Possible Suitor for Wilson

[mudcat22]

With the Jets awful OL, it really is impossible to rate him the past couple of years.  Not saying he is good, but no QB could do well with that OL.

[The Crusher]

1 minute ago, mudcat22 said:

With the Jets awful OL, it really is impossible to rate him the past couple of years.  Not saying he is good, but no QB could do well with that OL.

It really isn’t. 

[Green Ghost]

3 hours ago, mudcat22 said:

With the Jets awful OL, it really is impossible to rate him the past couple of years.  Not saying he is good, but no QB could do well with that OL.

Despite them bringing in the jaggiest of jags so as not to threaten his fragile psyche, every other QB they ran out there (with the exception of Boyle) over the past 3 years looked better than he did behind that OL. 

[Rich Thornburgh]

You can only blame the OL for so long.

 

[Rich Thornburgh]

3 hours ago, mrcoops said:

I'd rather have Josh Dobbs than Zach Wilson too.

Lou Dobbs would be better than ZW

[JetsfaninNorthHollywood]

11 hours ago, Rangers9 said:

Looks like no deal for Zach unless the Jets take on most of his 2024 salary. If they release him Jets pay most of it anyways. So are teams willing to fork up a conditional 6th or 7th pick to get him. He's not going to Rams who just signed Jimmy G. I was thinking maybe KC since he played fairly well against them. Their backup last year Blaine Gabbert is a UFA. 

Ive said before that Andy Reid is probably the only coach who could get his career turned around. Park his ego at the door and back up Mahomes, and watch him the in the film room, practice, etc. Reid could probably help Wentz cure his terminal case of cranimus rectimitus.

[Prodigal Syndicate]

Tbh im betting no team is willing to give up anything other than a 7th or a conditional and forcing the Jets to eat most the contract.

Douglas is probably holding out hope someone will panic and give him something favorable but I doubt anyone does for Wilson. 

I'm sure if cut outright a team would take a flyer on him as a QB3.

[bitonti]

1 hour ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

 

I'm sure if cut outright a team would take a flyer on him as a QB3.

Teams don't really do qb 3 on the roster anymore. It's become an unpaid internship on the practice squad 

Lets face it, Zach wilson does not have any trade value. A team in Canada maybe? Or maybe not 

This is everyone's daily reminder that Zach wilson is the worst draft pick in Jets history 

[Jetsfan80]

The Bidding War continues.  Day 

[Dunnie]

There’s gotta be some off the field element with him, man. The kid has talent and he’s put some good games and throws on tape, so you’d think someone would want him on a roster, but he’s being Hackenberg’d out of the league. 

I agree... Not saying he is a starter .... But yeah the complete lack iof interest s a bit odd.

I think it may be because our dufus owner killed any trade value when he opened his hole .... Maybe teams know he will be released and are waiting to get something for nothing.

I've moved on tbh.

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[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

8 hours ago, T0mShane said:

There’s gotta be some off the field element with him, man. The kid has talent and he’s put some good games and throws on tape, so you’d think someone would want him on a roster, but he’s being Hackenberg’d out of the league. 

Wait for the feeding frenzy once he’s cut 🤣

No team is dumb enough to take the Jets off the hook for their idiotic decision to pass on Chase and Sewell and Parsons for literally the worst starting QB in the NFL over the last 3 years.

Andy Reid and Shanahan are laying in wait to add him as a developmental PS project / “camp arm” for 0 to 50K in gtd cheddar.

[TheAustrian]

Only possible team 

 

 

[Biggs]

 

 

3 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Andy Reid and Shanahan are laying in wait to add him as a developmental PS project / “camp arm” for 0 to 50K in gtd cheddar.

You’re ignoring that his head comes with the arm.

[Jet Nut]

9 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

You can only blame the OL for so long.

 

Funny, that’s Zach Wilson’s best game of his career.  
27-36-301-2-0, not a bad day.  Too bad he didn’t do it enough

[Jet Nut]

On 3/19/2024 at 12:38 AM, bitonti said:

Teams don't really do qb 3 on the roster anymore. It's become an unpaid internship on the practice squad 

Lets face it, Zach wilson does not have any trade value. A team in Canada maybe? Or maybe not 

This is everyone's daily reminder that Zach wilson is the worst draft pick in Jets history 

Worst draft pick ever? 
Not if you’ve been a Jet fan as long as some of us.

You know why this post is a winner?  Fantasy loser gives an opinion a thumbs down

[bitonti]

1 hour ago, Jet Nut said:

Worst draft pick ever? 
Not if you’ve been a Jet fan as long as some of us.

