Popular Post AFJF Posted April 15 Popular Post Share Posted April 15 The Bowers conversation is like beating a dead horse at this point. Most folks are pretty dug in on whether or not they want him. But as one recurring narrative I've seen this week seems to be "he can't work down the field and relied on the screen game" Because not everyone has the time to sit down and watch hours upon hours of college football, I put together his downfield targets and a few carries out of the backfield as well. 14 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolloffjet Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 For how much Rodgers loves YAC guys, Bowers would be a homerun. Especially if the OL doesn't hold up and the ball has to come out quick 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Claymation Posted April 15 Popular Post Share Posted April 15 He reminds me of Denzel Mims, if Denzel caught the ball with his hands, knew how to run a route, power through tacklers, had the ability to high point a ball and knew where to line up. Free Brock! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scotty Wooty Doo Doo Posted April 15 Popular Post Share Posted April 15 He'll tweak his hamstring in training camp and wont play until week 12 . Is there any other injured players the Jets can draft ? 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bitonti Posted April 15 Popular Post Share Posted April 15 14 minutes ago, AFJF said: and a few carries out of the backfield as well. this dude is 240 and has the acceleration to run jet sweeps I'm in the "draft a lineman, please" camp but the appeal of Bowers is understandable 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 18 minutes ago, AFJF said: the catch against Florida around 2min is absolutely ridiculous 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 15 Author Share Posted April 15 Daniel Jeremiah breakdown posted a couple hours ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 he must be doing something right in running his routes to get so open. at least he doesn't go to the ground after catching the ball like brady, becht or keller did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Kind of kills the can’t catch over the middle or contested ball arguments some have made. Hes a TE but he’s a weapon at TE, Rodgers won’t have a problem figuring out how to make the most out of him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Yeah.... But... He was wide open in a couple of those hig.... Nevermind, I got nothing. How is his blocking? Is he a big receiver or a complete TE? I'm one of those guys who doesn't have the time to watch hours of highlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 53 minutes ago, Claymation said: He reminds me of Denzel Mims, if Denzel caught the ball with his hands, knew how to run a route, power through tacklers, had the ability to high point a ball and knew where to line up. Free Brock! Well that escalated quickly! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 More than half his receptions are within 5 yards of line of scrimmage. Lots of screens. Lot of outs to the flat in wide open space. He is schemed open most of the time. He does seems to play faster than he looks. I just don’t think he will be a matchup nightmare that you all think he will be 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: More than half his receptions are within 5 yards of line of scrimmage. Lots of screens. Lot of outs to the flat in wide open space. He is schemed open most of the time. He does seems to play faster than he looks. I just don’t think he will be a matchup nightmare that you all think he will be Saseech his own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: More than half his receptions are within 5 yards of line of scrimmage. Lots of screens. Lot of outs to the flat in wide open space. He is schemed open most of the time. He does seems to play faster than he looks. I just don’t think he will be a matchup nightmare that you all think he will be AR8 likes to get rid of the ball quick, line going to take time to gel. Think this kid very well may be the pick and I'm ok with it. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 18 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Kind of kills the can’t catch over the middle or contested ball arguments some have made. Hes a TE but he’s a weapon at TE, Rodgers won’t have a problem figuring out how to make the most out of him I believe his contested catch rate is 22%. But you won’t be shown that in a highlight video lol 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AFJF Posted April 15 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 15 7 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: More than half his receptions are within 5 yards of line of scrimmage. Lots of screens. Lot of outs to the flat in wide open space. He is schemed open most of the time. He does seems to play faster than he looks. I just don’t think he will be a matchup nightmare that you all think he will be Micah Parsons had 6.5 sacks in his Penn State career. How a team uses a player matters. Seems obvious from the video that he can do more than catch screens. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 31 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: I believe his contested catch rate is 22%. But you won’t be shown that in a highlight video lol You believe wrong unless you believe the earth was born in 2023 It’s 59 percent for his career. A ridiculous 77 percent in 2022. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 58 minutes ago, bitonti said: this dude is 240 and has the acceleration to run jet sweeps I'm in the "draft a lineman, please" camp but the appeal of Bowers is understandable Bowers did not play at 240 more like 230 ... he gained the weight for the combine to minimize the criticism with regards to his playing weight ... whoever the jets draft I will root for to succeed, unless I personally detest them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 minute ago, jetsons said: Bowers did not play at 240 more like 230 ... he gained the weight for the combine to minimize the criticism with regards to his playing weight ... whoever the jets draft I will root for to succeed, unless I personally detest them. @T0mShane could be a George Blanda style kicker and quarterback and I could not root for him if the Super Bowl depended on it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, AFJF said: Micah Parsons had 6.5 sacks in his Penn State career. How a team uses a player matters. Seems obvious from the video that he can do more than catch screens. You are 100 percent correct. Thats why stats especially in college don’t always tell the whole story. But he was georgias number 1 option on passing plays. He got all of the looks. He may be good. He may even be great. I personally think he is overrated as a prospect. I just don’t see what all the hype’s about. Hes not a freak of nature like Pitts was coming out. I’d much prefer a wr or lineman over him at 10. If he’s the pick than so be it. I’ll root for him. Just not my preference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, bla bla bla said: For how much Rodgers loves YAC guys, Bowers would be a homerun. Especially if the OL doesn't hold up and the ball has to come out quick A target that can extend drives and get the tough third down conversion seems positive. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlichtie Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Increasingly feels like he’ll be the shock guy that goes pick 4 to 8….we’ll very possibly never get a shot at him anyway. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 14 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: You believe wrong unless you believe the earth was born in 2023 It’s 59 percent for his career. A ridiculous 77 percent in 2022. You may be right…. Seems to be some conflicting numbers. I was going off this…. or this both could be wrong… maybe people have different metrics to measure contested catch rate? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 20 minutes ago, AFJF said: Micah Parsons had 6.5 sacks in his Penn State career. How a team uses a player matters. Seems obvious from the video that he can do more than catch screens. Parsons was 6'3 246, roughly the same size as Bowers, and ran a sub 4.4 40. He's a freak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viffer Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 17 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: You are 100 percent correct. Thats why stats especially in college don’t always tell the whole story. But he was georgias number 1 option on passing plays. He got all of the looks. He may be good. He may even be great. I personally think he is overrated as a prospect. I just don’t see what all the hype’s about. Hes not a freak of nature like Pitts was coming out. I’d much prefer a wr or lineman over him at 10. If he’s the pick than so be it. I’ll root for him. Just not my preference If Odunze is there at 10 we don't take Bowers. But if the top 2-3 receivers and the top 1-2 tackles are gone, and Bowers is there, take him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 17 minutes ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: A target that can extend drives and get the tough third down conversion seems positive. **** that. We're paying our punter too much money not to use him! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viffer Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 18 minutes ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: A target that can extend drives and get the tough third down conversion seems positive. Yes, we NEED someone who can move the chains consistently. We've been missing that for a long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, AFJF said: The Bowers conversation is like beating a dead horse at this point. Most folks are pretty dug in on whether or not they want him. But as one recurring narrative I've seen this week seems to be "he can't work down the field and relied on the screen game" Because not everyone has the time to sit down and watch hours upon hours of college football, I put together his downfield targets and a few carries out of the backfield as well. For all the Rodgers won't throw over the middle guys, he seems to do plenty of work outside the hashes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 36 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: I believe his contested catch rate is 22%. But you won’t be shown that in a highlight video lol You’re right you won’t see percentages of contested catches. Maybe I should have worded it differently. What I was referring to was those who claimed all his catches came while he was wide open, uncovered. That’s not what all the video on him shows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 To throw in some generalizations that make me not want him high. WRS far out produce TEs TEs take a while to develop it’s easy to find good TEs for a reasonable cap $ TE is not a premium position 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, BurntDice said: To throw in some generalizations that make me not want him high. WRS far out produce TEs TEs take a while to develop it’s easy to find good TEs for a reasonable cap $ TE is not a premium position There are 20 Rome Odunzes in the NFL. There are a handful of elite tight ends. They’re gold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 12 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: There are 20 Rome Odunzes in the NFL. There are a handful of elite tight ends. They’re gold. Elite TEs have the same or worse production as just good WRs who’s an elite TE? Kelce? He had less than 1k yards this year. Our own Garrett Wilson who is good (not great yet) had 100 more yards with the worst qbs in the league throwing to him 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 hours ago, rangerous said: he must be doing something right in running his routes to get so open. at least he doesn't go to the ground after catching the ball like brady, becht or keller did. There is one play where he’s lined on the slot right and literally runs a delayed “route” straight down the field up the seam at like 3/4 speed and finds himself in the end zone untouched 🤣 for an easy TD. The defense basically left him unaccounted for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted April 15 Popular Post Share Posted April 15 11 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: There are 20 Rome Odunzes in the NFL. There are a handful of elite tight ends. They’re gold. Those twenty Rome Odunzes put up 1200+ yards and ten TDs the elite TEs are giving you 800 and maybe five TDs. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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