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Donahue.pngThe NY Jets selected Dylan Donahue out of West Georgia (DII). Donahue is listed as a pass rushing defensive lineman. Here is his scouting report:

STRENGTHS

His footwork and lateral quickness puts him in position to go make a play. Uses slaps and chops to batter a tackle’s punch and gain advantage on the edge. Comes off snap low and with good burst. Has flexible hips and good overall bend in lower half to unleash a more dynamic pass rush attack. Relentless forward charge that leads to second effort sacks and tackles. Pursuit continues down the field. Finds ball quickly and works to shed and tackle on time. Has range and athletic traits to transition to outside linebacker spot quickly. Posted monster production at West Georgia against run and pass. Comes from NFL bloodlines.

WEAKNESSES

Undersized and lacks NFL length. Short arms will always be a concern against tackles and tight ends with quick hands who can get into his frame first. Will struggle to take a stand and set a strong edge against NFL power. Hand usage is somewhat basic. Needs to work towards a Masters degree in hand fighting to counter his poor arm length. Has to rely on motor over power and skill to win second half of the rep. Face-up rusher who lacks desired speed-to-power element. Needs to add competent counter rush move.

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3 hours ago, detectivekimble said:

Picking some unathletic dude from a low level program hoping that he becomes an NFL pass rusher? WTF.  At least pick an unknown dude who's uber athletic and see if you can turn him into a pass rusher.

smartest post i've read in a while

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5 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Really takes the sting out of passing on Jordan Willis in much the same way that drafting Eric Smith took the sting out of passing on Ed Reed.

Mayock said this guy plays with his hair on fire, better than some workout warrior imho

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5 hours ago, bealeb319 said:

Kind of excited to see if this kid pans out, mayock said he didn't know much about this kid but when he watched some film he said that it looked like this kid plays every frigging play like his hair is on fire.

I owuld be interested to know how a guy would play if his hair was actually on fire.

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West grad Dylan Donahue carves out unique path to NFL Draft

 

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Dylan Donahue was sitting at his aunt's house in Melstone over Christmas break when his phone rang.

Josh Aldridge, his defensive line coach at the University of West Georgia, was on the other end with news. 

Great news.

Earlier that day, Aldridge received an email announcing that Donahue had been invited to participate in the 2017 NFL Scouting Combine, where the top college players in the nation showcase their skills to all 32 NFL teams before April's draft.

Upon hearing the news, Donahue became emotional.

"I kind of just started tearing up," he said. "I never thought that I would have that chance."

With his family around celebrating, the former Billings West Golden Bear also felt relieved to hear the news of this next step.

That celebration was followed with a quick realization. 

Time to get back to work.

"I really do have this shot, so I have to keep training my heart out and give it a shot," Donahue said.

Path to the draft

A 2011 West High graduate, Donahue never expected this is where life would take him. 

He said he struggled with Attention Deficit Disorder in high school, adding he didn't like the medications he was using for it so he was on and off with his meds. 

"It messed up my social life, my eating habits, made me depressed," he said. "Dealing with that in high school was a direct influence on my grades. All I wanted to do was hide in my room and not go to school.

"As a star athlete at West High, you would think that my social life would be awesome and that everyone would want to be my friend but it wasn't that way. I was super standoffish, didn't feel like talking to anybody most days. Super self-conscious about my body because I was really skinny.

"Then, being able to make the transition to college, it was a total 180. I was that tatted, white guy from Montana that no one really knew and then he starts balling out on the football field and everyone wanted to be my friend. I kind of got to experience what I didn't get to experience in high school. It really changed the way I looked at things and made me just want to work harder."

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Skyview quarterback Connor Lebsock (7) rushes away from defensive pressure by West's Dylan Donahue (49) and Ethan Abbey (55) on Friday, September 24, 2010. Donahue was invited to the NFL Combine and is the son of former NFL player Mitch Donahue. 

Donahue admitted he didn't have the grades out of high school to go where he wanted, so he redshirted his freshman year at Montana Western. Not feeling as if Dillon was the right fit, he took the next year off and worked for his dad.

A couple of Donahue's friends, Jordan Spoonemore of West and Corey Raymond of Billings Senior, then suggested he try Palomar College in San Marcos, California, a school the two of them attended.