 

I have been a Jets fan since the early 80s 

the Jets don't pick at 1 or 2 overall all that often. it happens like once every 10-15 years 

There have been more worthless picks perhaps like Johnny Lam Jones or Gholston but Wilson being terrible had the knock on effect of the franchise bringing in Rodgers/Hackett/Lazard/Cobb etc 

the other players were just bad and they left. Wilson is so terrible we can't even trade or cut him and he still has this huge cap hit 

[Beerfish]

1 minute ago, bitonti said:

I have been a Jets fan since the early 80s 

the Jets don't pick at 1 or 2 overall all that often. it happens like once every 10-15 years 

There have been more worthless picks perhaps like Johnny Lam Jones or Gholston but Wilson being terrible had the knock on effect of the franchise bringing in Rodgers/Hackett/Lazard/Cobb etc 

the other players were just bad and they left. Wilson is so terrible we can't even trade or cut him and he still has this huge cap hit 

So we are blaming Zach Wilson for Douglas and saleh making the Rodgers scenario now?

Better give both of them extensions seeing as they had no choice as to how to react to their #2 overall QB not working out, not their fault at all.

I think he is also responsible for global warming.

[bitonti]

8 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

So we are blaming Zach Wilson for Douglas and saleh making the Rodgers scenario now?

 

it's not an excuse for Douglas it's what happened

JD should have been fired 2 years ago. All of them should have tbh 

[Jet Nut]

On 3/19/2024 at 10:54 AM, bitonti said:

I have been a Jets fan since the early 80s 

the Jets don't pick at 1 or 2 overall all that often. it happens like once every 10-15 years 

There have been more worthless picks perhaps like Johnny Lam Jones or Gholston but Wilson being terrible had the knock on effect of the franchise bringing in Rodgers/Hackett/Lazard/Cobb etc 

the other players were just bad and they left. Wilson is so terrible we can't even trade or cut him and he still has this huge cap hit 

They didn’t have to bring in Rodgers/Hackett etc. Has nothing to do with Zach.  QBs fail when they come to the NFL the vast majority of the time.  Jets needed a QB, were picking 2nd and they took the consensus #2 QB.  He failed, not all that shocking given the hit rate of college QBs.  No one after Trevor has come close to being a FQB

Lam Jones, Robertson, Gholston, Boose, Lagaman, Miliner & and of course Blair Thomas

[bitonti]

4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

They didn’t have to bring in Rodgers/Hackett etc. Has nothing to do with Zach.  QBs fail when they come to the NFL the vast majority of the time.  Jets needed a QB, we’re picking 2nd and the took the consensus #2 QB.  He failed, not all that shocking given the hit rate.  No one after Trevor has come close to being a FQB

Lam Jones, Robertson, Gholston, Boose, Lagaman, Miliner & and of course Blair Thomas

Lam Jones, Blair Thomas are the real comparisons because they were all 2 picks 

It's not really fair to say Dee Milliner is as big a bust as Zach (or Blair or Lam) when one guy went like 9th overall and the other one went 2 

The distance between 2 and 9 by the way is like an extra mid first round pick on the trade chart

Lam Jones and Blair Thomas were disappointments but Zach is a historically bad QB, his stats are almost identical to Jamarcus Russell over 34 starts. He's a Ryan Leaf level bust making him the worst draft pick in Jets history 

and saying Zach and Aaron are unrelated is wishful thinking. This whole Rodgers disaster was a direct result of the Jets missing at 2 on Zach. Again it's not like they traded the franchise for Ricky Watters or something after they missed on Blair Thomas 

[The Crusher]

Zach will be our #3 QB. Sooner all you guys except that the better. 

[Rangers9]

I think they'll release him. Wasn't there rumors Jets management promised to trade him. Plus the owner already trashed him. But if they do keep him he could have some value when injuries hit in preseason and reg season. 

[Rangers9]

The thing is in 2021 if Jets didn't select Zach at overall 2 when would he have been drafted. The Jets apparently believed pretty early. He was a first round talent shouldn't have been drafted so high and shouldn't have started his first season.

[section314]

35 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

They didn’t have to bring in Rodgers/Hackett etc. Has nothing to do with Zach.  QBs fail when they come to the NFL the vast majority of the time.  Jets needed a QB, we’re picking 2nd and the took the consensus #2 QB.  He failed, not all that shocking given the hit rate.  No one after Trevor has come close to being a FQB

Lam Jones, Robertson, Gholston, Boose, Lagaman, Miliner & and of course Blair Thomas

Jeff Lagaman doesn’t come close to being on that list. He was a good player.

[mrcoops]

5 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

The thing is in 2021 if Jets didn't select Zach at overall 2 when would he have been drafted. The Jets apparently believed pretty early. He was a first round talent shouldn't have been drafted so high and shouldn't have started his first season.

Zach was clearly a terrible pick, but it wasn't just the Jets.  If the Jets hadn't picked him at 2, the 49ers would have picked him at 3.

The Eagles looked into trading up to 3 for Wilson pre-draft, but didn't go ahead with the trade up when it became clear the Jets were picking him at 2.

So, his floor was 3.  The Jets got the pick wrong, but other teams were fooled too.

[Alka]

Just now, section314 said:

Jeff Lagaman doesn’t come close to being on that list. He was a good player.

Jeff Lageman was not a good player.  I think we picked him around #19? or so, and he was a disappointment.  If you say he wasn't a total bust, I might agree with you.

