Quinnen Williams Article

[KRL]

We need to see the #3 pick in the draft from snap one of the season,
let's hope it works:

https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/83373/in-year-2-quinnen-williams-hopes-to-be-cookie-less-monster-for-jets

 

A look at what's happening around the New York Jets:

1. Sweet home, Alabama: Defensive tackle Quinnen Williams eats meals prepared by a personal chef. He works out four days a week. Some of that time is spent with a defensive backs trainer. (More on that in a bit.) He's so determined to better himself that he gave up fast food and Oreo cookies, big sacrifices for any 22-year-old.

"He wants to show people, 'I was the third overall pick for a reason,'" Williams' personal trainer, Kevin Brown, said in a phone interview. "That's his fire this offseason. Truly, he's all-in. I'm like, 'We need a Pro Bowl this year.' The mental space he's in now is totally on another level. This year, you guys will see a big difference in Quinnen Williams."

The Jets hope so because his rookie season was underwhelming, magnifying the importance of his first full offseason program, which failed to come to full fruition. Team facilities were shut down by the coronavirus pandemic, a potentially huge setback for a young player who is still learning how to prepare his body and mind for the rigors of a NFL season.

Jets defensive tackle Quinnen Williams (6-foot-3, 303 pounds) works out with trainer Kevin Brown (left). Courtesy of Kevin Brown

Instead of New Jersey, Williams has spent the offseason at home in Birmingham, Alabama, where he trains at Xtreme Fitness and Performance. It's a familiar setting for Williams, who has been going to Brown since the 11th grade. He works out alongside his brother, Quincy Williams, a linebacker for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Brown, who supervises about a dozen players, said his initial goals for Quinnen were to get him healthy (he missed three games because of a high-ankle sprain) and improve his strength.

There's also a quickness component built into the program. Brown doesn't want old-school defensive linemen (see: plodding 300-pounders), so there's an emphasis on movement skills. That's why Williams (6-foot-3, 303 pounds), already known for his athleticism, does agility drills with the in-house DB trainer. It's why he works out with VertiMax training equipment, which increases jumping ability and explosiveness.

Good nutrition also is a staple of the plan. Williams, who used a personal chef during the season, hired one for the offseason, too. When he's on the go and can't eat at home, he packs microwavable snacks for a healthier option than drive-through junk food.

"You're not going to put regular gas in a Lamborghini," Brown said. "It's the same thing with your body. You have to make sure you have the right fuel."

This is a huge season for Williams, the highest-drafted defensive player in Jets history. Considered a "can't-miss" prospect, he had 2.5 sacks and recorded more than two solo tackles in one of 13 games. He wasn't terrible, but he disappeared for stretches, acknowledging at the end of the season that he didn't play up to his expectations.

Some perspective, people.

Williams was so hyped coming out of Alabama that people looked past his relative lack of experience. Basically, he was a full-time player for one season. He dominated college offensive linemen, but he quickly discovered in the NFL that it takes more than talent.

"If you look back at his career at Alabama, he didn't play a lot," Jets linebacker C.J. Mosley said. "He still has a lot of raw talent in him. The more he learns and the more experience he gets on the field will make him that much better. ... Guys like me and the coaches have to stay on him and make sure he's in the right mindset. He's definitely that guy in the middle of our defense that can wreck games."

Williams' offseason began with a wrong kind of headline -- a March arrest for allegedly carrying an unlicensed pistol in a New York airport. (The charges are pending; the expectation is that his playing status won't be affected in 2020.) Williams tried to spin the offseason into a positive by committing to his craft. Come training camp, we'll see the results.

2. C.J. is OK: Even though Mosley said he's "cleared to do everything" in training camp, the prudent course of action would be to ease him back slowly, especially after having no offseason practices because of the coronavirus restrictions. Mosley, who had surgery last December to repair a core-muscle injury, said he's able to perform "football movements," which had been a question in his mind as recently as a month ago. That's great, but there's no rush, especially with five other inside linebackers on the Jets' roster.

"The Jets got somebody that's really, really talented," Carolina Panthers coach and former Baylor coach Matt Rhule says of Jets rookie wide receiver Denzel Mims. AP Photo/Richard W. Rodriguez

3. Blue-collar rookie: On the night he was drafted, Jets wide receiver Denzel Mims was asked to identify the strength of his game. The first thing he mentioned was blocking.

Blocking?

Clearly, Mims isn't your typical diva receiver. That notion was reinforced while listening to his former Baylor coach, Matt Rhule, on "The Last Stand Podcast" with Brian Custer. The current Carolina Panthers' coach, raised in New York City, believes Mims' mindset will play well with the local fan base.

"I grew up in that area and I know one thing about Jets' fans: They want toughness," Rhule said. "They want someone who's going to compete. They want grinders and workers, and that's what Denzel is. ... He's not going to be some guy who's all about the headlines. He's a worker.