"They were like, 'Well dude, you're good enough, why don't you go to Palomar and try it out and get another look?'," he said. "So I went out there and just made the best of it."

Donahue spent two years at Palomar and became the Southern Conference's Defensive Player of the Year as a sophomore. After that season, he said he had plenty of Division I scholarship offers, but because he would've had only one year of eligibility he instead looked for the best NCAA Division II school.

 

 

The University of West Georgia, located about 50 miles west of Atlanta in Carrollton, proved to be the perfect fit. 

"The coaches there and the program turns kids into men is really what it does," he said. "I can't be more thankful that I went there because I got closer to God and just found my purpose in life. They gave me everything I needed to work really hard and they made it clear what my goals were and all I had to do was do it for myself."

In two years at West Georgia, Donahue broke the career sacks record with 25.5. In 2016, he was Gulf South Conference Defensive Player of the Year while setting a conference- and school-record with 13.5 sacks

Preparation

As he prepares for the draft, Donahue has used his father as a frame of reference.

"He's just telling me to be me," Donahue said. "Just go out there, be yourself, work your hardest every day and not follow anyone else. Not everyday is going to be a good one but as long as you're working as hard as you possibly can then it's going to be all right. He's really been my source as far as any questions I've had to ask."

Mitch Donahue was a two-time Western Athletic Conference Defensive Player of the Year for Wyoming. A fourth-round draft pick by the San Francisco 49ers in 1991, he spent four years in the NFL before an injury ended his career. 

"(I told him) it's easy to get caught up in the game of 'Where am I going to go next year?' and trying to figure out who's going to draft (him)," Mitch said. "There's really nothing he can do about that. So I told him to stay focused, keep working out and getting yourself ready for camp so you can win a position on the team."

He said he was overcome with excitement at the news of Dylan's invitation.

"(My wife) Melissa and I got a little teared up because we knew what that meant," he said. "It's pretty incredible. He's really starting to blossom as a man and a football player. I think his best years are getting ready to come up."

At the Combine

The 2017 NFL Combine took place Feb. 28-March 6 at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis. Upon hearing his news, Donahue traveled to San Diego, where he began training for what is essentially his week-long job interview.

The experience was an eye-opener.

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Former Billings West standout and West Georgia defensive lineman Dylan Donahue (49) was drafted by the New York Jets on Saturday.

"It was humbling, but it was kind of like, I thought, that it was going to be totally different than it was," he said.

On the first day, Donahue said he was with a doctor almost all day for psychological evaluations. That was followed by time in a big room he called "the train station", where all 32 teams had coaches and scouts. Players would interview and rotate to the next table. 

"You'd do like five to 10 interviews a night, depending on who you were," he said. "I probably did seven interviews a night and talked to all 32 teams in a matter of four days.

"Every room has three or four teams and all of their doctors there. You're sitting on this table in front of, like, 20 doctors and they're just looking at you trying to find stuff wrong with you. They'll throw MRIs at you just because they can just to see if anything is wrong.

"I ended up with an MRI on my left knee and my neck -- which I've never injured either of them -- but they just had to know just in case. They really spend a lot of money just trying to find out what they're paying for, you know, and what they're getting. They want to see the product that they're getting so they really don't hold anything back."

Donahue said the thoroughness of those physical exams surprised him.

"It was a real life meat market I felt like," he said, laughing. "Just being processed through this little process."

Weigh-ins also stood out. Bleachers packed with 300-plus coaches and scouts wrapped around a small stage where height, weight, arms and hands were measured. 

They'd call out his measurements, and Donahue said he could see scouts writing. He measured out at 6-foot-3 and 248 pounds.

"It was really intense," he said, laughing again. "I almost forgot how to walk for a second. It was like, jeez. It was really insane."

Donahue said that during breaks fans asked for his autograph. He signed a few, but his agent warned him to stop because most were trying to profit off him. 

"I had no idea," he said. 

Donahue took the Wonderlic Test, another intelligence test, as well. Overall, Donahue said he took about 12 psychological tests that measured traits such as knowledge and reaction.

