Popular Post hmhertz Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 NEW YORK JETS: A 1 (11): T Olumuyiwa Fashanu, Penn State 3 (65): WR Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky 4 (134): RB Braelon Allen, Wisconsin 5 (171): QB Jordan Travis, Florida State 5 (173): RB Isaiah Davis, South Dakota State 5 (176): CB Qwan'tez Stiggers, CFL 7 (257): S Jaylen Key, Alabama Fashanu — The Jets offensive line has been a weak point for the last few years. Even though they brought in veteran tackles Tyron Smith and Morgan Moses to strengthen it, bringing in talented depth and getting a succession plan in place makes a lot of sense. Fashanu ranked in the 93rd percentile among qualifying college tackles in pass-blocking grade on true pass sets over the last two seasons. Corley — The Jets trade up to grab one of the more unique wide receivers in this draft class. As a former running back, he is phenomenal with the ball in his hands. Last season, his 683 yards after the catch was good for second among all receivers in this draft class. He forced 63 missed tackles on 253 receptions over the past three seasons, so he adds another layer to Aaron Rodgers’ passing attack. Allen — Allen burst onto the college football scene in 2021 and has been one of the best running backs in college football in each of the last three seasons. Only 20 years old, Allen is built like a truck. A valuable asset that he possesses is his ability to finish games — his 409 yards after contact in the second half of games ranked 13th in the FBS in 2023. He is more than capable of making plays in the screen game, but do not expect him to be utilized much outside of the backfield in regards to targets from the slot or out wide. Travis — After trading away former No. 2 overall pick Zach Wilson, the Jets opt for Travis to fill the void. The Florida State standout totaled 46 big-time throws over the past two seasons, second among ACC quarterbacks, earning an impressive 91.8 PFF grade in the span. Davis — The FCS standout played well above his level of competition in his time at South Dakota State. Davis stood atop the draft class in a number of PFF facet grades. Since 2022, his 151 missed tackles forced helped contribute to his phenomenal 96.8 PFF rushing grade this past season, the highest among all running backs. Stiggers — The hugely talented CFL standout makes his way to the top level after a fantastic 2023 north of the border. Stiggers totaled an 85.0 coverage grade in the CFL this past season, where he forced an incompletion on 12.5% of his coverage snaps while also hauling in five interceptions. He also allowed just 0.95 yards per coverage snap. Key — Jaylen Key recorded a 69.1 PFF grade in 2023, 161st among FBS cornerbacks. He allowed only 13 catches and 145 receiving yards in 2023. Key was not the sought-after prospect his teammates Terrion Arnold and Kool-Aid McKinstry were, but he’s a serviceable corner. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 JD does it again! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FidelioJet Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 Under the circumstances I think this was a very good draft. I'm really bullish on Corley and Allen. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bronx Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 Superbowel! 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco21 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Objectively it was a very good draft. The Jets are finally in a position where drafting a day one starter is not a necessity. The roster is built from top to bottom to allow depth picks while also fortifying future starters. I loved this draft class. Not flashy but big time pickups. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jbt Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 PFF is always spot on with their grades 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post David Harris Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 Means nothing. Feels good. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Green Ghost Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 27 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: JD does it again! Let’s hope not. We’re actually hoping to win more than 7 games this year. 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 We got graded on a curve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 The range on grades seems to be A to B if you figure in they have the Lions 3rd next year and Rodgers for a second, it’s probably an A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beerfish Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 4 minutes ago, Larz said: The range on grades seems to be A to B if you figure in they have the Lions 3rd next year and Rodgers for a second, it’s probably an A Rodgers is 40 and has played 4 snaps and has cost us 2 seconds and a trade down in the first, plus a huge #1 QB contract. Trading for a 3 next year seems nice but the lions will be good so it will be a late 3 and i thought we were in 'win now' mode. We traded 126 for probably around 95 next year. Picks in trades are usually valued about a full round lower if you have to wait a year for them. This was no great bargain for the jets. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Rodgers is 40 and has played 4 snaps and has cost us 2 seconds and a trade down in the first, plus a huge #1 QB contract. Trading for a 3 next year seems nice but the lions will be good so it will be a late 3 and i thought we were in 'win now' mode. We traded 126 for probably around 95 next year. Picks in trades are usually valued about a full round lower if you have to wait a year for them. This was no great bargain for the jets. It was a pretty good bargain. Think of it this way - that pick pays for Hasaan Reddick, and then some. And THAT move was to win now. I'm meh on this draft class, but the trade back a year was a solid move. JDs round 4 was confusing but that was the most sensible move of the bunch (given that we took another RB later) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 I think the grade was mostly for the value and trade downs and the trade for next years third. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 minute ago, Mr. Rogers said: It was a pretty good bargain. Think of it this way - that pick pays for Hasaan Reddick, and then some. And THAT move was to win now. I'm meh on this draft class, but the trade back a year was a solid move. JDs round 4 was confusing but that was the most sensible move of the bunch (given that we took another RB later) You can go a long long long ways back to justify trades if you are using reddick as the reason the trade was good. We will gain about 30 spots in the draft at the price of waiting a full year. That kind of move is made by teams that are built, have won or made the playoffs and are solid all around. There were a lot of good players on the board in positions still of need. It is what it is but that is a 'we are good' move and I do not think the jets are 'we are good' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 The undisputed off season champs of the NFL since 1969 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigRy56 Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 It was a good draft. When people are building their negative cases around taking a second RB in the 5th round, it was a good weekend for Gang Green 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 9 minutes ago, Beerfish said: You can go a long long long ways back to justify trades if you are using reddick as the reason the trade was good. We will gain about 30 spots in the draft at the price of waiting a full year. That kind of move is made by teams that are built, have won or made the playoffs and are solid all around. There were a lot of good players on the board in positions still of need. It is what it is but that is a 'we are good' move and I do not think the jets are 'we are good' Can't argue with that. I certainly wouldn't have been upset if we just used the pick. I will say, I'm not sure there was any players out there who'd help us "win now" by round 4. Especially considering we got the RB we needed anyway (though i did want Jalen Wright). I'd hear an argument for WR but at the same time, that'd be the 4th or 5th WR on the depth chart. A 3rd next year will seem a hell of a lot sexier when everyone is glad we still have 2 picks on day 2, unlike this year where missing the 2nd kinda hurt. I understand being bitter about the trade but personally I think it was wise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 20 minutes ago, Beerfish said: You can go a long long long ways back to justify trades if you are using reddick as the reason the trade was good. We will gain about 30 spots in the draft at the price of waiting a full year. That kind of move is made by teams that are built, have won or made the playoffs and are solid all around. There were a lot of good players on the board in positions still of need. It is what it is but that is a 'we are good' move and I do not think the jets are 'we are good' While I don't endorse this view (and I'm not saying you do, either) - consider this too. If you REALLLLLY hated JD and his admittedly subpar drafting skills, at least you could take solace in the fact that it might be another GM taking this pick haha. I doubt it, but who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 28 minutes ago, Beerfish said: You can go a long long long ways back to justify trades if you are using reddick as the reason the trade was good. We will gain about 30 spots in the draft at the price of waiting a full year. That kind of move is made by teams that are built, have won or made the playoffs and are solid all around. There were a lot of good players on the board in positions still of need. It is what it is but that is a 'we are good' move and I do not think the jets are 'we are good' I’m looking forward to seeing all these fourth round studs he passed on in this draft to get a top 100 pick next year. I get that trashing JD is your thing, but all the analytics dudes will tell you that there’s no better move in the draft than trading for future picks. I also don’t see all these needs. Honestly, didn’t see a ton of roster spots. That’s a killer move in the late fourth round. Even if there was a big need, you’re not likely to fill many starting roles (outside of maybe RB) with a fourth round pick. I’d’ve been really happy with an IOL late, for instance, but that’s a role they can fill with a cheap vet. Reddick has nothing to do with it for me. Jets get their third rounder next year but don’t owe one to the Eagles until 2026. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 7 minutes ago, slats said: I’m looking forward to seeing Reddick has nothing to do with it for me. Jets get their third rounder next year but don’t owe one to the Eagles until 2026. This is definitely fair, I just like thinking of it that way. We got a "free" fourth and fifth rounder moving back to 11, and turned one into the equivalent value for Reddick, and the other helped us move up for Corley. Also, I was a bit disappointed JD sacrificed a pick in the potential post-Rodgers era, so it was a bit of karmic balance to me. Obviously the two trades aren't directly linked, but I'm glad management is looking at both now and the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: JD does it again! Isn’t that something @Joe W. Namath Says? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 1 hour ago, SickJetFan said: PFF = Pff = home made Jacuzzi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 16 minutes ago, slats said: I’m looking forward to seeing all these fourth round studs he passed on in this draft to get a top 100 pick next year. I get that trashing JD is your thing, but all the analytics dudes will tell you that there’s no better move in the draft than trading for future picks. I also don’t see all these needs. Honestly, didn’t see a ton of roster spots. That’s a killer move in the late fourth round. Even if there was a big need, you’re not likely to fill many starting roles (outside of maybe RB) with a fourth round pick. I’d’ve been really happy with an IOL late, for instance, but that’s a role they can fill with a cheap vet. Reddick has nothing to do with it for me. Jets get their third rounder next year but don’t owe one to the Eagles until 2026. People also seem to totally discount that the 3rd rounder next year could be used as a bargaining chip before the trade deadline. Getting the future 3rd was great. The only questionable trade was giving up one of the 4th’s for two 5th round comp picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 3 minutes ago, Mr. Rogers said: This is definitely fair, I just like thinking of it that way. We got a "free" fourth and fifth rounder moving back to 11, and turned one into the equivalent value for Reddick, and the other helped us move up for Corley. Also, I was a bit disappointed JD sacrificed a pick in the potential post-Rodgers era, so it was a bit of karmic balance to me. Obviously the two trades aren't directly linked, but I'm glad management is looking at both now and the future. Rosen accepted that pick because a 2026 third rounder is far more likely to be an asset over the long haul than a 2025 fourth rounder or fifth rounder this year - picks that were considered equal in value, trade-wise, before the draft. Conversely, trading a fourth rounder this year for a third next year will be far more likely to be a more valuable player over the long haul. Unless you had some can’t miss player in your sights in the fourth round this year (please, tell me who!), it’s a good bet that the Jets should be able to get a better player in the third next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 1 minute ago, Untouchable said: The only questionable trade was giving up one of the 4th’s for two 5th round comp picks. I liked that one better than trading down beyond the chart value for a sixth. At least that one matched the value. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 11 minutes ago, slats said: Rosen accepted that pick because a 2026 third rounder is far more likely to be an asset over the long haul than a 2025 fourth rounder or fifth rounder this year - picks that were considered equal in value, trade-wise, before the draft. Conversely, trading a fourth rounder this year for a third next year will be far more likely to be a more valuable player over the long haul. Unless you had some can’t miss player in your sights in the fourth round this year (please, tell me who!), it’s a good bet that the Jets should be able to get a better player in the third next year. Agreed. I don't fully subscribe to the "next year's picks are worth a round less" theory either, especially going down even more rounds in further future years. I think it's more of a way for GMs to remind themselves that trading bonanzas of picks for future years is less perfect than it sounds on paper. And that trading players now for future picks may not yield the payoff you'd imagine due to the emphasis on succeeding NOW in every NFL year (and the unintended negative impacts of losing, such as less free agency pullor ability to re sign players). But in isolated cases, moving one way or the other (future or past) is pretty equivalent to me. Always take value if it's there. But I'm just an armchair gm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 When your roster is no longer a dumpster fire, this is how drafts look. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 What day is the divisional round? Going to need a hotel room near Jetlife Saturday night and Sunday night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Divisional Round: Jan 18-19, 2025. best hotel in the area ? best TEC sandwich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, David Harris said: Means nothing. Feels good. In 50+ years I've followed the team I think we've won every pre-season.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Stiggers has really good size for the position and spent a year playing against good competition on a larger field in the CFL. I think he looks like an excellent find who can possibly replace DJ Reed and allow us to save money or take over as the slot if MC becomes too expensive. The real wildcard is Jordan Travis. I really dont care about his injury or his age. If he sits for 2 years, he would be a 26 year old starter which is fine. Everyone knows how good a runner he is, but he also has excellent mechanics and protected the ball well in his last 2 seasons. The negatives are arm strength (overrated trait), the injury, propensity to take sacks and sometimes force the ball. While I dont have much faith in Hackett to develop anyone, Rogers should be able to have a good influence on him and maybe allow Travis to out-play his projection and actually become a starter. If not, we could have a solid backup who can run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, Green Ghost said: Let’s hope not. We’re actually hoping to win more than 7 games this year. Winning seasons here are like what hole in ones are like in your world. Few, far between and now Im not even sure they exist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Bad news guys. Cynthia Frelund and Bucky brooks graded the AFCE and the jets got the highest grade , B+. I don’t know how you guys are going to be able to handle the mental challenges of seeing the Jets receiving praise and success and winning. It’s going to be tough but I believe in you. In the first too early mock draft it looks like the Jets are not expected to suck. what do you figure is a good budget for 4 to go to a playoff game with a hotel room? 3k ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: You can go a long long long ways back to justify trades if you are using reddick as the reason the trade was good. We will gain about 30 spots in the draft at the price of waiting a full year. That kind of move is made by teams that are built, have won or made the playoffs and are solid all around. There were a lot of good players on the board in positions still of need. It is what it is but that is a 'we are good' move and I do not think the jets are 'we are good' Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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