munchmemory Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, HawkeyeJet said: According to the interwebs, his nickname is Peanut. I'm in. I pray it was not given to him by his wife. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Let me guess. 1 year deal? Players want the 1 year deals, not the teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, mrcoops said: Played next to Mosley in 2017 and 2018. Smaller ILB who covers well and is a good blitzer. We now have 6 legit ILBs with Mosley, Williamson, Onwuasor, Hewitt, Burgess and Cashman. Something's gotta give - quite possibly Williamson, in a cap move. I wonder if they are going to play a 4-3, and these are the 6 linebackers on the depth chart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Williamson has to go, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 We should start a poll. Which LB gets traded for a pick(s) first? Mostly or Williamson? Add Bell to that also if you want. Because I’m on record that if JD has this go the way he wants, our 3 new OL will be the highest paid guys on the Jets next season, and that’s only because he wants Darnold to survive the purge in one piece. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Butterfield said: I wonder if they are going to play a 4-3, and these are the 6 linebackers on the depth chart. Interesting idea. That would make guys like Jenkins, Basham and Langi 4-3 DEs. Hmmm... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Adams isn’t getting traded. it will be Avery Williamson if anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, mrcoops said: He played weakside ILB, while Mosley was the Mike. A smaller guy, but tough and hard-nosed. Nice signing. it's not the size but the fight in the dog. i don't know this guy from adam but he seems like a decent player and may fit into whatever scheme williams is planning on running. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: We should start a poll. Which LB gets traded for a pick(s) first? Mostly or Williamson? Add Bell to that also if you want. Because I’m on record that if JD has this go the way he wants, our 3 new OL will be the highest paid guys on the Jets next season, and that’s only because he wants Darnold to survive the purge in one piece. Mosley's contract makes trading him almost impossible. So its gotta be Williamson. Absolute most we could get for him would probably be a 5th rounder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Mosley's contract makes trading him almost impossible. So its gotta be Williamson. Absolute most we could get for him would probably be a 5th rounder. We were joking earlier about the Browns, but just off the top of my head, teams like them, and the Giants are desperate for LBs. Id be disappointed with a 5th, but there should be a market out there for Avery, don’t you think? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 33 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: Bingo. we’ve gone from Suck for Sam in ‘17 To Tank in Twenty. In JD We Trust, because if he tears this down, and doesn’t build it back up correctly.... we’re screwed. ? Well, in all fairness.....was there a lot to even tear down? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, choon328 said: Players want the 1 year deals, not the teams. This isn't always the case. Players want big guaranteed money. Multi-year deals do that.....unless you're Kirk Cousins and can get full guaranteed money deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: Id be disappointed with a 5th, but there should be a market out there for Avery, don’t you think? Coming off an ACL year who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Coming off an ACL year who knows Maybe he could be used to trade up in the 2nd or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I do not want to trade Williamson without knowing if we have a reliable product behind him. Cashman and Hewitt are good but they need more time. Mosley and Williamson is a helluva duo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Well, in all fairness.....was there a lot to even tear down? No, there wasn’t. After the first few days of FA, it became obvious what he’s doing, and I’m fine with it. This team needed a housecleaning, and there’s no rush to extend guys like Adams or Darnold. Make them play out there contracts, tag them if you want, then see where we are as a team and decide if we want to resign them. The thing I think is going to be interesting though, is next offseason, when all these contracts are off the books, we’ll have a ton of cap space, and could be big spenders again, so who knows? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: This isn't always the case. Players want big guaranteed money. Multi-year deals do that.....unless you're Kirk Cousins and can get full guaranteed money deals. In this particular circumstance where the cap is expected to jump $25-$30 million next year it is in the best interest of the players to wait for their payday next year when more cash is flowing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: We were joking earlier about the Browns, but just off the top of my head, teams like them, and the Giants are desperate for LBs. Id be disappointed with a 5th, but there should be a market out there for Avery, don’t you think? The closer we get to the draft, the more GM's want to hold onto the picks they have. Given Williamson's age (28), the fact that he hasn't played in a full year, the money the new team would have to take on, and the thought that they could easily just wait for the Jets to cut him....all of those factors could serve to drive down his value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Another solid under the radar signing. Onwuasor has a positive chemistry playing with Mosely. ILB, hybrid safety, situational pass rusher, STer. 5.5 (2018) and 3 sacks last year. JD continues building this roster the right way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Wonderboy said: Darron Lee's Mom is pissed ? Fixed 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, 14 in Green said: We should start a poll. Which LB gets traded for a pick(s) first? Mostly or Williamson? Add Bell to that also if you want. Because I’m on record that if JD has this go the way he wants, our 3 new OL will be the highest paid guys on the Jets next season, and that’s only because he wants Darnold to survive the purge in one piece. Can everyone please stop with the trade Mosley - he is an All-pro player who essentially was singlehandedly beating the Bills until he got hurt. He is the best ILB in football and is going to vastly improve our defense. Onwuasor seems like that great signing to me as he has familiarity next to Mosley and is good in coverage which is much more important for an ILB in this defense given how well we stop the run as a DL unit. That being said, we need to move someone because there are far too many ILBs on one team. For me, I think the max is 5, and I believe cashman is worth another year, so that leaves Mosley, Onwuasor, Hewitt, Cashman and Burgess making Williamson (unfortunately for him as he seems like a good player and guy) the odd man out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killa7 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, SAR I said: "There's no stopping us now!" SAR I so we are onto the conference champions now, huh? I hope you are right!! From your mouth to God's ears!