 

Interviews would consist of Donahue meeting with entire coaching staffs. They'd view film of him and ask questions about his defense and responsibilities. Then they'd break down the defense they run and they'd test him on what he knew. 

Down time was scarce until after the fourth day. He visited the Nike, Under Armour and Adidas suites, where he could get free gear. 

 

"I left with like three giant bags of stuff," he said. "Some of it I'll probably never wear."

NFL.com graded Donahue at a 5.39, which the website defines as "NFL backup or special teams potential."

Overall, Donahue said, he was pleased with his Combine. 

"All people see is what's on TV," he said. "Then they're like 'Oh, well he didn't do very good and well he did pretty good.' It's like you have no idea what we've just been through."

Next steps

When Donahue left the Combine, he received an invitation from the Chicago Bears, where he met with head coach John Fox. 

Donahue enjoyed his conversation, saying the one-on-one interview was a nice change of pace. 

"At the formal meetings they don't really tell you a lot because they want you to feel awkward and uncomfortable," he said. "The meeting with the Bears was really cool."

Before the Combine, Donahue said he had workouts with the Buffalo Bills and New York Jets. 

Donahue said plenty of scouts said he was "fun to watch", a compliment they tell him is the highest they can give a player. 

"The thing I was hearing the most was my motor is what is going to get me to the next level," he said. 

Donahue played defensive line in college and trained as one at the Combine, but unlike his father, who played defensive end at Wyoming, Donahue will transition to linebacker.

"I'll be standing up instead of putting my hand in the dirt," he said, laughing.

Leading up to the draft, Donahue has been working at Ultimate 48 Fitness in Atlanta with some of his West Georgia teammates. He's also been in talks with current NFL players.

"Just trying to pick everyone's brain and get a feel for how it's going to be this first year," he said.

Dylan Donahue has flown under the radar throughout his career.

For him, he'd have it no other way.

"I'm glad it happened that way," he said. "I believe that everything happens for a reason, and that I had to work extra hard than most people that just get to a four-year. They didn't have to take the steps that I had to take to get to where I'm at.

"I'm thankful that I did go through that because now I have a chance to help other kids that are maybe struggling with the same issues that I was in high school."

The NFL Draft will begin April 27. 

Donahue will be back home in Billings to watch it unfold.

"I am (looking forward to coming back)," Donahue said. "Get a little break, some time off."

And hopefully, like in Melstone, a phone call with good news.

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2 hours ago, jack48 said:

I owuld be interested to know how a guy would play if his hair was actually on fire.

Two things concern me:

(1) he has long hair, it could burn for a while

(2) his "T-Rex" arms are too short to put his hair fire out

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1 hour ago, ID. said:

Two things concern me:

(1) he has long hair, it could burn for a while

(2) his "T-Rex" arms are too short to put his hair fire out

In all seriousness, he's not meant to be a starter, let alone a regular in the defensive rotation. He's most likely a niche role player that can be an ACE special teamer and a sub-package OLB blitzer on third downs IF he gets a clean & unhindered shot to the QB without an OT getting its paws on him. It's CHEAP depth that can hopefully yield some key plays (ST tackles over the season, key drive-killing sack every 7 games, an occasional 3rd down TFL, etc.) that contributes on the field but also has the Motor and Toughness that this team lacked in'16. The current administration seems to be focusing on those traits as they re-stock the cupboard and instill a new attitude and team culture with their players: Tough, Hard Working, (some) Self-Made w/No Off-field issues. 

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** In Bold are the portions referring to our draft 5th round pick Div II DE to OLB convert D. Donahue.**

 

After tearing up D-II, two West Georgia long shots are trying to crash the NFL draft

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  • In the shadow of national college football powers, two overlooked players arrived at the University of West Georgia and found a team where they could grow into stars. Now both Dylan Donahue and Alex Armah are trying to convince NFL teams to take a chance on them.

To get to the University of West Georgia in tiny Carrollton, Alex Armah had to drive 88 miles from his parents’ house in Dacula, Ga. Dylan Donahue, meanwhile, had to go on a cross-country odyssey that included an NAIA school, a lost season spent on multiple roofs and a junior college. But once Armah and Donahue became teammates at West Georgia in 2015, they clicked immediately. Now, they’re fighting to get drafted—and neither of them expects to play defensive end again.

