joewilly12 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Good move but next season we need to sacrifice a couple of spots for a KR and a PR. Jets like Versatile players, but we need guys that are good in this area. And please........ Tell me we can get a better Punter Good point the fact that we cut Walter Powell after a great pre season made me wonder when we never replaced him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBBound Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Seriously, this is great news...cutting Coples, firing assistant coaches after 1 year....I am very high on Bowles and Mac - they know what they want and what they don't...buckle up because I think this offseason will have more twists and surprises than we have had in a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Good point the fact that we cut Walter Powell after a great pre season made me wonder when we never replaced him. I'm sure they cut Powell with tons of input from April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Special teams were so bad this year. No way they didn't shake this up. Will be nice next year to have a new start on special teams. And return the coordinators on offense and defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Jeff Weeks still has a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Good move but next season we need to sacrifice a couple of spots for a KR and a PR. Jets like Versatile players, but we need guys that are good in this area. And please........ Tell me we can get a better Punter we don't need a kick returner specialist. If we have someone like CRO who can do it (it not cut) great otherwise down the ball. Punt retuner is a different story. That we Need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Good move but next season we need to sacrifice a couple of spots for a KR and a PR. Jets like Versatile players, but we need guys that are good in this area. And please........ Tell me we can get a better Punter Word. If anyone watched that Seahawks-Cardinals game, that Tyler Lockett dude almost single-handedly killed the Cardinals with his returns. It's such a low-cost way to dramatically win and lose games that there's really no excuse to have bad special teams play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 we don't need a kick returner specialist. If we have someone like CRO who can do it (it not cut) great otherwise down the ball. Punt retuner is a different story. That we Need Cro didnt even try on kick returns this year. Him and Kerley both knew they were gone after the year and didnt want to risk getting hurt on returns. They totally half-assed every return they had. Neither ran hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Just shows again what having mostly horrible drafts from 2010-2014 can do to a team. Coach had to go, but our talent on specials really slipped. This is what happens when you have year after year after year of subpar drafts. The talent at the back end of the roster was weakened and hence ST play suffered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Cro didnt even try on kick returns this year. Him and Kerley both knew they were gone after the year and didnt want to risk getting hurt on returns. They totally half-assed every return they had. Neither ran hard. What was Kerleys excuse the other 2-years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 A good punter is worth the money, cut Kerley & give Shane Lechler his freaking salary! Don't be surprised if Mac is thinking the same thing. How many games did we watch this year where we punted from our 20 & Quigley would kick it 35 yards, then the defense would hold but the opposing punter would BOMB a 50 yarder with Kerley calling for a fair catch, AGAIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 What was Kerleys excuse the other 2-years? He's never been very good at it, but this year was by far the most opportunities he's gotten to return punts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I'm sure they cut Powell with tons of input from April. Ok then blame Bowles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I'm sorry some people lost thier jobs. But as a fan this is pleasantly surprising. Thought for sure they'd get a 'growing pains' year or whatever. Glad to see Mac and Bowles aren't messing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 The ST was most definitely our team's weakest link.Good move Sent from my SM-G920W8 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Ok then blame Bowles? Nothing in what I said indicated that Bowles should be blamed. HCs get input on who to keep or not from position coaches, But you've blames Bowles for everything. It's easy that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Nothing in what I said indicated that Bowles should be blamed. HCs get input on who to keep or not from position coaches, But you've blames Bowles for everything. It's easy that way He's the head coach unfortunately he gets the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 He's the head coach unfortunately he gets the blame. No one would ever blame a HC for cutting a scrub, unproven return man who's still a scrub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 No one would ever blame a HC for cutting a scrub, unproven return man who's still a scrub In most instances you are right but in this one you are wrong, special teams sucked especially in the return game and we lacked a kick returner and a punt returner which caused terrible field position all season long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 In most instances you are right but in this one you are wrong, special teams sucked especially in the return game and we lacked a kick returner and a punt returner which caused terrible field position all season long. And what makes Powell the guy who would have helped? HC asks the group who to cut all say Powell and when STs suck we blame the HC as if he cut a player who would have made STs,good. Don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Going into the season you would have thought the NFL had eliminated kickoffs and punts with the personnel we had. Kerley and Stacy? Wasnt NFL calibre. I was thinking the same thing. Makes me wonder how much of this was coaching and how much was personnel. I certainly don't object to April getting tossed, but our late-round picks have been