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The Cleveland Browns have agreed to terms with linebacker Demario Davis on a two-year deal for $8 million, a source confirmed to ESPN's Rich Cimini on Wednesday.

Davis, a third-round pick in 2012, started the last three seasons for theNew York Jets at the weak-inside position in their 3-4 defense.Last season didn't end well for Davis, who finished in a platoon with Erin Henderson. They split time over the final six games, although coach Todd Bowles insisted it wasn't because he was unhappy with Davis. He couched it by saying Henderson deserved an increased role. Nevertheless, it stung Davis, an every-down linebacker in 2013 and 2014.

Davis came from a small school, Arkansas State, but the organization placed big expectations on him. On the day he was drafted, his first coach, Rex Ryan, said Davis possessed leadership qualities that reminded him of former Baltimore Ravens great Ray Lewis -- an unfair comparison.In four seasons, Davis has produced 332 tackles, 6.5 sacks, one interception and four fumble recoveries. He has no forced fumbles. He missed a team-high 16 tackles last season, according to Pro Football Focus. He also had problems in pass coverage.

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3 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

He was decent, prefer him to Harris for sure but ah well.

Harris was better than him in every facet of the game last season. Harris is slighted because he makes too much money. He is still a useful and impactful part of the defense. 

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27 minutes ago, KRL said:

Amazing how a young player who had 4.5 speed coming out of college continued to get

slower and slower.  Hopefully we get a compensatory pick for him

It's the Florham Park SLB virus at work.  (Slow-Linebacker Virus).

Any NFL LB entering the borough of Florham Park is susceptible to this airborne virus that gradually erodes a linebacker's speed.  Novartis and J&J are working on a vaccine, but it may be a few years until it is approved by the FDA and Goodell.

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35 minutes ago, KRL said:

Amazing how a young player who had 4.5 speed coming out of college continued to get

slower and slower.  Hopefully we get a compensatory pick for him

He really was the slowest 4.5 guy ever.  I don't know if he had bad instincts, and so he was always a step behind, but for a guy that fast, his range was really mediocre.

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44 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

i keep thinking about the eagles game.  just awful.  no lateral agility.

Especially considering that Bowles was yelling out to him before the snap to watch the flat and wheel routes for the RB on their big TD play. ugh....awful. Glad he's gone. WE WANT COMP PICKS!

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Look, he got 8 mil. A big surprise to most of us because Jets fans for the most part did not think he was that good. But we look for the WOW factor and the coaches look for a lot of other things that are on the film. If a guy doesn't make big plays esp sacks fans think the guy sucks. I don't discount the Browns coaching staff who gave their FO a heads up to sign him. They think he can fit into their scheme. 

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29 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

He was decent, prefer him to Harris for sure but ah well.

Harris is a much better tackler and has much better instincts.  The problem is having 2 slow ILB's in our scheme.  One slow guy is acceptable, but we need to pair with Harris an athletic ILB who can drop back in pass coverage.  That would be a fine duo. 

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Harris is over paid and that is one deal I winced at badly last year when it was made.  He is still our best ilb but he's limited in range.  Have always liked the player but he is ripe to be pressed next year as well. 

 

Davis is no loss at all.

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1 hour ago, KRL said:

Amazing how a young player who had 4.5 speed coming out of college continued to get

slower and slower.  Hopefully we get a compensatory pick for him

Curious... he was on the small side coming out of college, and many scouting reports said he'd be an ideal LBer in a 4-3 defense. Did the Jets put him at ILB and ask him to bulk up? That would slow him down. Also, contact slows some guys down too... and lack of instinct.

I guess it could be any combination of issues... regardless, he got slow.

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So many holes, so little money.

Big Mac better be true to his background in scouting and draft like a mother ****er because this team is old, getting older, with tons of holes, no QB, no money, less picks and a boat load of inhouse decisions to make over the next 2 years. 

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9 minutes ago, JiF said:

So many holes, so little money.

Big Mac better be true to his background in scouting and draft like a mother ****er because this team is old, getting older, with tons of holes, no QB, no money and a boat load of inhouse decisions to make over the next 2 years. 

Just like any GM, it all comes down to nailing your draft picks.  It's perhaps too early to tell, but his first draft looks pretty good.  Lorenzo Mauldin already looks like a solid pick.  Williams was the obvious choice but a somewhat ballsy one all the same given all the DL we've drafted over the years.  He also turned a 5th rounder into Brandon Marshall.  Hopefully Devin Smith doesn't join our long list of 2nd round busts over the years.

Provided he does well with his drafts (a big IF, but let's just make that assumption, since anything other than that will lead to his firing), the other stuff will fall into place.  The money will be there next offseason and beyond.  Currently we're scheduled to have $41.7M in cap space in 2017, and $120.2M in 2018.  There's a lot of contracts coming off the books.  Those aging players whose contracts come to an end would be replaced by younger players from the draft, and we'd be able to spend wherever we need to.

