SAR I Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Cautiously pessimistic. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I don't think we've seen much from Bowles yet on defense. The Enunwa for Amaro swap might be a godsend, Enunwa looks to be a pretty tough SOB which amps up the offenses physicality. Marshall & Decker are the most "professional" WRs we've had in some time. Both work much harder than Edwards or Holmes. Plus they are the biggest duo in the NFL right now I believe? It's all about our start, if we can get some early wins while the team jells, we could be in for an exciting season when Richardson returns. I don't care what anyone says, you put Shel, Mo, Snacks, Leo, Douzable together with our secondary, 3rd & longs are not gonna be fun vs that bunch. The 2nd game vs the Colts will tell us a lot of where we stand. Prime time game for the NY Jets & Todd Bowles to let everyone know if the Jets are pretenders or contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Haha. The second time in my life I have ever seen that word in writing. The first was when I read Lolita. Ready? Turgid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Around the same. 7-9 wins. OL has played very well this preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Ready? Turgid. Meh . . . reminds me of this classic (and ludicrous) ad. Tumescent is Dr. J and Turgid is Rick Barry . . . only if Rick shot an 6-foot floater instead of a "30 footer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 New front office gave us a great offseason, tempered by a stupid suspension, the punch and too many injuries in camp, so I have mixed feelings about this season, hoping to see Jets play competent football and play meaningful games in December Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Brandon Marshall is the best Jets WR since Toon. Chris Ivory looks great. Fitz is adequate. Offense should be best since Vinny years. Nobody will run on our D. Pass rush looks solid. DBs are deep. Coples is underrated. Pryor and Davis scare me. Defense s/b top 10, maybe top 5. Playoff contenders. Fun year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 My outlook has basically remained the same. Our win total will be based onwhether we get "clean and efficient" QB play. If Fitzpatrick remains thestarter we'll be in the 8-10 win range. If Smith becomes the starter we'llbe in the 6-11 win range. Fitzpatrick due to his physical limitations hasthe "higher floor yet the lower ceiling". Smith is the wildcard because hisphysical skills could get us more wins but his inconsistent mental skillscould make us worse. Other keys/observations: - The running game has the chance to be devastating. The small glimpses we'veseen of the chemistry between the OLine and Ivory has been exciting - Our big WR's will allow us to create mismatches in the short/intermediatepassing game. Can our QB be accurate enough to get them the ball and allowthem to create YAC? As we've seen in the pre-season, safe 5 yard passes canbe turned into 15-20 yard gains by Marshall & Decker - When the opposition creeps up to stop the run and the intermediate passeswill our QB be able to deliver the ball downfield and make them pay? - Defensively I know what I'm going to get from the DLine and the CB's. Mydefensive keys revolve around specific players. Will Davis, Coples and Pryorfinally show up this year or will they be replaced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 I don't think we've seen much from Bowles yet on defense. The Enunwa for Amaro swap might be a godsend, Enunwa looks to be a pretty tough SOB which amps up the offenses physicality. Marshall & Decker are the most "professional" WRs we've had in some time. Both work much harder than Edwards or Holmes. Plus they are the biggest duo in the NFL right now I believe? It's all about our start, if we can get some early wins while the team jells, we could be in for an exciting season when Richardson returns. I don't care what anyone says, you put Shel, Mo, Snacks, Leo, Douzable together with our secondary, 3rd & longs are not gonna be fun vs that bunch. The 2nd game vs the Colts will tell us a lot of where we stand. Prime time game for the NY Jets & Todd Bowles to let everyone know if the Jets are pretenders or contenders. The start this season is VERY important. Totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'm feeling the Jets have a pretty darn good shot at beating the Browns week 1 and heading into Monday Night Football against the Colts with confidence. 1 week at a time fellas. That week two matchup is going to be very telling. The Jets are all about the DLine and Secondary. Those are the two things you need to beat a QB like Luck. For whatever reason I never had confidence with Rex's defenses in those situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 My outlook has basically remained the same. Our win total will be based onwhether we get "clean and efficient" QB play. If Fitzpatrick remains thestarter we'll be in the 8-10 win range. If Smith becomes the starter we'llbe in the 6-11 win range. Fitzpatrick due to his physical limitations hasthe "higher floor yet the lower ceiling". Smith is the wildcard because hisphysical skills could get us more wins but his inconsistent mental skillscould make us worse. Other keys/observations: - The running game has the chance to be devastating. The small glimpses we'veseen of the chemistry between the OLine and Ivory has been exciting - Our big WR's will allow us to create mismatches in the short/intermediatepassing game. Can our QB be accurate enough to get them the ball and allowthem to create YAC? As we've seen in the pre-season, safe 5 yard passes canbe turned into 