Against the narrative - JD is playing this smart

[Jdeet]

We have hundreds of threads and posts about how bad of an off season JD and the Jets are having. But, I believe the opposite. He is obviously facing an unknown in what Rodgers is going to do. Maybe he knows already. Either way, spending ridiculous money on a WR or LT might be what everyone wanted, but 20 mil per season for an extended period of time, isn’t smart, when we might be faced with filling a larger hole on the offense. QB. 

If Rodgers does indeed run for VP or retire, we are faced with having to either draft a QB, trading up or trading back, or trading for Justin Fields. As much as people say the cap isn’t real, tell that to the Chargers, who had to get rid of both of their WRs and both of their starting LBs, and restructure both of their edge rushers, just to be able to obtain minimal assets.

Even if A-Rod sticks with us, we know we are needing a couple of WRs and a starting LT. Trading for Keenan Allen would have been a foolish move, leaving us over the cap by a good amount, having to try and restructure several contracts just to fit in our draft picks.

Getting a 10 mil WR and drafting an LT or vice versa, along with the lower tier moves JD has already made, makes a lot of sense. I definitely would have rather had Bryce Huff re-signed. But there is the thought that maybe he didn’t feel respected here and he went to a winning team. That’s on Saleh and his edge rush rotational strategy, but it has worked so far for him and I am confident WMC will be a sufficient replacement, along with the guys we are bringing back. Our secondary is still elite.

These are the moves I would make from here 

Sign Mike Williams/ Corey Davis/Tyler Boyd

Sign a depth LT (dBak)

Draft a 1st round LT (Alt/Olu)

Draft a 3rd round WR/QB

Draft a 4th round WR/QB

Draft a later round RB 

Draft a later round safety/Edge rusher

i think we are covering all bases here and we then just need to pray Aaron Rodgers comes back. 

[dbatesman]

Trying to imagine the level of brainworms needed to say “Rodgers might retire after playing four snaps for the Jets, which is why Joe Douglas is actually doing a good job”

[Edgy]

2 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Trying to imagine the level of brainworms needed to say “Rodgers might retire after playing four snaps for the Jets, which is why Joe Douglas is actually doing a good job”

 Probably because he would have kept Darnold but the owner told him to draft Wilson then to make the Roger’s thing happen.

trying to imagine the level of brainworms that thinks internet troll boys know more than even the worst of GMs who are professionals

[Ghost420]

If they sign a LT, they won't take one at 10. 

[T0mShane]

6 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

Either way, spending ridiculous money on a WR or LT might be what everyone wanted, but 20 mil per season for an extended period of time, isn’t smart, when we might be faced with filling a larger hole on the offense. QB. 

100% agree. It’s why I stopped buying nutritious food, paying my bills, and brushing my teeth. Because what if this possessed infant that I liberated from an iron cell deep in the catacombs of the Vatican (ignoring a sign that said—in Latin—“Do Not Liberate This Satan Baby”) ends up killing me and all my pets? Gotta conserve resources in case the worst—if completely predictable—thing happens. 

[Green Ghost]

8 minutes ago, Edgy said:

 Probably because he would have kept Darnold but the owner told him to draft Wilson then to make the Roger’s thing happen.

trying to imagine the level of brainworms that thinks internet troll boys know more than even the worst of GMs who are professionals

Yep, the user name checks out! 👍

[Jetfuel66]

15 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

We have hundreds of threads and posts about how bad of an off season JD and the Jets are having. But, I believe the opposite. He is obviously facing an unknown in what Rodgers is going to do. Maybe he knows already. Either way, spending ridiculous money on a WR or LT might be what everyone wanted, but 20 mil per season for an extended period of time, isn’t smart, when we might be faced with filling a larger hole on the offense. QB. 

If Rodgers does indeed run for VP or retire, we are faced with having to either draft a QB, trading up or trading back, or trading for Justin Fields. As much as people say the cap isn’t real, tell that to the Chargers, who had to get rid of both of their WRs and both of their starting LBs, and restructure both of their edge rushers, just to be able to obtain minimal assets.

