Reasonable Jets Fan Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, GangGreened said: If you don’t want to see both sides of the coin, don’t join a Jets message board then. Those of you signing into an internet message board expecting every post to be praise and roses are delusional. If there was both sides of the coin I wouldn't have posted. 1 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: I for one am thrilled. We have a solid core of players that appear to be able to stay in any game. I am wearing my Jets gear proudly here in the south. But to ignore Zach's very strong weakness is also foolish. He was running for his life but at times he appeared to be playing street football with happy feet. First time in a long time the jets have gave us something to feel good about I’m not really worrying about when the bad qb play will catch up to the jets, there winning and there winning with Wilson playing the way he plays, that works until it doesn’t, when it doesn’t I’ll start to worry 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 58 minutes ago, Reasonable Jets Fan said: The board slobbered over the fact Aaron Rodgers is on the downside of his career. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 45 minutes ago, neckdemon said: i think the problem is zero improvement from zach and losing our 2 best players on offense Zack is improving by finding ways to lead and win. And he is doing that as well as any QB out there right now. After injuries to the 3 best starters on O he said in the huddle take it as an opportunity and grow a pair(of b@lls) so he is running the team well. Fans sometimes don’t understand how tough it is to even get to 16 points and win a game in Denver against a D that good. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Reasonable Jets Fan said: Enjoy the ******* ride and stop being bitches... A whole sermon ?? We’ve always had instances of emotional rollercoasters during a game but the crying is at an all time high this year. I don’t get it. After every misstep the game is over according to some of these whiners. It’s not just here but in many of the Jets spaces on the interwebz.... I don’t know if Zach is a franchise QB. I don’t know where this season will take us.....just enjoy the freaking ride geez! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 There’s just a lot more really bad posters. Like a lot. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, Reasonable Jets Fan said: If there was both sides of the coin I wouldn't have posted. LOL. Since the game ended I actually think I've made more positive posts about the Jets than you have. You seem much more interest in sticking it to other Jets fans than actually discussing the game. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biggs Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, UnknownJetFan said: Zack is improving by finding ways to lead and win. And he is doing that as well as any QB out there right now. After injuries to the 3 best starters on O he said in the huddle take it as an opportunity and grow a pair(of b@lls) so he is running the team well. Fans sometimes don’t understand how tough it is to even get to 16 points and win a game in Denver against a D that good. Zach has been mostly good when needed and hasn't screwed things up when not needed. Yesterday he took a step back. Yes he was under a lot of pressure but there were a few times in the second half that he missed open recievers because he didn't set his feet when he could have. He really looked freaked out by the pressure. I get it, he was under a lot of pressure. That doesn't get him off the hook on plays he can set his feet and is unwilling to do it. I give him huge props for not putting the ball on the turf or throwing a pick. In a tight game against a good d he has to be willing to set his feet when he can and just deliver the ball. That was completely missing yesterday. The coaching staff also has to figure out the protection going forward. Without Hall where going to need to pass more to change field position. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IndianaJet Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 I’m not sure how old you are, but one of the things I’ve learned (and come to accept) in my 50 years on this planet, is that a good 70 -75% of people are miserable, insufferable, idiotic, twats. So it’s not anything unusual. #thanoswasright 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 It's not easy being green. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 People starting threads about how much they hate the forum and its posters is one reason 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post greenwichjetfan Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Reasonable Jets Fan said: Enjoy the ******* ride and stop being bitches... PVO... ? We might have just lost the two best players on the entire team for significant portions of the season, and Zach once again proved for the 17th straight start that he is not a good QB - and all you can think about is starting a thread trashing other Jets fans? You could have made this post in any of the 4 or 5 other threads created by people like you and dedicated to Jets fans who are concerned that the win streak is a simply a mirage. 2 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biggs Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, greenwichjetfan said: We might have just lost the two best players on the entire team for significant portions of the season, and Zach once again proved for the 17th straight start that he is not a good QB - and all you can think about is starting a thread trashing other Jets fans? You could have made this post in any of the 4 or 5 other threads created by people like you and dedicated to Jets fans who are concerned that the win streak is a simply a mirage. In this NFL winning is not a mirage. The Giants are 6 and 1 and the Jets are 5 and 2 for a reason. Enough good players are making plays in big spots. The league isn't 15 teams that resemble the 85 Bears. It's a small handful of good teams and handful of bad teams and mostly a pile of flawed teams where matchups, coaching and a play or two is the difference between winning and lossing. Lossing AVT and Hall was a dissaster. It's going to take a huge effort to overcome that. It changes are ability to match up in every single game going forward. Just like the Jets having Hall and the Giants having a healthy Barkley has changed ever matchup in every game in the rear view mirror. Were going to find out a lot more about Zach, the coaching staff and our WR's going forward. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Reasonable Jets Fan said: Yeah because it's so great after their 4th win in a row to read a board of doomers... Get the **** out... You are among the worst here with you inserting Zach hatred into every thread Boy, we really needed a thread on this. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, More Cowbell said: Boy, we really needed a thread on this. Let him roll. The irony of someone using PVO to blast the board with vitriol is too delicious. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hawk Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 It is so insufferable here not to be able to be so insufferable because some hold reasonable accountability. Is it OK to be excited with a team that is completely transformed from a bottom tier talent team to one that can actually absorb some injuries and still have above average talent in their depth, all in one or two years? Is it OK to be excited that the team is exceeding all expectations with a record of 5-2 and now is expected to win? Is it exciting to see our newest talent(s) being feared in Garrett Wilson / Breece Hall (albeit now injured) / Sauce Gardner AND...OR...BUT....BESIDES.... HOW GOD AWFUL THE QUARTERBACK PLAY HAS BEEN, AND WONDER WHAT THIS TEAM MENTIONED ABOVE COULD BE WITH EVEN AVERAGE QUARTERBACK PLAY. *This week's excuse is understood, it was windy. Glad we have a first hand report.* 5 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Reasonable Jets Fan said: After every win or loss? News flash the Jets are 5-2...with the second best record in the AFC only a half a game behind Bills for the best record. Everyone in here sounds like the national broadcast making excuses for why the won. The board cried when they lost Becton and said he was a bum. Then the board gave up when Zach Wilson went down... Some vowing to not watch the rest of the reason @Mogglez Everyone sobbed about D Brown and how the Jets would never see him again. Then the board whined after the Ravens game... They want ulbrich fired and said he was the worst coach ever and Lafluer needed to take over coaching. The board laughed at the improbable comeback in Cleveland, saying it was a lucky fluke. The board gave up after the Bengals game... Saying they would not win another game. After a great come back in Pittsburgh everyone complained that zach only played well for 1 quarter. The board gave up again after they lost max mitchell. The board cried that the Miami win was close until the 4th quarter and they were lucky to get their 3rd string qb... The board slobbered over the fact Aaron Rodgers is on the downside of his career. The board was in awe over Moore wanted out and blamed everyone but the Diva wide receiver. Now they beat one of the best defenses in the NFL that just got back their star Safety and yet more crying... Yes it sucks they lost Hall but Mc is very good and don't sleep on Bam Knight. Yes it sucks if the best OL that this board called a waste of draft capital to spend that much on a guard... Yes it sucks that Davis went out and couldn't get back in the game... But despite it all they still won... When has a Jets team in the past 2 decades been this resilient... Sure it's going to be a huge challenge to beat NE but at least they are home. Who knows how they win this next game... But I still feel better about 5-2.no matter how they got there. I understand frustration and how it keeps working against the Jets but who cares... Enjoy the ******* ride and stop being bitches... PVO... ? Championship post. I blame the age of fantasy sports. If all players don't put up good fantasy stats, the player sucks no matter what. Then there is the hyper cynical faction, they are the worst. Very few live in reality! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, hawk said: It is so insufferable here not to be able to so insufferable because some hold reasonable accountability. Is it OK to be excited with a team that is completely transformed from a bottom tier talent team to one that can actually absorb some injuries and still have above average talent intheir depth, all in one or two years? Is it OK to be excited that the team is exceeding all expectations with a record of 5-2 and now is expected to win? Is it exciting to see our newest talent(s) being feared in Garrett Wilson / Breece Hall (albeit now injured) / Sauce Gardner AND...OR...BUT....BESIDES.... It's okay for now but don't take it to far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, JetsRay said: Championship post. I blame the age of fantasy sports. If all players don't put up good fantasy stats, the player sucks no matter what. Then there is the hyper cynical faction, they are the worst. Very few live in reality! Need to add that to the QB excuse Bingo and Twister home versions... "Fantasy football sets unrealistic expectations." Thank you, JetsRay, thank you. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, jgb said: Let him roll. The irony of someone using PVO to blast the board with vitriol is too delicious. I'm reading the forst post and I am like wtf? If anything the board has been mostly positive. Threads about Zach sucking were actually locked multiple times yesterday. I didn't even see the game yet but I'm glad we won. I'll watch it later but from what I gleaned, Zach had a pretty Zach like performance, and Denver sucked like I thought they would. I mean who the Hell was crying over Max Mitchell except maybe Jif. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post southparkcpa Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: We might have just lost the two best players on the entire team for significant portions of the season, and Zach once again proved for the 17th straight start that he is not a good QB - and all you can think about is starting a thread trashing other Jets fans? You could have made this post in any of the 4 or 5 other threads created by people like you and dedicated to Jets fans who are concerned that the win streak is a simply a mirage. Zach is just struggling but God forbid fans use a discussion board to discuss it. I dont think any of us saw the team coming together like this, in spite of poor QB play, we hang. It's all I ask. Compete, show up. They are, so there is that. Doesn't distract from very obvious poor QB play. 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, More Cowbell said: I'm reading the forst post and I am like wtf? If anything the board has been mostly positive. Threads about Zach sucking were actually locked multiple times yesterday. I didn't even see the game yet but I'm glad we won. I'll watch it later but from what I gleaned, Zach had a pretty Zach like performance, and Denver sucked like I thought they would. I mean who the Hell was crying over Max Mitchell except maybe Jif. There are two types of Jets fans... those that criticize the team and those that criticize those that criticize the team. Has always been this way and I'm sure it always will. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Biggs said: It's okay for now but don't take it to far. Oh, so can I have an example of too far. Is there a rule section that can be addressed? A manual? From what I can tell it's don't say anything that one should be accountable. Even if it is the engine that pulls the train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, JetsRay said: Championship post. I blame the age of fantasy sports. If all players don't put up good fantasy stats, the player sucks no matter what. Then there is the hyper cynical faction, they are the worst. Very few live in reality! Don't worry about this. Nobody has any Jet players in their starting lineup. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, JetsRay said: Championship post. I blame the age of fantasy sports. If all players don't put up good fantasy stats, the player sucks no matter what. Then there is the hyper cynical faction, they are the worst. Very few live in reality! I blame the positive vibe at all cost mentality. Very few realize walking across the street without looking both ways is dangerous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, hawk said: Oh, so can I have an example of too far. Is there a rule section that can be addressed? A manual? From what I can tell it's don't say anything that one should be accountable. Even if it is the engine that pulls the train. It's a secret to keep the masses slighly more paranoid than they should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Reasonable Jets Fan said: After every win or loss? News flash the Jets are 5-2. Maybe you just don’t like this community, or your fellow fans. First, you keep saying ‘The Board said…’ as if we were some hive mind. We’re not. Most folks didn’t say what you claim ‘The Board’ said. Second, do you honestly think anyone here is mad we won yesterday, or mad we’re 5-2? Or do you think they’re mad/worried/concerned our QB is basically the lowest producing guy in the NFL? Or that we look like we lost our Offensive MVP in Hall. Or that we’re on O-lineman #23 and AVT is now hurt? Are you happy about all these things? If not, are you being insufferable? Or are we just insufferable for talking about it? 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: Maybe you just don’t like this community, or your fellow fans. First, you keep saying ‘The Board said…’ as if we were some hive mind. We’re not. Most folks didn’t say what you claim ‘The Board’ said. Second, do you honestly think anyone here is mad we won yesterday, or mad we’re 5-2? Or do you think they’re mad/worried/concerned our QB is basically the lowest producing guy in the NFL? Or that we look like we lost our Offensive MVP in Hall. Or that we’re on O-lineman #23 and AVT is now hurt? Are you happy about all these things? If not, are you being insufferable? Or are we just insufferable for talking about it? "I'm all for free expressions of opinions... oh, well, not those opinions." 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Warfish said: Maybe you just don’t like this community, or your fellow fans. First, you keep saying ‘The Board said…’ as if we were some hive mind. We’re not. Most folks didn’t say what you claim ‘The Board’ said. Second, do you honestly think anyone here is mad we won yesterday, or mad we’re 5-2? Or do you think they’re mad/worried/concerned our QB is basically the lowest producing guy in the NFL? Or that we look like we lost our Offensive MVP in Hall. Or that we’re on O-lineman #23 and AVT is now hurt? Are you happy about all these things? If not, are you being insufferable? Or are we just insufferable for talking about it? Personally yesterdays game was close to what I expected before losing AVT,Hall and Davis. Hard fought battle and Zach looking bad. Zach looked worse than I thought, but you are right, those injuries have just knocked the wind out for of my sails. Without those three next week we are dead in the water hosting the Pats next week. Sucks, really would have liked to play them at full strength. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post More Cowbell Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Reasonable Jets Fan said: Over dramatizing and extremism is the issue. Nobody says you can't be critical... But inserting into threads of other discussions is annoying... I don't need a thread about Hall to turn into a debate on why you think Zach sucks... Bring Zach into any thread is legit. He is the QB and now he is the guy that needs to step up, not Carter. Carter is a good player, Breece is superstar in the making. Zach was the second overall pick. When your team invests like that, there are expectations. People will talk about that no matter what. And who the Hell cares about what you personally want to see and don't want to see in a thread? I doubt anyone here is posting with the thought of should I write this or not because it might annoy you. 