"I would get after him and he would get after me. He's just a great, great person. The Jets got somebody that's really, really talented. His best football is ahead of him. You know what? He's going to grind and work and be a lunch-pail guy people can feel good about."

It won't happen overnight, but Mims -- picked in the second round -- has the potential to be a better all-around receiver than former Jet Robby Anderson, who played for Rhule at Temple and followed him to Carolina.

4. Where's Jamal? The Jamal Adams contract dispute is sure to be a big storyline in training camp, assuming he doesn't get a new deal (and I don't think he will). When the sides get around to serious negotiating, there could be a difference of opinion on his true value. That's because Adams is more than a safety, which undoubtedly will factor into his asking price.

In three seasons, Adams has lined up in the box on 37% of his defensive snaps, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

5. New post for Darnold? The Jets likely will have a new NFL Players' Association team rep after the fall election. The current rep is wide receiver Quincy Enunwa (out for the season), with tackle Kelvin Beachum (free agent) and quarterback Sam Darnold as the alternates. Enunwa told me recently that, even though he hopes to remain around the team as much as possible, it might be difficult to carry out the responsibilities of the position.

If Darnold gets the top spot, he'd have to be one of the youngest team reps ever at 23. New guard Greg Van Roten, 30, was the Panthers' top rep last season.

6. Jets South: Darnold is spending the weekend with about two dozen teammates at a training facility in the Miami area, a headline-generating summit/passing camp. It didn't generate publicity, but he actually did the same thing last offseason in California.

7. The last word: "You really realize how much the game means to you when you're away for so long. Just from rehabbing while the team was practicing, there was like two or three months where I didn't see the sunlight. I'd get in at 6 in the morning, 6:30 in the morning, be in rehab all day, then work out, then meeting. By the time we're out, it's like 6 o'clock and there's no sun. .... You definitely get a little isolated when you're in the facility and in the training room, working out and trying to do everything to stay sane." -- Mosley, who played only two games in 2019.

[Thai Jet]

Nice article. I'm expecting great things from Q this year. Sounds like he is too. With his improvement and CJ's return we've got one of the top D's in the league. IMO

[section314]

I guess it's a breakthrough that somebody being paid millions of $ finally realized he has to prepare for work? Better late than never, I guess.

[HawkeyeJet]

I'm a cockeyed optimist, so I'm sure my views are somewhat skewed that direction, but I legitimately believe QW will have a good year this year.  A high Ankle sprain is more debilitating and hangs around longer than most likely realize.

[sec101row23]

1 minute ago, HawkeyeJet said:

I'm a cockeyed optimist, so I'm sure my views are somewhat skewed that direction, but I legitimately believe QW will have a good year this year.  A high Ankle sprain is more debilitating and hangs around longer than most likely realize.

I tend to agree.   I think the real debate is what a “good” year will be for QW.   If people are expecting Aaron Donald, then they will be extremely disappointed.  Based on draft position and who was passed over to select QW,  unless he gets WAY more involved in disrupting the passing game, I think people will be very reluctant in declaring he had a good season.  

[T0mShane]

I feel like Quinnen should be a 3-4 end where he won’t get beat to sh*t as much. He might be miscast as a DT. He gives me Shaun Ellis vibes in that we’re going to waste some of his career playing out of position

[HawkeyeJet]

8 minutes ago, sec101row23 said:

I tend to agree.   I think the real debate is what a “good” year will be for QW.   If people are expecting Aaron Donald, then they will be extremely disappointed.  Based on draft position and who was passed over to select QW,  unless he gets WAY more involved in disrupting the passing game, I think people will be very reluctant in declaring he had a good season.  

I think Akiem Hicks for the Bears is a good barometer.  The past several years he's had around 7-8 sacks an 12-15 TFL.  I think those are reasonable, attainable type numbers for QW.

[T0mShane]

7 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

I think Akiem Hicks for the Bears is a good barometer.  The past several years he's had around 7-8 sacks an 12-15 TFL.  I think those are reasonable, attainable type numbers for QW.

What’s painful about this is that Hicks is a good comparison for standard but no living person would ever go back in time and draft Akiem Hicks in the first round, much less at 3 overall

[talisaynon]

Everytime i read an article like this i get pissed thinking how if ******* people in the US just all wore masks we'd get an NFL season in September.

