid defense" I can't help you. How can you judge a franchise quarterback if he’s facing a solid defense without Braxton Berrios? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: How can you judge a franchise quarterback if he’s facing a solid defense without Braxton Berrios? What about the risk of injury? He will be missing as many as 3 opening day starters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: How can you judge a franchise quarterback if he’s facing a solid defense without Braxton Berrios? @BornJetsFan1983 dreams of the day when Braxton Berrios being out isn't bad news. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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