Patriot Killa Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 45 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: I have to agree that the numbers for both Vaitai and Glasgow look very good. $11M per year for Glasgow and $10M for Vaitai. Those were easily doable by this team. There has to be something else at work here. We are the NY Knicks of football. They just don't want near us lol. I’m trying to chill out and let the process work itself out but the well is running dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Van noy and dorsett don't really do anything for us. I hope Joe D doesn't pay for them. I like him avoiding top dollar FA, we shouldn't really being going after that and build in draft, but seriously not liking payin gofr other team trash. Even Van Noy who is good player, doesn't really do anything for us. I mean if he comes cheaper sure, but seeking him out doesnt seem that good of a deal. Dorsett, most likely wouldn't do great here, he would be more of same, that being said if it is significantly cheaper than robbie I am all for it, if not take a roll of the dice on UDFA and draft for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Untouchable said: OLB Dante Fowler ILB C.J. Mosley ILB Avery Williamson OLB Kyle Van Noy That LB corps coupled with a rotating DL of McLendon, Q. Williams, Anderson, Shepherd, Fatukasi, Phillips, etc. gives us one helluva front seven that should keep us in a lot of games. Couple that with an improved OL and WR corps and this team could potentially win 10+ games even if we have a deficiency at a position like CB. What improved OL if you spent all the money in the LBS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, Patriot Killa said: We are the NY Knicks of football. They just don't want near us lol. I’m trying to chill out and let the process work itself out but the well is running dry. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, King P said: ?? Getting Connor McGovern instead of Glasgow is like getting Julius Randle instead of Zion Williamson .. well maybe not to that extremity but you get the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King P Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Getting Connor McGovern instead of Glasgow is like getting Julius Randle instead of Zion Williamson .. well maybe not to that extremity but you get the point. Nah, that's not a good example. Getting Julius Randle in FA makes no sense, neither does signing 3 more Power Fowards to go along with Randle ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjbuddy Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: I do think he's an upgrade over Jordan Jenkins Perhaps the Van Noy interest is to get Jenkins to sign at a lower price. Also, Dorsett to get Robby to sign at a lower price too. Also, could be figuring out what the market would be for similar type of players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Byron Jones to Dolphins 5 yr. 82 mil. 57 guaranteed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I'm thinking the strategy may be to get over the compensatory picks "hump" for future offseasons. If we sign just a few FAs for low prices this offseason, we may be in for a huge comp pick haul next year, and then plan to keep that process going. JD may be willing to take it on the chin for 1 offseason to start that up. THAT would be emulating his mentor as closely as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I love how everyones freaking out. We're 7 hours into free agency. Who have the Steelers signed? How about the cowboys? Pats? Packers? Eagles? Etc. Douglas will make some moves, but he's not going to be throwing money around like macaggnan was last year (Mosely and bell) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 So far it seems as if the jets are being more aggressive with defensive players. Wonder if this means they realize that they’re just not drafting pass rushers and that this draft will be devoted to the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: I love how everyones freaking out. We're 7 hours into free agency. Who have the Steelers signed? How about the cowboys? Pats? Packers? Eagles? Etc. Douglas will make some moves, but he's not going to be throwing money around like macaggnan was last year (Mosely and bell) You mean the good teams? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Mogglez said: So so accurate lol. I know there’s a lot that can happen. But goood lawd this offense right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said: What improved OL if you spent all the money in the LBS Go sign guys like Van Roten and Wisniewski to short term deals, bring back Alex Lewis, sign an aging vet to play RT like Bryan Bulaga or Jason Peters, hopefully draft the best available OT at #11 and then another OL within the first 3 rounds. LT Andrew Thomas LG Greg Van Roten C Stefen Wisniewski RG Alex Lewis RT Bryan Bulaga I could live with that OL for at least a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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talisaynon Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 30 minutes ago, Philc1 said: He’s not he definitely is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: I love how everyones freaking out. We're 7 hours into free agency. Who have the Steelers signed? How about the cowboys? Pats? Packers? Eagles? Etc. Douglas will make some moves, but he's not going to be throwing money around like macaggnan was last year (Mosely and bell) Those teams are actually good. They get the benefit of the doubt. Our last two GMs were failed abortions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 Anybody else hearing these rumors that Joe Douglas' alarm clock never went off this morning and, even at this moment, he's still asleep? Only asking because this is the rumors thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: Who have the Steelers signed? How about the cowboys? Pats? Packers? Eagles? Etc. Oh you mean teams with talent already on the roster? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: I love how everyones freaking out. We're 7 hours into free agency. Who have the Steelers signed? How about the cowboys? Pats? Packers? Eagles? Etc. Douglas will make some moves, but he's not going to be throwing money around like macaggnan was last year (Mosely and bell) Part of me agrees with you; but all those teams already have good offensive lines. We’re going into our third year with our franchise QB and needed a massive overhaul of our offensive line. I’m legitimately pissed about Glasgow. Vaitai and Conklin I understood after I saw the money, but we’ll see how things go. It is best to be patient but I wanted to at least grab one of the top tier o-lineman, and Glasgow was my guy. Seems like it’s gonna be RE-signing Beachum, some second tier guys in free agency and hopefully a boatload of draft picks on o-lineman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, LockeJET said: Byron Jones to Dolphins 5 yr. 82 mil. 57 guaranteed That's like $10M more than we gave Trumaine Johnson. Not sure if that's better or worse?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, JTJet said: I'm thinking the strategy may be to get over the compensatory picks "hump" for future offseasons. If we sign just a few FAs for low prices this offseason, we may be in for a huge comp pick haul next year, and then plan to keep that process going. JD may be willing to take it on the chin for 1 offseason to start that up. THAT would be emulating his mento as closely as possible. Everything he has said in the past does not back up this logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said: hmmm...some interesting names we might consider. All of these guys have had some success in this League and might just need a fresh start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 What I’m surprised we’re not hearing is how the jets were outbid for any of these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: It really comes back to one major factor. Can Douglas draft like his mentor? If he can then it's basically the Idzik plan realized properly. Sign a bunch of lower tier FAs and then draft young talent If he can't, then more of the same. yeah , it is a great plan that could lead to great results, but if you miss on your 40 draft picks then it all falls apart. fingers crossed. No matter opinion, it is the correct way to build a team that has so many holes. paying for top tier FA is for people that are missing a final piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, RobR said: Everything he has said in the past does not back up this logic. Maybe. Maybe not. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: We are the NY Knicks of football. They just don't want near us lol. I’m trying to chill out and let the process work itself out but the well is running dry. Maybe they're scared of DeBlasio? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, JTJet said: Maybe. Maybe not. Time will tell. If you listened to any of his interviews he said he was not concerned about compensatory picks. Maybe in the future that could be a different story with an improved roster but it is definitely not the case this year......we need too sign some of these guys because our roster is barren at many positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: I love how everyones freaking out. We're 7 hours into free agency. Who have the Steelers signed? How about the cowboys? Pats? Packers? Eagles? Etc. Douglas will make some moves, but he's not going to be throwing money around like macaggnan was last year (Mosely and bell) All those teams you named are good teams. The Jets are a bad team in desperate need of talent. They need to add talent at premium positions. Byron Jones, Jack Conklin, Graham Glasgow, James Bradberry all could have helped this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I think it’s possible that Douglas, like many of us, sees the value that OL and WR hold in this draft class and may want to instead use the FA period to make a big splash at edgerusher. Pressuring the QB has plagued this team for nearly two decades and signing a combo of Van Noy and Fowler/Clowney could go a long way towards fixing that immediately. This EDGE draft class is nothing to write home about after Chase Young and the Jets can’t be dicking around with some 2nd rate edgerusher if they have a shot at one of the top OT’s or WR’s at #11 anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, Paradis said: only the jets, with two of the highest paid LBs in the league -- can go into FA needing Oline and WR help -- and come out with.... ANOTHER LINEBACKER lolol DL is next, you just know it... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, RobR said: If you listened to any of his interviews he said he was not concerned about compensatory picks. Maybe in the future that could be a different story with an improved roster but it is definitely not the case this year......we need too sign some of these guys because our roster is barren at many positions. Hey dont shoot the messenger lol. I agree with you 100%. But maybe he was just keeping his actual plan close to the chest. Idk. Just trying to make heads or tails over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, jetstream23 said: Maybe they're scared of DeBlasio? lol If he'd have kept his original name it would have worked out so perfectly too. People would have been able to say they were afraid of "the Wilhelm Scream." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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