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, choon328 said: In this particular circumstance where the cap is expected to jump $25-$30 million next year it is in the best interest of the players to wait for their payday next year when more cash is flowing. Good point, I don't disagree with that. But players who can pocket a guaranteed $15, $20, $25M usually aren't signing one-year $6M deals in an era where guys are retiring earlier than in the past and the risk of injury is still significant. I think each guy's situation is unique. Guys like Alex Lewis, McGovern, etc. signed 3 year deals.....I don't completely agree that Poole, Jenkins, Perriman, Desir are on one-year deals as their first choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Just now, BCJet said: Can everyone please stop with the trade Mosley - he is an All-pro player who essentially was singlehandedly beating the Bills until he got hurt. He is the best ILB in football and is going to vastly improve our defense. Onwuasor seems like that great signing to me as he has familiarity next to Mosley and is good in coverage which is much more important for an ILB in this defense given how well we stop the run as a DL unit. That being said, we need to move someone because there are far too many ILBs on one team. For me, I think the max is 5, and I believe cashman is worth another year, so that leaves Mosley, Onwuasor, Hewitt, Cashman and Burgess making Williamson (unfortunately for him as he seems like a good player and guy) the odd man out. Nobody is saying that Mosely isn't a very good player, but he's a 30 year old player making about 19 mil per. That's not who you want on a rebuilding team. However as @Jetsfan80 just explained, we're not going to be able to move him this year because of his contract. So don't worry. He'll be a Jet this year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 hours ago, David Harris said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-patrick-onwuasor-jets-20200325-qcydn7zzirhgrkkvochoykvvbu-story.html%3foutputType=amp “His struggles in coverage and against the run led the Ravens to sign Bynes and Fort, and after playing 284 defensive snaps over the first five games, Onwuasor got just 190 over the next nine. He finished the season rated the No. 73 linebacker by Pro Football Focus.“ That’s about right.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, 82nd Airborne said: Another one year, let's go comp picks. Can i explain that to me pls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: “His struggles in coverage and against the run led the Ravens to sign Bynes and Fort, and after playing 284 defensive snaps over the first five games, Onwuasor got just 190 over the next nine. He finished the season rated the No. 73 linebacker by Pro Football Focus.“ That’s about right.. Context matters. He struggled as an ILB1. As an ILB2 he was fine. With our depth at ILB, he won't ever be asked to be an ILB1 here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Context matters. He struggled as an ILB1. As an ILB2 he was fine. With our depth at ILB, he won't ever be asked to be an ILB1 here. This is Fidelio everything is a bad move even it’s it’s more for depth ? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Context matters. He struggled as an ILB1. As an ILB2 he was fine. With our depth at ILB, he won't ever be asked to be an ILB1 here. Again, I’m sure he’s a nice piece, a fine role player. Seems to be a hard worker and good teammate. But let’s also be clear about what we have here - this isn’t a diamond in the ruff or some type of guy that’s going to take the place of Adams or Mosley. He’s a below average role player here for depth. If we all accept that then you won’t get an argument from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Again, I’m sure he’s a nice piece, a fine role player. Seems to be a hard worker and good teammate. But let’s also be clear about what we have here - this isn’t a diamond in the ruff or some type of guy that’s going to take the place of Adam’s or Mosley. He’s a below average role player here for depth. If we all except that then you won’t get an argument from me. I think he's the next Ray Lewis. No, but really, he's a nice little depth signing. Agreed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: “His struggles in coverage and against the run led the Ravens to sign Bynes and Fort, and after playing 284 defensive snaps over the first five games, Onwuasor got just 190 over the next nine. He finished the season rated the No. 73 linebacker by Pro Football Focus.“ That’s about right.. Special Teams guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Jetlife33 said: Looks like a typical Raven pick... under the radar, hard hitting & a nose for the football... I LIke it... Especially that he & Mosely have played together... I think Greg Williams is happy with this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, mrcoops said: Played next to Mosley in 2017 and 2018. Smaller ILB who covers well and is a good blitzer. We now have 6 legit ILBs with Mosley, Williamson, Onwuasor, Hewitt, Burgess and Cashman. Something's gotta give - quite possibly Williamson, in a cap move. yea its called injuries. can never have enough depth, good signing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, CTJetsFan said: I wonder if there is a question about Cashman's availability this year. Cashman's a walking mash unit... I like him but he's not durable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Wonderboy said: Darren Lee is pissed ? He just won a Super Bowl.... I don't think he's too upset. ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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