[section314]

37 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I feel like Quinnen should be a 3-4 end where he won’t get beat to sh*t as much. He might be miscast as a DT. He gives me Shaun Ellis vibes in that we’re going to waste some of his career playing out of position

It's so typical of the prior lunacy of past years that we draft players without seemingly giving thought as to where to play them to maximize their talent. We draft Coples, play him inside, where he was a disruptive force because of height, strength and quickness, and he  has a decent rookie season with 5,5 sacks. Next season, the self proclaimed "defensive guru," Rex, decides he's really a cover outside LBer, and we all know how that turned out. Q looked like a fish out of water last year from day #1. It seems that so many times, there was a true disconnect between the coaches and the GM over picks, maybe not so much with Mr.T and Idzik, but  for sure with Macc. As I've said here many times, I would love to know who Gase and more importantly Williams were pushing for when Macc picked Q. I can't believe it was him. Hopefully JD amd the coaches are way more in sync.

[Thai Jet]

56 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I feel like Quinnen should be a 3-4 end where he won’t get beat to sh*t as much. He might be miscast as a DT. He gives me Shaun Ellis vibes in that we’re going to waste some of his career playing out of position

I know exactly what you're saying TOm but I trust GW will put him in a spot where he will do the most damage. I'm so glad GW is our DC.

[Jet_Engine1]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

I feel like Quinnen should be a 3-4 end where he won’t get beat to sh*t as much. He might be miscast as a DT. He gives me Shaun Ellis vibes in that we’re going to waste some of his career playing out of position

Or, just switch back to base 4-3 and let him play at 3 Tech, where he should be. 

 

6'3 300 shouldn't be in the middle of a 3-4 front 

[Creepy Lurker]

HORRIBLE draft pick. Why on earth didn’t they draft Josh Allen? Mac was the worst. 

[Losmeister]

who would you think is the better athlete?

 

or

 

 

[KRL]

Williams at the minimum has to produce these stats:

16 Games

50+ Tackles
7+ Sacks
15+ TFL

No excuse for the #3 pick in the draft not to put
up these numbers 

[AFJF]

If Quinnen Williams hits his ceiling he'll be a more impactful player than Josh Allen.  All we can do now is wait and see if that happens.

[JTJet]

3 hours ago, KRL said:

He's so determined to better himself that he gave up fast food and Oreo cookies, big sacrifices for any 22-year-old.

This is all I took from this article.

#3 overall pick. Couldnt even put down Oreos until his second season.

[32EBoozer]

2 hours ago, talisaynon said:

Everytime i read an article like this i get pissed thinking how if ******* people in the US just all wore masks we'd get an NFL season in September.

I think if the f@€#in Chinese shared that a pandemic broke out and prevented their citizens from flying all around the world there’s a good chance no one needs to wear a mask!!!

[14 in Green]

I’m not going to start gushing about a pro athlete hiring a trainer and nutritionist during the offseason and giving up cookies and milk.

It’s something just about every player in any pro sport has been doing for years now.

Quinnen seems like a good kid, and I’m on the side of those who think he can become a good player for this team, but stories like this don’t move the needle. The only thing they do is get a trainer some publicity.

[Losmeister]

1 hour ago, AFJF said:

If Quinnen Williams hits his ceiling he'll be a more impactful player than Josh Allen.  All we can do now is wait and see if that happens.

Allen is already an impactful player....   and QW has a long way to go to catch up

[slats]

4 hours ago, KRL said:

Williams' offseason began with a wrong kind of headline -- a March arrest for allegedly carrying an unlicensed pistol in a New York airport. (The charges are pending; the expectation is that his playing status won't be affected in 2020.) Williams tried to spin the offseason into a positive by committing to his craft. Come training camp, we'll see the results.

I've been saying the bold since the incident happened. I don't expect any suspensions resulting from a well-intentioned ignorance of the law. Glad to see that articulated in a national piece. 

4 hours ago, KRL said:

"I grew up in that area and I know one thing about Jets' fans: They want toughness," Rhule said. "They want someone who's going to compete. They want grinders and workers, and that's what Denzel [Mims]is. ... He's not going to be some guy who's all about the headlines. He's a worker."

I'm very excited about Mims, and I think Matt Rhule is right here: I really like the idea of a potential #1 WR who takes pride in his blocking. Dude looked like he had a real chip on his shoulder when he took the call from Joe D, I hope he plays with it there. 

4 hours ago, KRL said:

When the sides get around to serious negotiating, there could be a difference of opinion on his true value. That's because Adams is more than a safety, which undoubtedly will factor into his asking price.

This narrative is going to lead to the eventual divorce of the Jets and Jamal Adams. Either a trade, or they let him play out his deal and walk - maybe even after franchising him once or twice. Maybe I'm the one projecting here, but nothing Joe Douglas has done so far suggests to me that he's going to pay Adams anything more than top SS pay, if that. 

4 hours ago, KRL said:

If Darnold gets the top spot [as the Jets new NFL Players' Association team rep], he'd have to be one of the youngest team reps ever at 23. New guard Greg Van Roten, 30, was the Panthers' top rep last season.

Torn on this one. Don't think I really want Darnold being bothered with the day to day BS of being the team's rep, but also feel that it would say something about how his teammates view him if they voted him in. 