Donahue is the undersized pass rusher who likely would have starred at the Division I level had he not taken a circuitous path. Armah, meanwhile, earned all-conference honors on both sides of the ball as a senior and has NFL teams evaluating him as a fullback, a linebacker or both.

The story of how West Georgia’s dynamic duo came together begins in 2011 with a teen in Billings, Mont., who couldn’t concentrate and couldn’t stay out of his own way. Donahue had always hoped to follow in the footsteps of his father Mitch, the former Wyoming star who won the WAC defensive player of the year in ’89 and ’90 and who led the nation in sacks in ’90 with 22. The 49ers selected Mitch in the fourth round of the ’91 draft, and he played two years in San Francisco and two years in Denver. After football, he opened his own roofing company. Dylan used to watch VHS tapes of his father as a pro and dream of someday chasing quarterbacks for a living. But as Dylan’s graduation from Billings West High drew closer, it became apparent he didn’t have the grades to play Division I football.

Dylan had struggled with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder and struggled even more with multiple medications used to treat it. Ritalin hadn’t worked. Neither had Strattera. Neither had Adderall. The condition made concentration impossible, and the medications just made him depressed. “My social life took a toll in high school,” Dylan said. “I was kind of an outcast. I didn’t really talk to anyone but my teammates and my girlfriend.” Shut out of NCAA schools because of his grades, Dylan’s only choice to continue his football career was at Montana Western, a small NAIA school in Dillon, Mont. “They were the only ones who would take me,” he said.

Dylan didn’t help himself there, either. He got sucked into a campus culture heavy on drinking. He couldn’t be blocked at football practice, but he wasn’t doing anything in the classroom to get himself to an NCAA school. Frustrated, he quit after a school year and went home to work for his dad. At the time, he figured football would end there.

Armah (8) felt at home immediately at West Georgia.

Armah (8) felt at home immediately at West Georgia.

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Meanwhile, in the outer northeast suburbs of Atlanta, Armah thought he was good enough to play in the SEC or the ACC. He corresponded with Mississippi State, but the Bulldogs were only interested in him as a walk-on. Georgia Tech showed initial interest as well but faded down the stretch. Eventually, Armah wound up choosing between Gulf South Conference rivals Valdosta State and West Georgia.

He chose the Wolves and headed to Carrollton, where he redshirted as a freshman in ’12. During that year, Armah fell in love with the place. “I tried to branch out—to get to know people and get to know the community,” Armah said. “I hit the weight room hard. That’s when I started getting noticed. You start to build these bonds with your teammates. My teammates started to trust me.

While Armah spread his wings at his new school, his future teammate fell into a giant rut. Even though he’d learned most of the jobs at his father’s company, Dylan wound up with some of the worst because of his age and his experience level. “We did everything from flat, metal roofs to shingles to residential to commercial. If it was a residential house, I’d tear off the shingles. The next day we’d start putting stuff on. Then clean-up, I did a lot of clean-up because I was the young guy. … I was still the young guy so I had to still do the grunt work.”

Roofing is difficult enough, but roofing in Montana in the winter is its own brand of misery. “Right in the middle of winter, we were doing a tough job down on the Indian reservation,” Mitch Donahue said. “It was just dumping snow on us every day. We had to shovel snow and let it dry out before we could start working for the day. He was on the shovel crew, and he was pretty much hating life at that point.” After a while, Dylan had enough. “One day I was driving my dad’s work van—which I hated driving,” he said. “I was just looking around. Is this really what I want to do with my life? Do I really want to stop and join the rest of my friends that are out here just working? … I’m just wasted talent.

So Dylan began seeking a way to get back to college and back to football. Some older friends provided the answer. They had played at Palomar Community College in San Marcos, Calif., between San Diego and the Orange County line. “There were guys getting D-I scholarships,” Dylan said. “They’re like, ‘You’re better than them. You should try it.’” It sounded like paradise to Dylan, and the reality was even better.