Even if A-Rod sticks with us, we know we are needing a couple of WRs and a starting LT. Trading for Keenan Allen would have been a foolish move, leaving us over the cap by a good amount, having to try and restructure several contracts just to fit in our draft picks.

Getting a 10 mil WR and drafting an LT or vice versa, along with the lower tier moves JD has already made, makes a lot of sense. I definitely would have rather had Bryce Huff re-signed. But there is the thought that maybe he didn’t feel respected here and he went to a winning team. That’s on Saleh and his edge rush rotational strategy, but it has worked so far for him and I am confident WMC will be a sufficient replacement, along with the guys we are bringing back. Our secondary is still elite.

These are the moves I would make from here 

Sign Mike Williams/ Corey Davis/Tyler Boyd

Sign a depth LT (dBak)

Draft a 1st round LT (Alt/Olu)

Draft a 3rd round WR/QB

Draft a 4th round WR/QB

Draft a later round RB 

Draft a later round safety/Edge rusher

i think we are covering all bases here and we then just need to pray Aaron Rodgers comes back. 

Great post.

In my opinion there is no way Rodgers is going into politics at this point. I do enjoy all of the PC fairies getting their feathers ruffled though.

I always thought JD has done an above-average job given the circumstances he had when he arrived. He has found talent off the scrap heap from other teams, has made some fantastic trades and has shown the ability to find undrafted talent to develop.

Some with blinders only look at his record, but anyone who understands football, and managing people for that matter, understands that there is a much bigger picture you need to look at when making an assessment of a GM. That is a SIMPLEMINDED approach for simple thinkers.

The easy/lazy way out is to just whine bitch and complain and maximize the negatives while minimizing the positives to make yourself feel better.

The fact is that none of us on this board really know what is going on behind closed doors.

I hope the negative naysayers on this board don't go beserk over a positive JD post but be prepared for the backlash. You are not allowed to be positive on this board unfortunately.

[dbatesman]

23 minutes ago, Edgy said:

 Probably because he would have kept Darnold but the owner told him to draft Wilson then to make the Roger’s thing happen.

trying to imagine the level of brainworms that thinks internet troll boys know more than even the worst of GMs who are professionals

oh wow

[oatmeal]

35 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

We have hundreds of threads and posts about how bad of an off season JD and the Jets are having. But, I believe the opposite. He is obviously facing an unknown in what Rodgers is going to do. Maybe he knows already. Either way, spending ridiculous money on a WR or LT might be what everyone wanted, but 20 mil per season for an extended period of time, isn’t smart, when we might be faced with filling a larger hole on the offense. QB. 

If Rodgers does indeed run for VP or retire, we are faced with having to either draft a QB, trading up or trading back, or trading for Justin Fields. As much as people say the cap isn’t real, tell that to the Chargers, who had to get rid of both of their WRs and both of their starting LBs, and restructure both of their edge rushers, just to be able to obtain minimal assets.

Even if A-Rod sticks with us, we know we are needing a couple of WRs and a starting LT. Trading for Keenan Allen would have been a foolish move, leaving us over the cap by a good amount, having to try and restructure several contracts just to fit in our draft picks.

Getting a 10 mil WR and drafting an LT or vice versa, along with the lower tier moves JD has already made, makes a lot of sense. I definitely would have rather had Bryce Huff re-signed. But there is the thought that maybe he didn’t feel respected here and he went to a winning team. That’s on Saleh and his edge rush rotational strategy, but it has worked so far for him and I am confident WMC will be a sufficient replacement, along with the guys we are bringing back. Our secondary is still elite.

These are the moves I would make from here 

Sign Mike Williams/ Corey Davis/Tyler Boyd

Sign a depth LT (dBak)

Draft a 1st round LT (Alt/Olu)

Draft a 3rd round WR/QB

Draft a 4th round WR/QB

Draft a later round RB 

Draft a later round safety/Edge rusher

i think we are covering all bases here and we then just need to pray Aaron Rodgers comes back. 