[slats]

1 hour ago, 32EBoozer said:

I think if the f@€#in Chinese shared that a pandemic broke out and prevented their citizens from flying all around the world there’s a good chance no one needs to wear a mask!!!

The first case in the US occurred less than two weeks after the Chinese first identified the virus. Three days after that, on January 23, 2020, Wuhan was in complete lockdown. At that point, the US was officially pretending that this was no big deal, and continued to do nothing for another six weeks, outside of banning travel from anyone who'd recently been in China. Again, this is after the disease was already in the US. It wasn't until 3/23 that the president declared a state of emergency. Had he done that just a couple weeks sooner, the tolls are half of what they are now. Had the country been aggressively preventing the spread of the disease from the time of their first case, the situation would've been dramatically different. 

Blaming China is silly when you look at all the things the US did wrong, especially when you can look around the world and see countries who did a much better job. 

[Savage69]

27 minutes ago, slats said:

The first case in the US occurred less than two weeks after the Chinese first identified the virus. Three days after that, on January 23, 2020, Wuhan was in complete lockdown. At that point, the US was officially pretending that this was no big deal, and continued to do nothing for another six weeks, outside of banning travel from anyone who'd recently been in China. Again, this is after the disease was already in the US. It wasn't until 3/23 that the president declared a state of emergency. Had he done that just a couple weeks sooner, the tolls are half of what they are now. Had the country been aggressively preventing the spread of the disease from the time of their first case, the situation would've been dramatically different. 

Blaming China is silly when you look at all the things the US did wrong, especially when you can look around the world and see countries who did a much better job. 

Here's the problem I could debate that but that would be called political.. Since your a Mod Max lets you slide. 

[slats]

4 minutes ago, Savage69 said:

Here's the problem I could debate that but that would be called political.. Since your a Mod Max lets you slide. 

You couldn't debate the timeline or the results. The US did a terrible job. 

As a mod, I could've removed @32EBoozer's post, but I decided to respond to it, instead. I'll leave it there. 

[ljr]

love hearing about C.J. being all over QW's *$$ to get him in shape

[Savage69]

1 minute ago, slats said:

You couldn't debate the timeline or the results. The US did a terrible job. 

As a mod, I could've removed @32EBoozer's post, but I decided to respond to it, instead. I'll leave it there. 

Ok this isn't political the Chinese banned any flights from Wuhan to other parts of China but not to the rest of the world. When the US banned flights Jan 31 it was called racist.

[Embrace the Suck]

It must be June as the puff pieces have begun. Love me a NJ Jet DL article about their special training and fulfilling potential. Start playing the karate kid training music... You're the best! Around! Nothing's gonna ever keep you down...

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

He was pretty pissed fans were getting on him last year and calling him out and kept telling ppl, “wait till next year”.  

We’ll see. 

[Kleckineau]

Wow he is working out 4 times a week now! 

My iron woman triathlete sister in law works out 4 times a day.

[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

3 hours ago, KRL said:

Williams at the minimum has to produce these stats:

16 Games

50+ Tackles
7+ Sacks
15+ TFL

No excuse for the #3 pick in the draft not to put
up these numbers 

Get ready for disappointment

[RobR]

Considering this was from a week ago, I think he needs a new trainer.

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

31 minutes ago, RobR said:

Considering this was from a week ago, I think he needs a new trainer.

Another “Maccagnan Special”.

I hope he has someone who will invest his first contract for him wisely and not take advantage of him.  Because I’m calling it right now.  He’s not getting a second one, and will be out of the league.

[More Cowbell]

6 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I feel like Quinnen should be a 3-4 end where he won’t get beat to sh*t as much. He might be miscast as a DT. He gives me Shaun Ellis vibes in that we’re going to waste some of his career playing out of position

I rhink Q is one of those rare players that you can play inside or outside. 

[14 in Green]

17 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

I rhink Q is one of those rare players that you can play inside or outside. 

Like I said earlier, I like QW and think he’s going to play better this season.

I think we should hold off on the “he’s one of those rare players...” stuff until he actually does play better though.

As of today, there is absolutely nothing “rare” about him. Saying he was “Average” would be pushing it.

[BurnleyJet]

7 hours ago, T0mShane said:

What’s painful about this is that Hicks is a good comparison for standard but no living person would ever go back in time and draft Akiem Hicks in the first round, much less at 3 overall

Yes leave the Edge Rusher on the board..

The memory of Mike Maccagnan nearly gives me a thrombosis. How many poor decisions can one guy make!

Q is a 4-3 DT, he’s not a NT, not is he’s not a 3-4 DE.

We drafted a player at 3, that didn’t even fit the scheme we run.

Is he getting on the field, and If so where will they play him? - Will he miss games over the gun nonsense?