Dylan thrived in California. A tutor helped him manage his ADHD without medication. His grades rose, and so did his profile on the field. In his second season at Palomar, Dylan led the team with 22 tackles for loss. Suddenly, schools in Divisions I and II were interested. The scene after practice and games wasn’t so bad, either. “It’s surreal. And then going to the beach and hanging out after. It made it easy for me,” Dylan said. “There was eye candy. There was stuff to look at. There was no bad mood. It was like I was in a dream world.”

West Georgia knew what it had in Donahue: "When you understand the NCAA rules, you can kind of understand who is going to fall through the cracks."

West Georgia knew what it had in Donahue: "When you understand the NCAA rules, you can kind of understand who is going to fall through the cracks."

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Meanwhile, in Georgia, Alex started at middle linebacker for the Wolves as a redshirt freshman in 2013. After that season, West Georgia head coach/athletic director Daryl Dickey became just athletic director Daryl Dickey. The Wolves hired North Alabama coach Will Hall to take over, and Hall’s staff had other plans for Armah—who had grown from 6' 1" and 220 pounds to almost 250—beginning in the spring of ’14.

“We talked him into moving to defensive end,” said Hall, who coached the Wolves for three seasons before becoming Louisiana-Lafayette’s offensive coordinator in January. “He wasn’t that fired up about it, but he was a team guy.” Armah may not have been excited initially, but he provided the pass rush his coaches envisioned. In his first season at defensive end, Armah had 14.5 tackles for loss, seven of them sacks. All the while, his coaches were working on landing the player who would play opposite him the next two seasons.

Dylan Donahue received interest from multiple Division I schools, including Missouri, USC and Colorado State, but that interest quickly faded for most of the schools once coaches realized Donahue wasn’t a typical junior college transfer. Because the eligibility clock for Division I begins ticking with the first full-time college enrollment, Donahue’s gap year on the roof meant he would only have one season to play in Division I. West Georgia coaches knew this. “When you understand the NCAA rules,” Wolves defensive line coach Josh Aldridge said, “you can kind of understand who is going to fall through the cracks.”

West Georgia hoped the 6' 3", 248-pound Donahue would fall to them. “He’s relentless,” Aldridge said. “He plays harder than anybody I’ve ever seen. I mean anybody—anybody I’ve ever seen on Sunday. It’s like his heart is going to stop.” He also plays like a certain former Wyoming star. “It is freaky,” Mitch Donahue said. “We both had different coaches. He’s built a little different than me. He’s definitely faster than I was. But if you watch us on tape, if the jerseys were the same, you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.”

Donahue also considered Colorado State-Pueblo, which had beaten the Wolves in the Division II semifinals in 2014. He visited Colorado State-Pueblo, but when a coach there tried to discourage him from visiting West Georgia, Donahue decided he needed to research the Wolves more thoroughly. He loved what he saw from their defense, and he signed to play for Hall and Aldridge. Once in Carrollton, he teamed with Armah for the first time. “We clicked immediately,” Armah said.

As their coaches had predicted, Donahue and Armah proved a ferocious tandem. In ’15, they combined for 32 tackles for loss — 21 of them sacks — and the Wolves reached the Division II semifinals again.

After starring as an end tandem, Donahue and Armah both know they

After starring as an end tandem, Donahue and Armah both know they'll have to learn new positions to stick in the NFL.

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Before spring practice last year, Armah and the coaches huddled. Armah joked that since he had proven so adept at the swinging gate two-point conversion play and since the Wolves were in need of tight ends and fullbacks, perhaps he should get a look at those positions. After all, he’d played both in high school. Hall was intrigued. After three years as a starter, Armah didn’t need any reps at defensive end in spring practice to play the position effectively in the fall. “What’s he going to do in spring ball besides get hurt?” Hall thought. Then he thought some more. “Tell you what he could do…”

What Armah could do, apparently, was everything. He could set the edge as a tight end and blow open holes as a fullback, and he didn’t care if he got the ball or just blocked. “He’s a natural,” Hall said. Last fall, Armah was a first-team All-Gulf South Conference defensive end and a second-team tight end. Donahue was the league’s defensive player of the year.

As the season ended and the time came to prepare for a potential pro career, Armah faced a question: Where should he try to play? He figures he’s too small to be a 4–3 defensive end, so his main college position is probably out. But the answer is easy to figure out after asking Armah one question.

Which of the following feels the best?

A) Scoring a touchdown.

