Hex Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Green Ghost said: I love the guys here who are trying to convince themselves we’re better off with Hackett than MLF. News Flash… we didn’t fire LaFleur. He got out of Dodge as soon as he could. Yea, probably because he didn't like the prospect of having 'senior assistants' to help him out. Plus, it's not like MLF is going to be doing half of what he was here when he's in LA. Time will tell whether or not Hackett is worse or better than MLF, but the fact that he has actual OC experience on 3 different teams mean he's going to have the advantage over MLF until he proves otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Barkus said: Mcvay calls the plays and it is his offense. MLF will be a glorified coffee boy. McVay’s Dowell Loggains 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hex said: Yea, probably because he didn't like the prospect of having 'senior assistants' to help him out. Plus, it's not like MLF is going to be doing half of what he was here when he's in LA. Time will tell whether or not Hackett is worse or better than MLF, but the fact that he has actual OC experience on 3 different teams mean he's going to have the advantage over MLF until he proves otherwise. 1. Whether you want to see and/or admit it, going to LA was a smart move by LaFleur 2. The assumption in your second paragraph has absolutely no basis in fact, despite your use of the word. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 hours ago, DireJet said: Oof. Watch … the Rams are going to sign Mike White next. Should be great for the mental health of this fanbase to watch him blossom into Kurt Warner II. LOL! Oh no not MFW , how will Jets fans ever live w/o him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Saleh deserved to be fired more than LaFleur. Bobby threw his “friend” under the bus to (temporarily) save his own skin and appease his GM. Look at the attempts 46.5 , that means the Jets were losing and needed to play catch up. When Zach was playing the team was winning close games and running the ball. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Says a lot about how the league seen our offensive struggles that he gets such a great job right away. They know Wilson was irredeemable. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Irish Jet said: Says a lot about how the league seen our offensive struggles that he gets such a great job right away. They know Wilson was irredeemable. Did you see the Rams last season? Doesn't look like it's going to get any better anytime soon. Rams are paying the price for going all in for the 2021 season. Looks like they're entering purgatory. They might have to tear it down after next season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Did you see the Rams last season? Doesn't look like it's going to get any better anytime soon. Rams are paying the price for going all in for the 2021 season. Looks like they're entering purgatory. They might have to tear it down after next season. They went all in, got the ring. They have no draft picks, a 30 year old qb with injuries, and an aging team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 38 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: Says a lot about how the league seen our offensive struggles that he gets such a great job right away. They know Wilson was irredeemable. I don't know how great a job it is; they mortgaged their future for a Super Bowl run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 minute ago, chirorob said: They went all in, got the ring. They have no draft picks, a 30 year old qb with injuries, and an aging team. It was worth it though. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be_a_Jet Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 4 hours ago, peekskill68 said: No one ever argued MLF has a lot of talent when it comes to designing an offense. He has problems with communication and leadership, which may simply be based on lack of experience. The Jets either could have kept him and brought in some experience to guide him or let him start fresh elsewhere. It seems like too many bridges were burned with the players, so going to the Rams under McVay seems like a win-win all around. Plenty of people argued that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Green Ghost said: 1. Whether you want to see and/or admit it, going to LA was a smart move by LaFleur 2. The assumption in your second paragraph has absolutely no basis in fact, despite your use of the word. 1. I agree with that first part. It was a smart move. Doesn't mean he wasn't bad here. 2. What are you talking about? Hackett was the OC for the Buffalo Bills and Jaguars, calling plays there before moving to Green Bay. If you don't believe me, look it up. Hackett has been doing OC stuff since 2013 in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 this clown keeps getting jobs cuz of his brother LOL no playcalling, so one of his worst aspects is removed 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: He upgraded. We downgraded. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: He upgraded. We downgraded. What about MLF makes you say we downgraded? Or is it about Hackett? I'm curious, because I would tend to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, Be_a_Jet said: Plenty of people argued that And they'd be wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asymmetrical Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Good for him. For whatever his faults and communication failings were, he was stuck with the worst qb in the league. They couldn't get rid of Wilson so MLF had to go. Kind of dumb and unfair but that's life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 56 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Did you see the Rams last season? Doesn't look like it's going to get any better anytime soon. Rams are paying the price for going all in for the 2021 season. Looks like they're entering purgatory. They might have to tear