[Matt39]

3 minutes ago, Alka said:

Jeff Lageman was not a good player.  I think we picked him around #19? or so, and he was a disappointment.  If you say he wasn't a total bust, I might agree with you.

Lageman was a good player and had a solid career after the Jets with the Jaguars

[Jet Nut]

21 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Lam Jones, Blair Thomas are the real comparisons because they were all 2 picks 

It's not really fair to say Dee Milliner is as big a bust as Zach (or Blair or Lam) when one guy went like 9th overall and the other one went 2 

The distance between 2 and 9 by the way is like an extra mid first round pick on the trade chart

Lam Jones and Blair Thomas were disappointments but Zach is a historically bad QB, his stats are almost identical to Jamarcus Russell over 34 starts. He's a Ryan Leaf level bust making him the worst draft pick in Jets history 

and saying Zach and Aaron are unrelated is wishful thinking. This whole Rodgers disaster was a direct result of the Jets missing at 2 on Zach. Again it's not like they traded the franchise for Ricky Watters or something after they missed on Blair Thomas 

My thinking is a Dee Miliner was a china doll during his college career and why would you assume the NFL would change that.  So there were plenty of warning signs that were ignored.  While Zach was picked right where he should have been to a QB needy team.  The “historically” bad title is overused too.  There have been plenty of Art Schlister types that were as bad floating around.  Zach wouldn’t have been a better pick if the 9’rs got him at three or the Bears wherever.   It’s always been Blair Thomas and still is Blair Thomas as the biggest miss.  He was a RB, they don’t bust as 2nd overall picks, QBs do.  Often.  Not only did BT suck so much, Cortez Kennedy and Jr Seau went right behind him and of course Emmitt Smith 15 picks later.  All HOF players

AR8 being picked to take over is not wishful thinking.  Start with Rodgers is not a disaster because he suffered a freak injury week 1.  Sucks but isn’t a disaster.  
The Jets could have picked up a different QB to take over.  Could have signed a Carr etc.  They wanted Rodgers because he was the best of the group, no matter how much you don’t like him.  
 

[Jet Nut]

12 minutes ago, section314 said:

Jeff Lagaman doesn’t come close to being on that list. He was a good player.

started his career looking bad but when they switched him to LB he was better

Close but probably not deserving of being on the list, you’re right.

 

[Jet Nut]

32 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Zach will be our #3 QB. Sooner all you guys except that the better. 

Why would we care?  #3 is like the practice squad

[Rangers9]

10 minutes ago, mrcoops said:

Zach was clearly a terrible pick, but it wasn't just the Jets.  If the Jets hadn't picked him at 2, the 49ers would have picked him at 3.

The Eagles looked into trading up to 3 for Wilson pre-draft, but didn't go ahead with the trade up when it became clear the Jets were picking him at 2.

So, his floor was 3.  The Jets got the pick wrong, but other teams were fooled too.

I think if he'd have been drafted in the teens to 20's and been backup to somebody like Flacco his first year he'd have been better. He wasn't and still isn't ready to start. But he can come in and make plays he has the arm and the legs just not consistently. Keeping him at 3 isn't a bad idea but don't think they'll go in that direction. 

[Rangers9]

Look Pickett was a first round pick (20) early on won their staring job a town favorite and they've already shipped him out. 

[#27TheDominator]

Lageman was good.  He was not a great player, but he was a good one.  He had a much better career with the Jets than the Jags, but he signed a big money deal with them. 

That draft was littered with HOFers and busts.  Aikman at one overall, then Tony Mandarich followed by Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas and Deion. Lageman went 14th plenty of busts before him and the next better players taken were probably Wayne Martin and Atwater at 19 and 20.  Andy Heck was the next pick.  Andre Rison might have been the only other guy taken after him in the 1st round that had a better career but he was kind of nuts and traded as part of the Jeff George deal the following season.  Plenty of studs went later, but Lageman probably still goes very late first in a re-draft.

[Matt39]

45 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Zach will be our #3 QB. Sooner all you guys except that the better. 

Don’t have to tell me

[section314]

4 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Lageman was good.  He was not a great player, but he was a good one.  He had a much better career with the Jets than the Jags, but he signed a big money deal with them. 

That draft was littered with HOFers and busts.  Aikman at one overall, then Tony Mandarich followed by Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas and Deion. Lageman went 14th plenty of busts before him and the next better players taken were probably Wayne Martin and Atwater at 19 and 20.  Andy Heck was the next pick.  Andre Rison might have been the only other guy taken after him in the 1st round that had a better career but he was kind of nuts and traded as part of the Jeff George deal the following season.  Plenty of studs went later, but Lageman probably still goes very late first in a re-draft.

Good synopsis. As you well remember, that was the year Kiper went ballistic when the Jets took Lagsman over the immortal Hart Lee Dykes, screaming that the “Jets have no idea what the draft is all about.”😁Dykes played about 15 mins in the league.