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1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Just like any GM, it all comes down to nailing your draft picks.  It's perhaps too early to tell, but his first draft looks pretty good.  Lorenzo Mauldin already looks like a solid pick.  Williams was the obvious choice but a somewhat ballsy one all the same given all the DL we've drafted over the years.  He also turned a 5th rounder into Brandon Marshall.  Hopefully Devin Smith doesn't join our long list of 2nd round busts over the years.

Provided he does well with his drafts (a big IF, but let's just make that assumption, since anything other than that will lead to his firing), the other stuff will fall into place.  The money will be there next offseason and beyond.  Currently we're scheduled to have $41.7M in cap space in 2017, and $120.2M in 2018.  There's a lot of contracts coming off the books.  Those aging players whose contracts come to an end would be replaced by younger players from the draft, and we'd be able to spend wherever we need to.

It's basically 2011 all over again.  Team is old, last year was their window and now they're kind of ****ed next season and being held hostage by Ryan ******* Fitzpatrick.  So, the only solution is draft well and not feel the impact of losing a lot of key contributors.  The cap space looks that way now, but like I said, he's got a ton of in house work to do.

 

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1 minute ago, JiF said:

It's basically 2011 all over again.  Team is old, last year was their window and now they're kind of ****ed next season and being held hostage by Ryan ******* Fitzpatrick.  So, the only solution is draft well and not feel the impact of losing a lot of key contributors.  The cap space looks that way now, but like I said, he's got a ton of in house work to do.

 

Absolutely.  He didn't fix all the problems Idzik and even Tannenbaum helped create due to years of poor drafting.  He couldn't.  Just have to trust the process, because what else can we do?  If Macc sucks at drafting, we're screwed.  If he's at least average or better, we have a  bright future.  Because I do think Bowles has the right makeup to be a good coach.

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DeMario was not really that good the last 2 years. Thought he really regressed last year.

 

I thought his open field tackling was poor, and the fact he was not that much of a factor in coverage. The linebacker position has changed in the NFL. I'm hoping we get a comp pick for him.

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@Integrity28 His combine measures were (6'2, 235) which seems 10-15 lbs lighter than his NFL playing weight, and even then he ran a 4.61 at the combine, though he reportedly ran as low as 4.5 in the pre-draft process.

 

Here was his analysis.  Interesting that Mayock had him pegged as a 5th round prospect, cause if you take away the Ryan-hype, he kinda played like one.  

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OVERVIEW

Davis is a big linebacker who is competitive and had a lot of tackles for Arkansas State. Speed is by far his best asset. He could run a 4.5 40-yard dash in the pre-draft process, and that kind of speed is hard to ignore. Davis is big enough to play the position in the NFL, and has fifth-round value to a team that needs a guy who can run down plays and be effective against both the pass and run. Davis can be an awesome special teams candidate early on, which likely will be the key reason he is on a field in Week 1 of the 2012 NFL season.

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

 Davis can really run, and it shows in every play he is in against the run. He has a burst in short areas and can run down almost any back to meet him outside the tackles and cover the outside run. He chases hard and fast every play and would be an excellent option to play outside linebacker in a 4-3 defense. He is a good tackler and has that obvious explosion to drive through his hips and really deliver a blow on a ball carrier.

WEAKNESSES

 Davis needs to gather better when running down plays from the inside-out. He is so fast that he can overrun guys at times and fly off them as his momentum takes him outside on a tackle. Against one-cut runners at the NFL level, he could have a tough time gathering to make a secure tackle on the run. His athletic ability really doesn't translate to pass defense, where he can look awkward and out of place at times. He needs to learn to better diagnose plays because he could struggle against faster offenses.

 

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3 hours ago, JiF said:

So many holes, so little money.

Big Mac better be true to his background in scouting and draft like a mother ****er because this team is old, getting older, with tons of holes, no QB, no money, less picks and a boat load of inhouse decisions to make over the next 2 years. 

Where are these holes you speak of?

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3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Absolutely.  He didn't fix all the problems Idzik and even Tannenbaum helped create due to years of poor drafting.  He couldn't.  Just have to trust the process, because what else can we do?  If Macc sucks at drafting, we're screwed.  If he's at least average or better, we have a  bright future.  Because I do think Bowles has the right makeup to be a good coach.

Maybe use that huge cap surplus he had last year to secure contracts with Harrison and/or Mo?  Extend Fitz?  Stop chasing FA's that are old and overpriced?  I'm starting to see Mac as Tanny 2.0

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Wish him the best.  Too bad his immense physical gifts and hard working attitude didn't translate to being as good a player as I thought he could become.

 

I won't miss the Jesus on the Cross celebration.

But his most memorable play was running down that RB 20 yards ahead of him - Demario could fly in a straight line.

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