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, More Cowbell said: Bring Zach into any thread is legit. He is the QB and now he is the guy that needs to step up, not Carter. Carter is a good player, Breece is superstar in the making. Zach was the second overall pick. When your team invests like that, there are expectations. People will talk about that no matter what. And who the Hell cares about what you personally want to see and don't want to see in a thread? I doubt anyone here is posting with the thought of should I write this or not because it might annoy you. Main Character Syndrome -- everything has a nexus to meeeeee.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: Personally yesterdays game was close to what I expected before losing AVT,Hall and Davis. Hard fought battle and Zach looking bad. Zach looked worse than I thought, but you are right, those injuries have just knocked the wind out for of my sails. Without those three next week we are dead in the water hosting the Pats next week. Sucks, really would have liked to play them at full strength. Our Defense is intact. It's going to be a really low scoring game. I be the over/under is going to be about 35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Reasonable Jets Fan said: After every win or loss? News flash the Jets are 5-2...with the second best record in the AFC only a half a game behind Bills for the best record. Everyone in here sounds like the national broadcast making excuses for why the won. The board cried when they lost Becton and said he was a bum. Then the board gave up when Zach Wilson went down... Some vowing to not watch the rest of the reason @Mogglez Everyone sobbed about D Brown and how the Jets would never see him again. Then the board whined after the Ravens game... They want ulbrich fired and said he was the worst coach ever and Lafluer needed to take over coaching. The board laughed at the improbable comeback in Cleveland, saying it was a lucky fluke. The board gave up after the Bengals game... Saying they would not win another game. After a great come back in Pittsburgh everyone complained that zach only played well for 1 quarter. The board gave up again after they lost max mitchell. The board cried that the Miami win was close until the 4th quarter and they were lucky to get their 3rd string qb... The board slobbered over the fact Aaron Rodgers is on the downside of his career. The board was in awe over Moore wanted out and blamed everyone but the Diva wide receiver. Now they beat one of the best defenses in the NFL that just got back their star Safety and yet more crying... Yes it sucks they lost Hall but Mc is very good and don't sleep on Bam Knight. Yes it sucks if the best OL that this board called a waste of draft capital to spend that much on a guard... Yes it sucks that Davis went out and couldn't get back in the game... But despite it all they still won... When has a Jets team in the past 2 decades been this resilient... Sure it's going to be a huge challenge to beat NE but at least they are home. Who knows how they win this next game... But I still feel better about 5-2.no matter how they got there. I understand frustration and how it keeps working against the Jets but who cares... Enjoy the ******* ride and stop being bitches... PVO... ? it’s a tale as old as time: homer content is boring, you’re bad at it and it stimulates no one to the point that homers don’t even like talking to homers. After every win in Jets history, there was a “Yeah baby” thread that immediately scrolled off the front page in 30 seconds. By far, the two most active post-game threads on JN yesterday were the “Zach Sucks” threads, and those were driven by two dudes saying “Zach sucks!,” with another small subset saying agreeing, and—mostly—a pack of dudes complaining about the existence of the very threads that they, themselves, are blowing up. There are a ton of positive Jets storylines to talk and post about, but I never, ever see the people who complain about the tone of the board discussing those things. There are, at any one time, twenty “journalists” and writers whose job it is to cover the Jets, every day. They’ve been doing it forever. The names change, the faces change—all told, there’ve probably been around 100 different career journalists in my lifetime who made a living covering the Jets. In that time, you know was, by FAR, the most famous, the most discussed, and the most successful of those 100 writers? Manish Mehta. And Mehta was a legitimate psychopath! But Jets fans loved it! Couldn’t stop talking about him, RTing him, copy/pasting every one of his articles, linking him, linking his tweets, linking to tweets responding to his tweets…on and on. Why do we think that is? You don’t follow the dog-ass Jets because you like positive storylines. You don’t really care if people are nice to the Jets, or treat them fairly. Just admit that you *like* the negativity, you’re stimulated by it, it challenges you and it’s fun to be upset about. It’s fine. It’s human nature. It’s why bug zappers are so effective. Be the bug. It’s fine. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post genot Posted October 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, More Cowbell said: Bring Zach into any thread is legit. He is the QB and now he is the guy that needs to step up, not Carter. Carter is a good player, Breece is superstar in the making. Zach was the second overall pick. When your team invests like that, there are expectations. People will talk about that no matter what. And who the Hell cares about what you personally want to see and don't want to see in a thread? I doubt anyone here is posting with the thought of should I write this or not because it might annoy you. Good post Cowbell. If Wilson was slightly approaching the QB, we drafted him to be, the loss of Hall wouldn't be so devastating. The reason it is, whether some people want to admit it or not, is Wilson isn't coming close to what we expected of him. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 I TOO remember when I was first sentenced to visit this site and read posts I didn't want to read ..... wait a minute, it's a message board. If you find it insufferable, then perhaps take a break for a while. I did and eventually I came back. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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