John Beck: “Zach Wilson needs to reinvent himself”

[Jet Blast]

1 hour ago, Dunnie said:

The exact quote was something like ...

it's hard to win the NFL, it harder to win when there are a bunch of injuries, it's especially hard when there are holes on the team.

So ... Truth





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The biggest "hole" on the team was the QB.

[Dunnie]

3 minutes ago, Jet Blast said:

The biggest "hole" on the team was the QB.

Bazinga ? ..  I'd say toss up between QB, OL, LB and post Breece RB.

Edited February 18, 2023 by Dunnie

[Be_a_Jet]

51 minutes ago, JiFields said:

No wonder why the kids has no accountability, nothing is ever his fault or responsibility. 

He’s the type of kid who thinks he hit a home run in life but he started on 3rd base. 
 

If he was any good as a QB i wouldn’t care but his lack of accountability is so evident.   He might be able to turn it around but i doubt it and he sucks to root for. 

[Saul Goodman]

Zach Wilson was competing to be the starting quarterback for BYU in August of 2020, just about 5-6 months before Douglas all but publicly announced that he was going to draft him with the 2nd overall pick. Wilson put up some stats for one year of college, against ridiculous competition.

He wasn’t a very good prospect. He wasn’t very talented. He had/has no special skills, other than he can throw a football kinda hard. So sick of him and his fans. 

[varjet]

In today’s NFL, players are more than willing to shoot their way out if in their long term interests.

Zach knows he is pretty screwed here, and that JD will not want to eat the cap hit to let him go and still be obligated to pay him.   I really don’t think that the Wilson’s want anything to do with NY anymore-he is not signing a contract here voluntarily.

The best option is to sign Carr for a decent term and just launch Zach.  If he prepares in the off season and plays well in the pre season (and does not get hurt), maybe someone trades for him.   Otherwise I can see JD launching him next preseason when the cap hit is the same.  Maybe post June 1 to spread it out.  

But yes, his proxies (Beck is another BYUer) will stick up for him and try as best they can to make Zach undesirable to keep (while not crossing the line of being troublemakers).  But they want out, now.  

[56mehl56]

1 hour ago, heymangold said:

the offense looked 1000x better when anyone not named Zach Wilson was QB.

Except for the games it didn't . 

[56mehl56]

2 hours ago, jgb said:

Here come the proxies as predicted now that BYU is too tarnished by the “me first, team never” reputation to fight his own battle.

BYU may be the biggest issue but Elmhurst was a large contributing factor.

And I'll save you the lookup , MLF went to Elmhurst, 

[dcJet]

The players know about Zach.  They see him everyday.

Zach has to be a special level of suck to be hated like that.

[Drums]

Give him some ayahuasca-- I know a guy that could help with that.

[GreenFish]

He didn't say little talent.

Assuming you are referring to him saying, it’s hard to win the team as holes. The team had holes on the OL. 

[GreenFish]

1 hour ago, Jet Blast said:

The biggest "hole" on the team was the QB.

This is true. So his statement is right. Hard to win when the team has holes. lol

I’d add OL as an issue as well. Non Zach QBs had a tough time winning as well.

[Rich Thornburgh]

1 hour ago, Saul Goodman said:

Zach Wilson was competing to be the starting quarterback for BYU in August of 2020, just about 5-6 months before Douglas all but publicly announced that he was going to draft him with the 2nd overall pick. Wilson put up some stats for one year of college, against ridiculous competition.

He wasn’t a very good prospect. He wasn’t very talented. He had/has no special skills, other than he can throw a football kinda hard. So sick of him and his fans. 

One of the worst most baseless qb assessments for a college player in a long time.  Zach Wilson should’ve been drafted in the 5th or 6th round

[Ron Rico]

Ah, the propaganda campaign gets under way. Psy ops to prepare you for Zach's rebirth. JD is counting on all of you to have short memories and accept what is inevitable. 

This is all Psy Ops. 

You'll see.

[Long Island Leprechaun]

2 hours ago, Dunnie said:

The exact quote was something like ...

it's hard to win the NFL, it harder to win when there are a bunch of injuries, it's especially hard when there are holes on the team.