15-20 yard gains by Marshall & Decker - When the opposition creeps up to stop the run and the intermediate passeswill our QB be able to deliver the ball downfield and make them pay? - Defensively I know what I'm going to get from the DLine and the CB's. Mydefensive keys revolve around specific players. Will Davis, Coples and Pryorfinally show up this year or will they be replaced? Good post. The part that I bolded is so important. It is going to be about adjustments. I think Gailey has a good plan of attack for this offense. But how will the adjust when needed? I am on the same page with the QBs as well. Geno has a lower floor and a higher ceiling. My hope is that Fitz wins a bunch of games early on and Geno has to earn whatever he is given going forwarded. No more handouts to the QB. In a weird way the best case scenario might be Fitz doing well and then Geno getting a short look after a minor injury. Like Fitz has to miss one game. Geno gets a one game shot to show that he has matured. Just don't want them to hand him anything. I think the most telling thing is how there is less panic now that Geno is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 if the defense is as good as it should be we will be a playoff contender. offensively we have a bunch of weapons for the first time in a long time. as long as Fitz doesn't try to do too much we should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Ok so this season we have Idzik to thank for Decker, Ivory, Richardson, and Enunwa, and not much else but these guys are a solid base. Next, Mac brought us Marshal, Fitz, and the DBs, Carpenter, and Stacy. Plus most of his draftees look very solid. He also brought us Bowles/Gaily. I’m not worried about our D at all. We’ve got the horses and the CS. Enough said Gaily so far has been everything “they” said he was. He’s getting the most out of the offense that’s been assembled for him and has been getting more out of the likes of Geno and Enunwa than I expected. So, what’s not to like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 We can't ask Fitzy to win games, it has to be a team effort. If Bowles can call defenses that create TOs that may be enough to get out to a good start, so as Devin comes back, guys start getting healthy, Sheldon returns, defense starts getting a little nasty & offense starts punching people in the mouth you just never know. There are a lot of finesse teams out there & 2 of the best defenses reside right in our division with Miami & Buffalo. I love having a veteran like Fitz vs the Bills, compared to the Bills having a novice QB vs our Jet defense. Stop the run, keep the QB contained & show him all kinds of looks on 3rd down! I love our chances. Now the wildcard is Miami. Is everyone overrating them again? Geno tore up that secondary & now they lost Dumas for the year. I think Miami matches up better vs the Pats than our Jets. Which is great because we need the Fins & Bills to at least split with the Pats this year. Jets have the best secondary in the division. If the Bills, Pats, Fins have ANY injuries they will be screwed, especially the Pats if they don't get a pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I think we'll still be in contention by week 15. Best I can say right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 That week two matchup is going to be very telling. The Jets are all about the DLine and Secondary. Those are the two things you need to beat a QB like Luck. For whatever reason I never had confidence with Rex's defenses in those situations. The Colts are still a soft team. Did Tom Brady even throw the ball in that playoff game? The Pats just dominated them at the LOS. luck is no different than any other QB when you get a lead & CONTROL THE BALL. It gets them out of sync, forces them to trust too much in their arms & leads to TOs. Obviously we won't win a shootout Luck vs Fitz, but if we could get our run game going, Ivory could have a MONSTER GAME like Blount had. It's always the same story, the opposing QB can't do sh*t sitting on his hands on the bench watching. The other true axiom in the NFL is that a stout defense & running game can travel anywhere. Get a lead, play run the ball & pitch & catch for 1st downs with Decker & Marshall & run the freaking clock out. Now if Luck comes out hot & drops a quick 10 on us rut roh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I think the division is better from the bottom up and so divisional wins will be hard to come by. Given the player losses I expected the Patriots to have a down year this year even before the Brady stuff, The defense will continue to keep us in most games if not all of the games and I expect Fitz will not be turning the ball over so much. I also expect competent coaching on game day so all of those factors point to an improvement from the Jets. I am going to cross my fingers and hope for 9 or 10 wins and a potential divisional title but an early exit in the playoffs. The one thing I think will be a mortal lock is that the Patriots will not be running away with the division again this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I think that for the first time in a long time Pats fans will have to sweat out the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 All depends on qb play - I'm not real confident - 7-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Very excited fk'n liar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flushing Roots Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I am happy during the first six games after a quick bathroom break I won't hear Geno threw a pick 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Before reading any of the replies I was thinking