kelly Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 The Cleveland Browns have agreed to terms with linebacker Demario Davis on a two-year deal for $8 million, a source confirmed to ESPN's Rich Cimini on Wednesday. Davis, a third-round pick in 2012, started the last three seasons for theNew York Jets at the weak-inside position in their 3-4 defense.Last season didn't end well for Davis, who finished in a platoon with Erin Henderson. They split time over the final six games, although coach Todd Bowles insisted it wasn't because he was unhappy with Davis. He couched it by saying Henderson deserved an increased role. Nevertheless, it stung Davis, an every-down linebacker in 2013 and 2014. Davis came from a small school, Arkansas State, but the organization placed big expectations on him. On the day he was drafted, his first coach, Rex Ryan, said Davis possessed leadership qualities that reminded him of former Baltimore Ravens great Ray Lewis -- an unfair comparison.In four seasons, Davis has produced 332 tackles, 6.5 sacks, one interception and four fumble recoveries. He has no forced fumbles. He missed a team-high 16 tackles last season, according to Pro Football Focus. He also had problems in pass coverage. > http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14985586/cleveland-browns-agree-terms-lb-demario-davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 They can have him for $4mm a year. But it's tough to keep losing guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: They can have him for $4mm a year. But it's tough to keep losing guys. Not tough to lose this one, he was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 i keep thinking about the eagles game. just awful. no lateral agility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Amazing how a young player who had 4.5 speed coming out of college continued to get slower and slower. Hopefully we get a compensatory pick for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Soooo what kind of comp pick do we get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 YES!!!!! COMP PICKS!!!! An overrated 2012 3rd rounder who couldn't tackle & annoyed the lockerroom signs w/Cleveland. We get a COMP! Way to go MacCags!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 He was decent, prefer him to Harris for sure but ah well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 over/under for Cleveland 2016 wins? I say the over/under line should be at 2.5 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Fantastic news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: He was decent, prefer him to Harris for sure but ah well. Harris was better than him in every facet of the game last season. Harris is slighted because he makes too much money. He is still a useful and impactful part of the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 27 minutes ago, KRL said: Amazing how a young player who had 4.5 speed coming out of college continued to get slower and slower. Hopefully we get a compensatory pick for him It's the Florham Park SLB virus at work. (Slow-Linebacker Virus). Any NFL LB entering the borough of Florham Park is susceptible to this airborne virus that gradually erodes a linebacker's speed. Novartis and J&J are working on a vaccine, but it may be a few years until it is approved by the FDA and Goodell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 35 minutes ago, KRL said: Amazing how a young player who had 4.5 speed coming out of college continued to get slower and slower. Hopefully we get a compensatory pick for him He really was the slowest 4.5 guy ever. I don't know if he had bad instincts, and so he was always a step behind, but for a guy that fast, his range was really mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 44 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: i keep thinking about the eagles game. just awful. no lateral agility. Especially considering that Bowles was yelling out to him before the snap to watch the flat and wheel routes for the RB on their big TD play. ugh....awful. Glad he's gone. WE WANT COMP PICKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Look, he got 8 mil. A big surprise to most of us because Jets fans for the most part did not think he was that good. But we look for the WOW factor and the coaches look for a lot of other things that are on the film. If a guy doesn't make big plays esp sacks fans think the guy sucks. I don't discount the Browns coaching staff who gave their FO a heads up to sign him. They think he can fit into their scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 29 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: He was decent, prefer him to Harris for sure but ah well. Harris is a much better tackler and has much better instincts. The problem is having 2 slow ILB's in our scheme. One slow guy is acceptable, but we need to pair with Harris an athletic ILB who can drop back in pass coverage. That would be a fine duo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Will this get us another comp pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Harris is over paid and that is one deal I winced at badly last year when it was made. He is still our best ilb but he's limited in range. Have always