[Fed Hill Jet]

I still don't think JD is the problem.   It's more a coaching issue

[extmenace]

2 minutes ago, Fed Hill Jet said:

I still don't think JD is the problem.   It's more a coaching issue

There’s been a ton of bad luck involved too. People don’t want to acknowledge it, need to blame someone.

[BigRy56]

For better or for worse, he’s done things his way. The ‘Rodgers is the GM’ stuff was never an actual thing, just a troll job. It’s been up and down with a lot of bad luck so far in his tenure.

JD is having a good offseason this year and let’s hope we get some good injury luck and see what his roster can actually accomplish at semi-full strength

[shuler82]

43 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

, spending ridiculous money on a WR or LT might be what everyone wanted, but 20 mil per season for an extended period of time, isn’t smart, when we might be faced with filling a larger hole on the offense. QB. 

[Jdeet]

1 minute ago, shuler82 said:

😂 awesome timing right ?? 

[jetswin]

As we all know its hard to tell if anything works ahead of time, however Douglas is quietly addressing all needs and setting the Jets up for a draft full of youthful production at skill spots. He gets killed here but I'm pretty happy so far...

[Jdeet]

Like I said, we need to spend big on an OL now, and draft a WR….. what ?

[Dunnie]

My brain says the record keeps his ass on the hot seat.

My eyes say this guy might be the best GM the team has ever had.

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[Prodigal Syndicate]

3 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

My brain says the record keeps his ass on the hot seat.

My eyes say this guy might be the best GM the team has ever had.

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Have you considered seeing an optometrist?

[CrazyCarl40]

Tyron Smith is cool but JD pissed away Huff for basically nothing now. Sleep well!

[Jets Things]

9 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Tyron Smith is cool but JD pissed away Huff for basically nothing now. Sleep well!

Third down DE wanted to be paid like a three down DE, which he wasn't and never will be. Yeah, sucks we didn't get anything for him, but at least we didn't have to pay him. Just watch him get manhandled in the run game next season and you'll see why he's a specialist. 

[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

2 hours ago, Jdeet said:

We have hundreds of threads and posts about how bad of an off season JD and the Jets are having. But, I believe the opposite. He is obviously facing an unknown in what Rodgers is going to do. Maybe he knows already. Either way, spending ridiculous money on a WR or LT might be what everyone wanted, but 20 mil per season for an extended period of time, isn’t smart, when we might be faced with filling a larger hole on the offense. QB. 

If Rodgers does indeed run for VP or retire, we are faced with having to either draft a QB, trading up or trading back, or trading for Justin Fields. As much as people say the cap isn’t real, tell that to the Chargers, who had to get rid of both of their WRs and both of their starting LBs, and restructure both of their edge rushers, just to be able to obtain minimal assets.

Even if A-Rod sticks with us, we know we are needing a couple of WRs and a starting LT. Trading for Keenan Allen would have been a foolish move, leaving us over the cap by a good amount, having to try and restructure several contracts just to fit in our draft picks.

Getting a 10 mil WR and drafting an LT or vice versa, along with the lower tier moves JD has already made, makes a lot of sense. I definitely would have rather had Bryce Huff re-signed. But there is the thought that maybe he didn’t feel respected here and he went to a winning team. That’s on Saleh and his edge rush rotational strategy, but it has worked so far for him and I am confident WMC will be a sufficient replacement, along with the guys we are bringing back. Our secondary is still elite.

These are the moves I would make from here 

Sign Mike Williams/ Corey Davis/Tyler Boyd

Sign a depth LT (dBak)

Draft a 1st round LT (Alt/Olu)

Draft a 3rd round WR/QB

Draft a 4th round WR/QB

Draft a later round RB 

Draft a later round safety/Edge rusher

i think we are covering all bases here and we then just need to pray Aaron Rodgers comes back. 

So I will say this. I hate JD and think he sucks as a gm. And I was not happy with JDs first 2-3 days of free agency. 

I still don’t no anything about Simpson. So I’ll plea the 5th on that 1. 

But the tide started to change for me with the Morgan Moses trade. (Never should have let him go) And he signed a player I actually like in Tyron smith.