horrendous for close to a decade, so I'm not sure we're going to see a huge improvement next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lot K Tailgaters Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 This move makes me feel better. Been disappointed since Sunday but this is a great move. The special teams was a disaster. Skip the missed field goals and shanked punts. The punt coverages and blocked punts killed us. Every time we punted I would cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Special Teams are MOSTLY coaching. There are a lot of teams with less talent and depth than the Jets with much better ST units. April was a total loser that had no clue. He should have been fired in October and some are making excuses for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Remember the good ol days when Westoff was ST coach and ST was never a bad talking point at the end of the season. How times have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 In my opinion ST players mostly fall into the "good athlete" group, not necessarily the "good player" group...with some notable exceptions. Play design is a huge factor in STs and this year our play design was very basic. Even flawed in the punt return game as I noted in another thread. A coach has to be flexible and have a certain ability to remain dynamic in getting the most from his athletes, and altering play design to keep from being exposed by film. Blocking schemes and rushes need to be altered occasionally as does alignment and personnel groups. Our STs were basic and at times flawed in design. April had to adapt or die. This is the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 This "April had no talent at the back-end of the roster" is pure crap. The back ends of NFL rosters are all about the same. Xs and Os separate return and coverage units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/57854/jets-special-teams-were-a-joke-todd-bowles-wasnt-laughing Jets' special teams were a joke; Todd Bowles wasn't laughing The New York Jets announced Wednesday night that three assistants won't return in 2016 -- special teams coordinator Bobby April, assistant special teams coach Steve Hagen and assistant offensive-line coach Ron Heller. A few takeaways: 1. If you're surprised by April's firing, you must have missed the season. The special teams were a mess throughout the year, surrendering four touchdowns -- two punt returns, a blocked punt in the end zone and a fumbled kickoff return that was returned for a score. That stinks. The Jets finished in the bottom-5 in most of the major statistical categories, including 30th in ESPN's StEPA (total expected added points by special teams). In case you're wondering, they were minus 27.7 points. 2. You wouldn't expect a 10-6 team to dump a coordinator, but it shows that Todd Bowles won't tolerate a subpar performance. April is a good man and well-respected around the league; he's been coaching special teams for nearly a quarter-century. Some head coaches would've given a mulligan, calling the season an aberration. Not Bowles. This sends a not-so-subtle message at the outset of the offseason. “After having our season-ending meetings with the staff, I decided that changes were necessary in these areas," said Bowles, who indicated Monday he wasn't planning any staff changes. 3. April didn't have a great year, but he didn't get any favors from general manager Mike Maccagnan, who compiled a roster that had no proven kickoff returners and a mediocre punt returner (Jeremy Kerley). The units also lacked youth and athleticism, although that can't be blamed on Maccagnan. The recent drafts under the previous regime failed to yield quality depth players that could help on special teams. 4. A replacement for April? Hard to say, but know this: Last year, Bowles made a run at Atlanta Falcons coordinator Keith Armstrong, a former college teammate, but was blocked by the Falcons. Armstrong's current contractual status is unclear. 5. The Jets will have their fifth special teams coach in five years. Remember when they used to be, like, good? 6. No surprise by Hagen and Heller, the only holdovers from Rex Ryan's staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Bring back Saalim Hakim!!! Let him run!!! He was waived by the Chiefs, after they used him at safety apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Bring back Westhoff!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Our special teams really affected both sides of the ball that can't be underestimated. Our offense was constantly backed up and forced to march down the field while our poor punting and tackling on specials left us always defending a shorter field. Good luck to Bobby as it sounds like he's a well respected coach but this was a move that had to be made and really speaks volumes to Bowles no nonsense attitude towards winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Our special teams really affected both sides of the ball that can't be underestimated. Our offense was constantly backed up and forced to march down the field while our poor punting and tackling on specials left us always defending a shorter field. Good luck to Bobby as it sounds like he's a well respected coach but this was a move that had to be made and really speaks volumes to Bowles no nonsense attitude towards winning. I agree; I said it before, if we want accountability in the players we have to demand it from our coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Special teams will get better when drafting gets better. It was solid this season (drafting), but your ST players come from rounds 3-7. And with the number of injuries the Jets endured, there wasn't enough roster spots to have a WR on the team that couldn't actually contribute on the field as a WR. Someone mentioned Tyler Lockett in Seattle, he's also got a lot of run at WR and made plays there. It will be on MM to get players on the roster than can do more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Jalen Saunders pick is still awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Now that we replaced the coaches, can we please, please replace the punter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 The NY JETS.... the 2015 example of how special teams is so critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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