about this thread earlier today and what does max mean by "How we feeling?" . My sense is one of disconnect, I have no idea what this Jets team will be like, what the coaching staff will be like, how good or bad this team will be. I really have no idea and this is the first time I can say that since the mid-90's in those dark days before the internet and the boards and all the coverage that we have today. Back in those days we'd catch 2, maybe 4 games a years down here on TV and the rest was buying the 2nd day old Daily News and NY Post papers at a south Florida newsstand to read what happened on Tuesday about what happened during Sunday's game. It's strange I feel like I don't even know who 3/4 of these players even are. A lot of that has to be blamed on the worst GM in this teams long history, the worst drafting of perhaps any team since Mike Ditka's farce with Ricky Williams. We used to always at least get to know the draft classes for a couple of years but the past 2, how many are even going to be on this team? So yea, that's how I feel disconnected to the 2015 Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Now after reading all the replies, I can add hopeful to the disconnect, who knows we may just BE that team of destiny, we might get those 2-3 calls that change games in our favor maybe the ball bounces up into our defender's hands and we win another one like that, maybe the 2015 Jets all get healthy after Thanksgiving and go on a 9 game winning streak into the beginning of February. It could happen, hell, I've SEEN it happen, and it actually happened to the Jets and they WON a Super Bowl, they can do it again, you need luck and you need breaks from the crooked officials too. It could be our turn and wouldn't that be wonderful? So yea, I'm saying Super Bowl Champions and I'm the first one to do it so mark it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevys Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I think how Bowles turns out will have a big bearing on this team. The passing game looks like an instant upgrade over last season, and the defense has to be as good if not better. If Bowles can coach worth a lick he's an instant upgrade over Wrecks and that should be good for a win or two. Hope so, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 well, if we got the "butt fumble" out of the way in august with the punch heard round the world and sheldumbs chicanery, this team can be just good enough to tease us sounds bout right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 This heat has given me swamp-ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I'm feeling like I need an interview from Dianna Russini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Jimmy has a positive feeling? I am scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Jimmy has a positive feeling? I am scared. I just watched the game this morning Dom, they look pretty good to me. I'll tell you now, if we can just keep that QB standing up all year, this team is going places-so glad it's not Geno behind center. Also, does anybody else have a sneaking feeling that a massive dose of karma is heading up towards Foxboro like a blizzard. I'm telling you guys-and those of you who remember how I sometimes get these "feelings" that come true? Slats? the Revis holdout and my vision... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 I just watched the game this morning Dom, they look pretty good to me. I'll tell you now, if we can just keep that QB standing up all year, this team is going places-so glad it's not Geno behind center. Jim there is no reason to make political comments here.....I removed that part, I don't want this thread to go in the wrong direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Like throwing up. You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Fitz has been playing mistake free football. We know he isn't going to put a team on his back and win it by himself. But it will be nice to have a QB that doesn't lose the game by himself on a weekly basis. The Offensive line looks like they are going to be able to run block. The defense has a lot to prove but there is talent there. Not sure how long it will take for Bowles system to kick in. How long will the learning curve be? That is the biggest question. But they seem to be building this team in a way where it doesn't matter who drafted you...the best are going to make the team and play. So the question remains, how are you feeling about this team? Everything's under control. Situation normal. We had a slight QB malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 Everything's under control. Situation normal. We had a slight QB malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you? I am good thank you for asking. I am a little upset that we had to go 3 pages before someone asked about me. But thank you for caring WarFish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyo7 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 After the draft I had high expectations but as we get close to week 1 I realize this teams talent deficit was far worse than I thought. Also lots of bad apples and horrible locker room culture that is going to need time to change I see this team starting out slow. Wouldn't be shocked if we lose to Cleveland. But as this team gels, i think we will get stronger as the season goes on with lots of hope for the future. Anywhere from 7-9 to 9-7 as long as no catastrophic injuries occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 We'll beat the Patriots the old fashioned way - by scoring more points than them in a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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