Tyron smith is the first real FA that the jets have signed that I wanted the jets to sign since JD became in charge. 

I still don’t think he has had a great offseason. But I don’t despise it (as I typically do)  

Draft Odunze @10 and I’ll be happy. 

[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

11 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Tyron Smith is cool but JD pissed away Huff for basically nothing now. Sleep well!

Unpopular opinion…. Huff is overrated around these parts. 

the second they drafted McDonald everyone should have known huff was a goner. (But yes he should have traded him at the deadline last year) 

[HighPitch]

1 hour ago, jetswin said:

As we all know its hard to tell if anything works ahead of time, however Douglas is quietly addressing all needs and setting the Jets up for a draft full of youthful production at skill spots. He gets killed here but I'm pretty happy so far...

I think the past few days have been fruitful, but I say that every year. Just watch in december where were cursing jd and talking about hiw all these free agents suck balls lol

[CrazyCarl40]

6 hours ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said:

Unpopular opinion…. Huff is overrated around these parts. 

the second they drafted McDonald everyone should have known huff was a goner. (But yes he should have traded him at the deadline last year) 

McDonald was a bad pick. Huff should have been extended a long time ago. Not trading him and now not likely getting anything for him is a failure. 

[CanadienJetsFan]

The only unforgivable decision that I place at JD’s feet was not signing a viable backup last season. The rest, like drafting, I can live with.

So far, I think he’s executing a good off-season.

Thank you JD. You big, bald beautiful bastard, you!

[doitny]

7 hours ago, Dunnie said:

My brain says the record keeps his ass on the hot seat.

My eyes say this guy might be the best GM the team has ever had.

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100%

 

[southparkcpa]

9 hours ago, Edgy said:

 Probably because he would have kept Darnold but the owner told him to draft Wilson then to make the Roger’s thing happen.

trying to imagine the level of brainworms that thinks internet troll boys know more than even the worst of GMs who are professionals

These GM's aren't that smart.  Our last 3 GM's are not smart. I have met many professionals in my career that I guarantee would do a better job.

[southparkcpa]

15 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said:

The only unforgivable decision that I place at JD’s feet was not signing a viable backup last season. The rest, like drafting, I can live with.

So far, I think he’s executing a good off-season.

Thank you JD. You big, bald beautiful bastard, you!

I add to that drafting Becton. I don't even fault the Wilson pick as much.   But honest evaluation, in 4 years we still have a well below average O-line. 

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

9 hours ago, Fed Hill Jet said:

I still don't think JD is the problem.   It's more a coaching issue

Can’t fully evaluate Douglas or Saleh for that matter until you have a QB that gives the team only mid-level Average QB play.

If they had that the past 2 years they would have been a playoff team and both would be looked at in a way different light today.  They sure built a very strong D from close to Nothing since they got here.

Really dislike that Hackett and his father were ever employed by my favorite team and disgusted that one of them still is.

[FidelioJet]

11 hours ago, Edgy said:

 Probably because he would have kept Darnold but the owner told him to draft Wilson then to make the Roger’s thing happen.

trying to imagine the level of brainworms that thinks internet troll boys know more than even the worst of GMs who are professionals

The classic JD defense...

All bad things are Woody's fault - all the good things are solely him.

There is ZERO proof Woody pushed Zach on JD.  There is ample evidence JD loved Zach.

JD has done some nice things but overall he's been a bad GM.  His record is clear on that.

 

[CanadienJetsFan]

1 hour ago, southparkcpa said:

I add to that drafting Becton

Yeah maybe but how was JD supposed to know that Becton was going to eat his way out of the NFL?

[32EBoozer]

12 hours ago, Jdeet said:

We have hundreds of threads and posts about how bad of an off season JD and the Jets are having. But, I believe the opposite. He is obviously facing an unknown in what Rodgers is going to do. Maybe he knows already. Either way, spending ridiculous money on a WR or LT might be what everyone wanted, but 20 mil per season for an extended period of time, isn’t smart, when we might be faced with filling a larger hole on the offense. QB. 