liked the player but he is ripe to be pressed next year as well. Davis is no loss at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphtrilogy Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 If even Rex didn't want him, you know he was kind of a bust pick for that Old regime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 1 hour ago, KRL said: Amazing how a young player who had 4.5 speed coming out of college continued to get slower and slower. Hopefully we get a compensatory pick for him Curious... he was on the small side coming out of college, and many scouting reports said he'd be an ideal LBer in a 4-3 defense. Did the Jets put him at ILB and ask him to bulk up? That would slow him down. Also, contact slows some guys down too... and lack of instinct. I guess it could be any combination of issues... regardless, he got slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 So many holes, so little money. Big Mac better be true to his background in scouting and draft like a mother ****er because this team is old, getting older, with tons of holes, no QB, no money, less picks and a boat load of inhouse decisions to make over the next 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 9 minutes ago, JiF said: So many holes, so little money. Big Mac better be true to his background in scouting and draft like a mother ****er because this team is old, getting older, with tons of holes, no QB, no money and a boat load of inhouse decisions to make over the next 2 years. Just like any GM, it all comes down to nailing your draft picks. It's perhaps too early to tell, but his first draft looks pretty good. Lorenzo Mauldin already looks like a solid pick. Williams was the obvious choice but a somewhat ballsy one all the same given all the DL we've drafted over the years. He also turned a 5th rounder into Brandon Marshall. Hopefully Devin Smith doesn't join our long list of 2nd round busts over the years. Provided he does well with his drafts (a big IF, but let's just make that assumption, since anything other than that will lead to his firing), the other stuff will fall into place. The money will be there next offseason and beyond. Currently we're scheduled to have $41.7M in cap space in 2017, and $120.2M in 2018. There's a lot of contracts coming off the books. Those aging players whose contracts come to an end would be replaced by younger players from the draft, and we'd be able to spend wherever we need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Just like any GM, it all comes down to nailing your draft picks. It's perhaps too early to tell, but his first draft looks pretty good. Lorenzo Mauldin already looks like a solid pick. Williams was the obvious choice but a somewhat ballsy one all the same given all the DL we've drafted over the years. He also turned a 5th rounder into Brandon Marshall. Hopefully Devin Smith doesn't join our long list of 2nd round busts over the years. Provided he does well with his drafts (a big IF, but let's just make that assumption, since anything other than that will lead to his firing), the other stuff will fall into place. The money will be there next offseason and beyond. Currently we're scheduled to have $41.7M in cap space in 2017, and $120.2M in 2018. There's a lot of contracts coming off the books. Those aging players whose contracts come to an end would be replaced by younger players from the draft, and we'd be able to spend wherever we need to. It's basically 2011 all over again. Team is old, last year was their window and now they're kind of ****ed next season and being held hostage by Ryan ******* Fitzpatrick. So, the only solution is draft well and not feel the impact of losing a lot of key contributors. The cap space looks that way now, but like I said, he's got a ton of in house work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 1 minute ago, JiF said: It's basically 2011 all over again. Team is old, last year was their window and now they're kind of ****ed next season and being held hostage by Ryan ******* Fitzpatrick. So, the only solution is draft well and not feel the impact of losing a lot of key contributors. The cap space looks that way now, but like I said, he's got a ton of in house work to do. Absolutely. He didn't fix all the problems Idzik and even Tannenbaum helped create due to years of poor drafting. He couldn't. Just have to trust the process, because what else can we do? If Macc sucks at drafting, we're screwed. If he's at least average or better, we have a bright future. Because I do think Bowles has the right makeup to be a good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First_Blood Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 DeMario was not really that good the last 2 years. Thought he really regressed last year. I thought his open field tackling was poor, and the fact he was not that much of a factor in coverage. The linebacker position has changed in the NFL. I'm hoping we get a comp pick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 @Integrity28 His combine measures were (6'2, 235) which seems 10-15 lbs lighter than his NFL playing weight, and even then he ran a 4.61 at the combine, though he reportedly ran as low as 4.5 in the pre-draft process. Here was his analysis. Interesting that Mayock had him pegged as a 5th round prospect, cause if you take away the Ryan-hype, he kinda played like one. Quote OVERVIEW Davis is a big linebacker who is competitive and had a lot of tackles for Arkansas State. Speed is by far his best asset. He could run a 4.5 40-yard dash in the pre-draft process, and that kind of speed is hard to ignore. Davis is big enough to play the position in the NFL, and has fifth-round value to a team that needs a guy who can run down plays and be effective against both the pass and run. Davis can be an awesome special teams candidate early on, which likely will be the key reason he is on a field in Week 1 of the 2012 NFL season. ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Davis can really run, and it shows in every play he is in against the run. He has a burst in short areas and can run down almost any back to meet him outside the tackles and cover the outside run. He chases hard and fast every play and would be an excellent option to play outside linebacker in a 4-3 defense. He is a good tackler and has that obvious explosion to drive through his hips and really deliver a blow on a ball carrier. WEAKNESSES Davis needs to gather better when running down plays from the inside-out. He is so fast that he can overrun guys at times and fly off them as his momentum takes him outside on a tackle. Against one-cut runners at the NFL level, he could have a tough time gathering to make a secure tackle on the run. His athletic ability really doesn't translate to pass defense, where he can look awkward and out of place at times. He needs to learn to better diagnose plays because he could struggle against faster offenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRENGTHS Davis can really run, and it shows in every play he is in against the run. He has a burst in short areas and can run down almost any back to meet him outside the tackles and cover the outside run. He chases hard and fast every play and would be an excellent option to play outside linebacker in a 4-3 defense. He is a good tackler and has that obvious explosion to drive through his hips and really deliver a blow on a ball carrier.
WEAKNESSES Davis needs to gather better when running down plays from the inside-out. He is so fast that he can overrun guys at times and fly off them as his momentum takes him outside on a tackle. Against one-cut runners at the NFL level, he could have a tough time gathering to make a secure tackle on the run. His athletic ability really doesn't translate to pass defense, where he can look awkward and out of place at times. He needs to learn to better diagnose plays because he could struggle against faster offenses.
Spoot-Face Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 53 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Just have to trust the process, because what else can we do? Oh, God, don't use the "P" word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 There will not be any comp pick. Do people really know how it works? Comp picks are compansation for FA that you have lost compaired to FA that you have signed. Jenkins signing just equaled losing Davis . We might get one for snacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Good. I like how we are cutting bait with these turds eary. The last thing we need is having this guy hang around a la bryan thomas. Ur slow and u suck. Goodbye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 3 hours ago, JiF said: So many holes, so little money. Big Mac better be true to his background in scouting and draft like a mother ****er because this team is old, getting older, with tons of holes, no QB, no money, less picks and a boat load of inhouse decisions to make over the next 2 years. Where are these holes you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, HessStation said: Where are these holes you speak of? QB, ILB, OLB, NT, RT, RG, WR, DE - off the top of the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Jets 2012 Draft 1. Quentin Coples 2. Stephen Hill 3. Demario Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Absolutely. He didn't fix all the problems Idzik and even Tannenbaum helped create due to years of poor drafting. He couldn't. Just have to trust the process, because what else can we do? If Macc sucks at drafting, we're screwed. If he's at least average or better, we have a bright future. Because I do think Bowles has the right makeup to be a good coach. Maybe use that huge cap surplus he had last year to secure contracts with Harrison and/or Mo? Extend Fitz? Stop chasing FA's that are old and overpriced? I'm starting to see Mac as Tanny 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Wish him the best. Too bad his immense physical gifts and hard working attitude didn't translate to being as good a player as I thought he could become. I won't miss the Jesus on the Cross celebration. But his most memorable play was running down that RB 20 yards ahead of him - Demario could fly in a straight line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 5 hours ago, Joe Jets fan said: Not tough to lose this one, he was terrible. Agree. Addition by subtraction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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