pointman Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Thanks for... wearing our uniform? Enjoy retirement, old man. I forgive you for not being like LT or Thomas Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Forte was horrible for us. I don't understand how people like him. Anytime Powell gets the ball 15-20 times a game he is a stud, but no we need to get 45 yards from forte and ruin any momentum we ever get. You could hear his joints pop while he ran. SO GLAD he is off the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Building around Ryan Fitzpatrick, with the idea that the team would be a contender with him in the absence of 2015's impossible luck, was moronic. Either one of Forte or Powell I was ok with, for the reasons I outlined, but not both. You sign one of them and then you go to the draft for your other high-touch RB. It's a young man's position. If they were going to ink Powell anyway, then they could have stayed away from Forte (or vice versa). And to say "we did nothing moronic" when the 2 seasons that followed these and other moronic signings were both 5-win seasons, "nothing moronic" is a pretty hard argument to make. They conservatively did 5-10 moronic moves for every 1 smart one. What's moronic is the idea that we were building around Fitz and using that as the argument. They didn't even know that they would get Fitz back at the time, did they? They needed two backs because Powell is like china, his history is he can't handle a bigger load, look at the season ending game. Do no, a reliable 3rd down back on the team isn't moronic. 5 wins when the world predicted 1 isn't a defense either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 31 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: There was nothing moronic about the signing. He still was a threat catching out of the backfield, which with weak QBs was an asset. Add in the only other back on the team was an injury risk, always was tweaked when given an opportunity and thought to benefit from a decreased load. Draft another RB and there's your three backs. We did nothing moronic. It was a moronic signing. Hence the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19andOhWait Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Derrius Guice or Rashaad Penny or Josh Adams come on downnnnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Just in time for the Jets to sign Jonathan Stewart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: What's moronic is the idea that we were building around Fitz and using that as the argument. They didn't even know that they would get Fitz back at the time, did they? They needed two backs because Powell is like china, his history is he can't handle a bigger load, look at the season ending game. Do no, a reliable 3rd down back on the team isn't moronic. 5 wins when the world predicted 1 isn't a defense either. Inking Forte/Powell, as what I think was the #4 highest paid backfield in the NFL, was moronic. You can sign one of them but not both. One veteran has value. Two identical-use veterans not only stifles playing time of someone younger, which is bad enough. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy since it suppresses the likelihood of taking a RB higher than a late round why-not pick for the next 2 drafts. I said so at the time, and surprise surprise, that's exactly what happened. It was moronic. Stay after class to write it on the blackboard 500x (or until it sinks in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Just now, Thor99 said: Just in time for the Jets to sign Jonathan Stewart. Shush. There are still people haven't seen this movie yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 20 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Man, imagine retiring the same year your head coach decides to build the offense around your arthritis. i think gore is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Matt Forte Announces Retirement After 10 Seasons in NFL SCOTT POLACEKFEBRUARY 28, 2018 Seth Wenig/Associated Press Running back Matt Forte retired from the NFL on Wednesday after spending 10 seasons in the league with the Chicago Bears and New York Jets. Forte announced the news on Twitter: While Forte dealt with injury concerns in 2017 and tallied just 381 rushing yards, he isn't far removed from being one of the best running backs of his generation and ends his tenure with 9,796 career rushing yards. The two-time Pro Bowler ran for more than 1,000 yards in five of his eight seasons with the Bears and never finished with fewer than 898 yards on the ground. He helped lead the team to the NFC Championship Game in the 2010 season as a stabilizing force in the offense both on the ground and in the aerial attack. It was Forte's ability as a receiver that helped him stand out compared to many of his peers. He finishes with 4,672 receiving yards in his career, tallying as many as 808 yards through the air in one season. Forte's ability as a receiver out of the backfield allowed him to stay on the field for all three downs and take advantage of matchup problems against opposing linebackers. The Tulane product will be remembered for his explosiveness and two-way talent during his prime with the Bears, but his ability to play through the 2017 season is a testament to his durability. Forte said in November 2016 he "wanted to play 10 years," per Connor Hughes of NJ.com, and pointed to his decision to change his diet and revamp his approach after having his knee scoped in 2010. "I felt so much better," Forte said, "So I started changing everything. I changed this, and I didn't eat that. Then it was just about finding and doing all kinds of different things, like pre-hab. I wasn't waiting for an injury. I was doing stuff before to prevent it." The approach worked, helping establish him as a stalwart in the backfield for many years. He hinted in 2016 that his 10th campaign might be his last, which proves true with Wednesday's retirement. "As a running back, after 10, you take into account: Is it worth it?" Forte said. "You need to think of your health, family time, stuff like that. After 10 years, I'll have to revisit it and see how many more I feel like playing." He will now have the opportunity to turn his attention elsewhere and focus on his family and health as he leaves the game of football as one of the best Bears players in recent memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Good for him. He got out relatively healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Good player that was misused here and the wheels fell off physically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Sorry I didn't see the other thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 3 hours ago, sourceworx said: I wish him well. And to be honest it was a shame that he came here. It was a bad fit for both him and us. Agreed. Forte was a class act and a great player in this league for a long time. Always my go to guy in fantasy drafts as well. Just really consistent and a great all around RB. Kind of a shame he didnt get a chance to get into the 10k club, he certainly could have if given a bigger role where he was a better fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Please scan the board before starting new topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 His body retired 2 years ago. His mind retired today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Philc1 said: It was a moronic signing. Hence the results You're so deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Congrats on your superb Bears career, Matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: Inking Forte/Powell, as what I think was the #4 highest paid backfield in the NFL, was moronic. You can sign one of them but not both. One veteran has value. Two identical-use veterans not only stifles playing time of someone younger, which is bad enough. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy since it suppresses the likelihood of taking a RB higher than a late round why-not pick for the next 2 drafts. I said so at the time, and surprise surprise, that's exactly what happened. It was moronic. Stay after class to write it on the blackboard 500x (or until it sinks in). Except we did draft a RB. You have no clue that if a back they wanted was available they would have passed because of either RB, neither was big money and the Jets weren't in cap hell. Having 2 backs to split the load to try and keep both healthy isn't moronic when everyone else or the Jets do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Sounds like football will no longer be his.... ....forte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Good, I don't have to see his slow ass taking valuble snaps away from Powell, and perhaps a rookie RB now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 16 hours ago, shuler82 said: sh*t. Which past his prime RB is Mac going to overpay now? Isaiah Crowell to the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 hours ago, jgb said: Isaiah Crowell to the Jets That would be a PR nightmare, I hope the Jets are smart enough to go anywhere near that clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscreen Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Now that Mo is gone and Forte has decided to retire, how much cap space do the Jets have currently? Does anyone have a semi accurate number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 19 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: Good for him. Happy retirement. The Jets fans were conspicuously absent from that statement. not much "roar of the crowd" in two 5 win seasons, I give us a pass on this one and he did not say anything bad so his time with the Jets ended as well as could be expected - good luck Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, nyjunc said: That would be a PR nightmare, I hope the Jets are smart enough to go anywhere near that clown. Colts not re-signing Gore... although he wants to go to a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Don't let the door hit you on the way out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, GKnight83 said: Don't let the door hit you on the way out! Haha a little harsh. Forte's not a Mo or even Revis situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 23 hours ago, SMC said: CAP SPACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the final frontier..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 19 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Except we did draft a RB. You have no clue that if a back they wanted was available they would have passed because of either RB, neither was big money and the Jets weren't in cap hell. Having 2 backs to split the load to try and keep both healthy isn't moronic when everyone else or the Jets do it. If you think signing Forte and Powell in March - 2 years guaranteed as a top-5 RB $ duo - had no influence on the draft, you are welcome to that opinion. As it happened, they did not draft a RB that year so you are dead wrong. The 6th rounder they eventually use to draft a RB didn't come until over a year later. in 2016, they signed Forte, then Powell, then Robinson. No RBs in the draft. Imagine if I'd said to you, "We DID address the QB position the year before Macc got here. We drafted Boyd in round 6!" Because that's what I'm reading now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Captain BAP didn't touch a RB in the 2016 draft because he'd just locked up Forte/Powell/Robinson. Then in 2017 he still had Forte/Powell locked up with another guaranteed $8m for the season (on top of an additional $4m in amortized SB between them that hadn't yet hit the cap). So even in 2017 that's $12m of guaranteed cap hits for that duo (unless he could trade one of them, which he supposedly tried to do this past August with no takers). Based on that alone, there's no way he was pulling the trigger on a more dynamic RB prospect on days 1-2 in either of the past 2 drafts, any more than he was taking a QB early right after drafting Hack in round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 49 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: If you think signing Forte and Powell in March - 2 years guaranteed as a top-5 RB $ duo - had no influence on the draft, you are welcome to that opinion. As it happened, they did not draft a RB that year so you are dead wrong. The 6th rounder they eventually use to draft a RB didn't come until over a year later. in 2016, they signed Forte, then Powell, then Robinson. No RBs in the draft. Imagine if I'd said to you, "We DID address the QB position the year before Macc got here. We drafted Boyd in round 6!" Because that's what I'm reading now. Once again, they drafted a QB. There's no proof that if they liked one earlier they wouldn't have drafted him because Powell was on the roster with Forte. We weren't going into the season with 2 RBs. What's the point? And where does the top 5 RB $ duo come from? What's left from pairs after you take away RBs who on their own made more money than those 2? It's a ridiculous point that those 2 made 7 Mil while 9 RBs made 6+ Mil alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 45 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Captain BAP didn't touch a RB in the 2016 draft because he'd just locked up Forte/Powell/Robinson. Then in 2017 he still had Forte/Powell locked up with another guaranteed $8m for the season (on top of an additional $4m in amortized SB between them that hadn't yet hit the cap). So even in 2017 that's $12m of guaranteed cap hits for that duo (unless he could trade one of them, which he supposedly tried to do this past August with no takers). Based on that alone, there's no way he was pulling the trigger on a more dynamic RB prospect on days 1-2 in either of the past 2 drafts, any more than he was taking a QB early right after drafting Hack in round 2. Sure, thats what it means. Stop, 12 Mil is nothing that would prevent anyone from drafting a RB. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/2016/average/running-back/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Once again, they drafted a QB. There's no proof that if they liked one earlier they wouldn't have drafted him because Powell was on the roster with Forte. We weren't going into the season with 2 RBs. What's the point? And where does the top 5 RB $ duo come from? What's left from pairs after you take away RBs who on their own made more money than those 2? It's a ridiculous point that those 2 made 7 Mil while 9 RBs made 6+ Mil alone. In round SIX. Teams regularly target special teams players earlier than that, so forgive me if I don't take that seriously. Where does the $ come from? It comes from math. The Jets' team spending on the RB position was about #4 in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: In round SIX. Teams regularly target special teams players earlier than that, so forgive me if I don't take that seriously. Where does the $ come from? It comes from math. The Jets' team spending on the RB position was about #4 in the NFL. So now it's the round, not that they couldn't draft one? Meanwhile 9 backs on their own made that money or more. Math, yes. Selective and pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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