B) Sacking the quarterback.

C) Making a huge tackle on defense.

D) Obliterating a linebacker with a lead block.

“If that collision happens in the hole with that ’backer, I love that,” Armah said. “I live for that.”

Armah expects that an NFL team likely would use him as a fullback or H-back who can play on every special teams unit. But he has pitched a role that must seem like catnip for coaches. “A lot of NFL teams don’t use a fullback as much,” Armah says. “I could see myself getting those eight to 10 snaps as a fullback and dominating on special teams while also maybe backing up the Mike linebacker.”

 

So can Donahue or Armah get drafted? It’s possible, Hall said. It’s just as likely that neither gets drafted and they sign free-agent deals and try to prove their worth in camp. Donahue likely will need to play as a 3–4 outside linebacker. His performance at the combine (4.75-second 40-yard dash, 26 reps at 225 pounds on the bench press) didn’t send him shooting up draft boards, but it also didn’t disqualify him. Besides, scouts know him. Thirty-one of 32 NFL teams visited West Georgia to see Donahue and Armah. “We’ve even had a scout bring his own son to a game to see him play,” Hall said of Donahue. “He literally plays like his hair is on fire.”

Armah didn’t get invited to the combine, but his pro day numbers (4.68-second 40, 26 reps, 34.5-inch vertical jump) should help. His bench press total would have made him the second-strongest back at the combine behind Oklahoma’s Samaje Perine, and his 40 time stacks up favorably against pure fullbacks such as Florida State’s Freddie Stevenson.

The road from Division II in the NFL is a little tougher, but it can be traversed. At West Alabama, Hall coached cornerback Malcolm Butler, whose interception sealed the win for the Patriots in Super Bowl XLIX. “All you can ask for is a chance,” Hall said. “You get in there as a free agent in a camp situation, the NFL is a business. They’re going to keep the best 53 players.” Aldridge believes his players could be a bargain on the draft’s final day. “Both of them will be the steals of the lower end of the draft,” Aldridge said. “I don’t see how you’re going to find anyone who plays harder than Dylan Donahue, and I don’t see how you’re going to find a better do-it-all player than Alex Armah.”

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Just now, JoJoTownsell1 said:

I don't know why this team didn't draft a franchise QB or elite edge rusher instead....

cuz . . . . there were none of the former and a paucity of the latter by the times we picked. 

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4 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Really takes the sting out of passing on Jordan Willis in much the same way that drafting Eric Smith took the sting out of passing on Ed Reed.

Mac is a complete idiot.  There's actually a chance that Jordan Willis turns into a double digit sack man in the pros.  There's little to no chance that Stewart turns into a #1 WR.

Adams, Cook, Willis.  Was that so ******* hard?

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10 minutes ago, KRL said:

I said it before and this confirms it, Kevin Greene was a driving force behind this pick.

Listen to Bowles interview:

http://www.newyorkjets.com/videos/videos/Todd-Bowles-We-Brought-in-a-lot-of-Toughness/e41b9503-7f82-4a30-b14a-5ed3e345cb76

Nothing in that video confirmed that Greene was behind this pick, Bowles basically stated that the kid is a football player, a warrior who has a high motor with an old school mentality kinda like a Kevin Greene, their OLB coach.

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5 hours ago, jetsons said:

Nothing in that video confirmed that Greene was behind this pick, Bowles basically stated that the kid is a football player, a warrior who has a high motor with an old school mentality kinda like a Kevin Greene, their OLB coach.

They drafted some HUNGRY players and I think Donahue will be a solid ST player and the type of "FIRED UP" kamikaze football player that teams need as part of their identity. 

If anyone bothers to read the 2 long articles I posted earlier, the kid has DRIVE, NFL bloodlines, and took the Looooong HARD road to reach the NFL. He reminds me, petulant jokes aside, of the IK Enemkpali pick:  a stout HIGH MOTOR mighty might who'll die trying to sack the QB. 

Bowles and Mac are drafting players that seem tougher on the field and ARE SO due to their road to get to the NFL. Young HUNGRY CHEAP players w/a chip on their shoulders (like the Michigan CB)  who will be the CORE and DEPTH to this Jets team. Looks promising. 

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