So ... Truth





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Thanks. The OP completely misrepresented the interview. You got it correct.

[maury77]

Zach should reinvent himself as an actor and audition for Cobra Kai, he could play Johnny's younger brother. 

[Ron Rico]

Zach defines Peter Principle. 

[Arsis]

Who is John beck? Mysterio from spider man?

[undertow]

10 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

Thanks. The OP completely misrepresented the interview. You got it correct.

The quote was misrepresented but it still isn't reality.....Wilson was carried the first 10 games of the season the injuries just exposed him he's fortunate he wasn't benched in game 5.

[maury77]

53 minutes ago, Arsis said:

Who is John beck? Mysterio from spider man?

That would be Quentin Beck. 

[thebuzzardman]

It would be nice if could reinvent himself as an NFL football player

[CanadaSteve]

3 hours ago, Dunnie said:

Funny i was thinking ..If only Mims could grow some new hands.

He would have caught more balls if Zach could have hit is 70 inch wingspan a little more accurately.

[Arsis]

24 minutes ago, maury77 said:

That would be Quentin Beck. 

Same relevance to the nfl

[MARTIN]

5 hours ago, TeachMeHowtoDouglas said:

He also said Zach doesn’t have the ability to get out of NY and it’s tough playing on a team with little talent. 
 

OP misquotes and then replies are based on misquote.... brilliant stuff ppl

[jgb]

2 hours ago, 56mehl56 said:

BYU may be the biggest issue but Elmhurst was a large contributing factor.

And I'll save you the lookup , MLF went to Elmhurst, 

Fully open to the argument that more than one thing sucked at once 

[jgb]

1 hour ago, maury77 said:

Zach should reinvent himself as an actor and audition for Cobra Kai, he could play Johnny's younger brother. 

[TuscanyTile2]

2 hours ago, GreenFish said:

He didn't say little talent.

Assuming you are referring to him saying, it’s hard to win the team as holes. The team had holes on the OL. 

And WR (other than GW).

Eli Moore wasn't very good (other than at complaining). 

Corey Davis could always be counted on for a drop (and often a dumb penalty). 

The TEs played below par (though Ty Conklin was pretty good for a stretch).  

 

At RB, we didn't have much behind Breece.  MC went backwards this year, though maybe it was due to the OL.

[Ben Had]

6 hours ago, TeachMeHowtoDouglas said:

He also said Zach doesn’t have the ability to get out of NY and it’s tough playing on a team with little talent. 
 

First of all...John Beck sucks...What has he done in the NFL?

[greenwichjetfan]

Ok cool. Let him reinvent himself from the 34th best QB to the 31st best QB elsewhere.

[Stark]

6 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

I’d be happy to launch this little turd to the moon.

I will happily fly to meet you and assist. 

 

[jgb]

So does the Edsel

[AZSOJ]

My take on what JB said that ZW was unwilling to let go of his "college playing sryle."  To me that says it all... benching him was the correct move and should have been done alot sooner and I am not convinced he is worth the effort at this point.  What happens if , God forbod, he taks the field pressure comes ...like the old boxing anology, you have a plan until you get hit. 

IMHO - and his is my speculation, the only reason he is still on the team is because Woody doesn't want to cause a problem with his buddy, ZW uncle.  

 

[Beerfish]

At this point in time he is an asset we hope to increase in value before moving.  He is Becton status right now, not expecting anything from him but would be nice if he adds value to himself.

[Sammybighead]

I was under the impression that beck was supposed to "reinvent" zach

[Dunnie]

Zach will red shirt this year .. and compete next summer ..book it. But don't let an educated mind get in the way of your senseless tirades ... please continue ... if not for anything else ... the entertainment value alone.

[Rangers9]

I still think the Jets might trade him. If they’re going to overpay for vet QB it could slice 20 million off a 20 plus per year maybe 30 plus salary. If Rodgers 50. I don’t see them red shirting Zach after 22 starts. I know they’re saying it but could be NT. There are teams who I think would trade for him and even pick up his salary.