If Rodgers does indeed run for VP or retire, we are faced with having to either draft a QB, trading up or trading back, or trading for Justin Fields. As much as people say the cap isn’t real, tell that to the Chargers, who had to get rid of both of their WRs and both of their starting LBs, and restructure both of their edge rushers, just to be able to obtain minimal assets.

Even if A-Rod sticks with us, we know we are needing a couple of WRs and a starting LT. Trading for Keenan Allen would have been a foolish move, leaving us over the cap by a good amount, having to try and restructure several contracts just to fit in our draft picks.

Getting a 10 mil WR and drafting an LT or vice versa, along with the lower tier moves JD has already made, makes a lot of sense. I definitely would have rather had Bryce Huff re-signed. But there is the thought that maybe he didn’t feel respected here and he went to a winning team. That’s on Saleh and his edge rush rotational strategy, but it has worked so far for him and I am confident WMC will be a sufficient replacement, along with the guys we are bringing back. Our secondary is still elite.

These are the moves I would make from here 

Sign Mike Williams/ Corey Davis/Tyler Boyd

Sign a depth LT (dBak)

Draft a 1st round LT (Alt/Olu)

Draft a 3rd round WR/QB

Draft a 4th round WR/QB

Draft a later round RB 

Draft a later round safety/Edge rusher

i think we are covering all bases here and we then just need to pray Aaron Rodgers comes back. 

@JDeet …. Very interesting handle!

Listen-up, Joe. If you want a positive feel good thread to show Woody, then either trade for Justin Jefferson for pick 10 and Lazard the same deal for AJ Brown or for MHJ and we’ll give you a good recommendation with the Wooster for a new deal….. but Saleh needs to go

STAY OFF JetNation!

[southparkcpa]

53 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said:

Yeah maybe but how was JD supposed to know that Becton was going to eat his way out of the NFL?

We have  been through this 98 percent of draft experts had Wirfs way ahead of Becton.  But JD drafts Becton and his good buddy from UNCC thinking as a team they would GEL.   Not how good GM's operate. He is not a good GM. His record speaks volumes. 

[PepPep]

This post is about THIS offseason and THIS offseason, so far, JD has done a great job.  

He has gotten good value for his money and draft capital given up in the Moses trade. The Kinlaw price tag was a little steep and a bit of a headscratcher. But I think this was one of those things where Saleh pounded th etable for an uber athletic DT and promised he could coach him up.  

I get that he has been bargain bin shopping and it doesn't seem like any big trades will happen before the draft. But he has taken care of EXCTLY what everyone on here said the main goals were before FA started, and there's still time to do more and address needs in the drafts:

QB2 - T.Taylor

LT- T.Smith (assuming this goes down)

G- Simpson

RT- Moses (trade)

DT2 - Kinlaw

DT3- Run stuffer - Fotu

CB- Specials - Oliver

WR2: ??? Still a need. Allan Lazard on trade block?

Resigned: K, P, DT, G, S, TE Do we resign Ash Davis? McGovern? Newman? I think theres plenty of time to decide on that. 

So yes, the clear remaining hole is WR2. And its quite possible as I am typing this the Jets are verbally agreeing to terms with Mike Williams. But if not, even with the group we have now, I am super confident going into the draft that the Jets can add a nice weapon for Rodgers in this loaded class. 

And I don't think fans are giving him as much credit as they should for the necessary (albeit maybe obvious?) moves that he made to clear cap - Re-structuring Mosley, cutting Uzomah, cutting Laken, letting Whitehead walk, letting Huff walk. 

*Sidenote: I want to make it clear that I think JD should have traded Huff last season if he had no intention of re-signing him. But this offseason, his price tag is too steep and I think letting him walk was the right decision. This is a deep D-line with a talented young edge rusher who needs snaps in McDonald. And this is a team that needs to win now and allocate funds to other areas of need ASAP. Investing a 51mil contract in Huff would have been a poor allocation of funds imo. 

On paper. Boring this has been a boring but great offseason for JD so far. A home run draft would take it over the top.