it down after next season. Yeah sort of the thing our fans want us to do with AR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 4 hours ago, BCJet said: Ive been saying the same thing since day 1 and its even more clear. Option 1 - stay with the jets who have no QB without a contract extension so that every week that the offense doesnt score 20+ your job will be questioned by the media. Option 2 - Get released from the last year of your contract with the Jets, be first in line for calls/interviews for jobs one of which is in LA where you can learn from Sean McVay for a year or 2 before moving on. Not a hard call here.....good for MLF. Or get fired for being bad at your job and not being able to develop Zach, which was the single most important job bar none on the entire team. Also, maybe learn how to connect with the players - it will be easier for them to learn that way. Good riddance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 5 hours ago, FootballLove said: Jets have higher standards Lol! I almost spit out my tongue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 59 minutes ago, Warfish said: He upgraded. We downgraded. It’s that simple, and yet half this board won’t admit it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 55 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Lol! I almost spit out my tongue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Irish Jet said: Says a lot about how the league seen our offensive struggles that he gets such a great job right away. They know Wilson was irredeemable. No one thinks Zach Wilson is any good outside of Chris Simms and 20% of jets fans 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Hex said: What about MLF makes you say we downgraded? Or is it about Hackett? I'm curious, because I would tend to disagree. Lafleur is a better OC than Hackett. Give me a break about Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers calls his own plays and audibles his OC’s since McCarthy left have been figureheads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Let’s see if Mike White ends up w/the Rams 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Asymmetrical said: Good for him. For whatever his faults and communication failings were, he was stuck with the worst qb in the league. They couldn't get rid of Wilson so MLF had to go. Kind of dumb and unfair but that's life. JD can’t admit he screwed up drafting Zach Wilson. Really one of the most stupid qb evaluations ever and a historic case of groupthink gone wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 hours ago, 56mehl56 said: Look at the attempts 46.5 , that means the Jets were losing and needed to play catch up. When Zach was playing the team was winning close games and running the ball. LOL Is it that hard to ask Google: “Zach Wilson career record” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Lafleur is a better OC than Hackett. Give me a break about Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers calls his own plays and audibles his OC’s since McCarthy left have been figureheads MLF had about the worst playcalling I have ever seen, it's not really like it could get much worse. The players regressed as the season went on too. I don't know if Hackett was calling plays in Denver either, and he probably wasn't in charge of developing the offense. He was a HC. And there's no way they were paying an OC to just be a 'figurehead'. Plus, you guys all think the only job of an OC is to call plays. That isn't the case. The OC develops the players, coaches them, and runs the other coordinators in the offense. As far as I'm concerned, Hackett might have not called plays in GB but he helped the offense be dominant with Rodgers. He also called plays on the 2 teams before that, one of which was a top 10 offense with Blake Bortles as QB. Say all you want about MLF being a better OC, Hackett has a much longer career as an OC, and MLF's offense didn't break 20 points total across the last 3 games. I went to one of them personally. The playcalling sucked and the players had regressed. He needed to go, either by quitting or getting fired. Hackett have more success than MLF, possibly because of the additions of better players or just being better. But he's probably not worse. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 9 hours ago, Green Ghost said: Stupid replies are stupid. it’s exactly what happened. Saleh told you he had other opportunities, and he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Hope the Rams have a good FG kicker because that’s MLF’s gig. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Warfish said: He upgraded. We downgraded. This is absolutely the worst take yet. The Rams are an aging team on the way down with no draft picks and we replaced a one year play caller and terrible offensive mind proven by his ineptness for most of the season and specifically the last 3 games of the season, when we needed a win to make it to the playoffs and we couldn’t score one TD against terrible defenses and we replaced him with an OC that has made it to 3 conference championships including bringing Blake Bortles to a title game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 No one knows Offense like the NY Jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 11 hours ago, Beerfish said: Of course this will be the answer, sort of a preemptive excuse in case the rams offense is better than the jets. call it that if you want, but it's a fact that the job will be totally different from his responsibilities here. McVay runs the show. MLF was terrible here and the bridges were burned. He infuriated the offense. He was put in the wrong job, in the wrong place, at the wrong time. He needs much more time as an assistant, which is what he is in LA despite the "OC" title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Warfish said: He upgraded. We downgraded. LOL. Hardly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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