Popular Post Jetster Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 Has this organization ever had so many options laid out in front of them? Keep Sam? Trade Sam? Draft a QB at #2? Trade back and still draft one? Sign a free agent veteran? Maybe trade for Watson if available? Build one of the best Olines in the NFL? It's completely doable with free agents + Pennei Sewell. Sign a veteran WR or roll with Mims, #23 & Crowder. Fix the defense with a couple of free agent pass rushers? Trade for Lattimore? Bring in Salehs guys from San Fran, Hyder & Sherman? Never in 52 years of being a Jet fan have I seen so many options in one offseason. 2021 will define Joe Douglas career based on the assets he has, the connections he's built & now the good will Saleh brings with him regarding players that would love to play for him. Every day I read different scenarios based on what fans want to do & they differ sharply, in fact it's why I started this thread because most Jet fans (sans the pessimistic darksiders) see how great of an opportunity Douglas has in front of him to push the Jets forward with possibly the best decade of football we've ever witnessed if he hits on his QB decision & follows that up with at least a 75% hit on everything else he decides to do. We cant miss on free agent targets this year. The recruiting needs to lead to closing the deal on who they want as NY Jets. The arrow needs to be pointing up for this team heading into 2022 with hopefully even more the 9 draft picks to plug the holes we determine to fill in 2021 but don't. We've wanted a GM in here for years that could finally build a team properly & this guy has to be our savior. I can't even imagine the conversations that have already started in Florham Park & wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall? The Jets hold a lot of the cards this offseason picking at #2 when everyone knows the Jaguars start off the draft taking Trevor Lawrence. We'll be back in the spotlight in the draft, thankfully with the stigma of Adam Gase gone & a respected NFL coach at the helm. Over the last 10 years you almost had to feel bad for players hearing, THE NEW YORK JETS SELECT and then hearing their name. Sure it's great to be in the NFL but as all of you know, in the media the Jets are cast as the Washington Generals. I think when players here their name this year, associated with the New York Jets they'll be truly excited for a brighter future here. Could you imagine keeping Gase after 2-14 & you hear your name called when the Jets are on the clock? This is it. This is what Joe Douglas set himself up for. Let's pray he's more Ozzie Newsome than John Idzik. This draft will probably determine our success over the next decade. Big stuff! 15 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggy001 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Well written. JD has some big decisions to make, this off season likely determines his success..and it will all start with the QB. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammybighead Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 You’re absolutely right. If we had the #1 pick, there would be no options. Winning those couple games certainly added intrigue to the offseason. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dbatesman Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 incredibly numerous 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sheastadiumjetfan Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 Couldn,'t agree more with this post Jetster! These are defining moments for the franchise... Plus for once ......we have a genuine football GM who keeps his cards close to his vest and doesn't even leak an inkling of what we are doing unless its to raise the draft stock of a player we may want to unload. It's becoming a Very different atmosphere in Floral Park as seen from a Jets fan thats seen it all over 50 years . Outside of the Bill Parcells years , we have had incompetence from management and coaching . Years of deplorable management have made this franchise a laughingstock. And because of that We have become the old Chicago Cubs. A quick turn around can be done-look at the Browns for god sake! We now have reasons to be Very optimistic this year We have vastly improved HC , assistant coaches, Multiple high Draft picks and FA dollars to spend with a trustworthy staff calling the shots and running the team decisions we may be building something extraordinary here 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Signing Watson would have such a huge effect on our Free Agency signings. Hopefully if we sign him it's before FA starts so we can most likely have the pick of the WRs and possibly other players that would want to play with Watson and for Saleh. I'm concerned we won't have the WR options if our QB situation is up in the air. I think we would need to know our direction by then - you can't sell to a WR free agent - hold tight, you'll know who your QB is in a month. That won't work. They should be able to say by then it's Sam, Watson or Wilson. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 32EBoozer Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 29 minutes ago, Jetster said: most Jet fans (sans the pessimistic darksiders) see how great of an opportunity Douglas has in front of him to push the Jets forward with possibly the best decade of football we've ever witnessed if he hits on his QB decision & follows that up with at least a 75% hit on everything else he decides to do. The QB is the the fulcrum in determining the next 10 years of Jet football. If JD nails it (Watson) or defers by drafting & developing a QB are the only 2 viable means to turn this franchise into a viable contender year after year. Surrounding them with a plethora of 2nd-4th round talent. Sticking with Sam and building the team around him will doom us to a Raiders, Colts, Browns & Vikings type future. Close but never getting over the top. Drafting the likes of Khalil Mack & David Nelson who are All Pro but lacking the franchise QB can never reach the mountaintop. All 1st round studs who require huge contracts to retain. We have four 1st round picks these next 2 years and a middling QB. After Sam reclamation fails we’ll be back at square 1... no QB 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share Posted February 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, sheastadiumjetfan said: Couldn,'t agree more with this post Jetster! These are defining moments for the franchise... Plus for once ......we have a genuine football GM who keeps his cards close to his vest and doesn't even leak an inkling of what we are doing unless its to raise the draft stock of a player we may want to unload. It's becoming a Very different atmosphere in Floral Park as seen from a Jets fan thats seen it all over 50 years . Outside of the Bill Parcells years , we have had incompetence from management and coaching . Years of deplorable management have made this franchise a laughingstock. And because of that We have become the old Chicago Cubs. A quick turn around can be done-look at the Browns for god sake! We now have reasons to be Very optimistic this year We have vastly improved HC , assistant coaches, Multiple high Draft picks and FA dollars to spend with a trustworthy staff calling the shots and running the team decisions we may be building something extraordinary here Though Saleh is a defensive coach, if you look at ways to HELP your defense, one of the biggest aids is an offense that can take the air out of the ball, wear down opposing defenses & score in the Redzone. I think Joe Douglas & Saleh will agree that building one of the best Olines in the league after QB is of the utmost importance! You look at the Eagles Oline during their run to the Super Bowl & the 49ers balanced attack & the Oline they put together there with Trent Williams, McLinchey ect. Jets will be VERY ACTIVE regarding the Oline. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, Greensleeves said: Signing Watson would have such a huge effect on our Free Agency signings. Hopefully if we sign him it's before FA starts so we can most likely have the pick of the WRs and possibly other players that would want to play with Watson and for Saleh. I'm concerned we won't have the WR options if our QB situation is up in the air. I think we would need to know our direction by then - you can't sell to a WR free agent - hold tight, you'll know who your QB is in a month. That won't work. They should be able to say by then it's Sam, Watson or Wilson. The WR's are going to go where they are paid the most regardless of who the QB is. They arent going to take a pay cut to play with Watson and fortunately we are in a good financial place this year. Regardless, I wouldnt get my hopes up for Robinson, I think he will cost more than JD wants tp spend. Either way we have this year and next to build this team. There is a hell of a lot of opportunity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, dbatesman said: incredibly numerous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Yeah a ton of options, for sure. But let's be honest. In reality JD has 2 options with (at least with the critical #2 overall pick)- go after Watson or take a QB at #2. And if not for this Watson drama it would just be a matter of Fields or Wilson. Similar drama that we see every year with the remaining 2 of the top 3 QBs. Anyone who thinks Darnold has any real future with the Jets is kidding themselves. All pf these other options in lieu would only make sense if JD absolutely did not believe in Fields or Wilson as a potential FQB and I don't see that. Fact is, the Jets may never again find themselves in a position to draft a FQB if they pass on Fields/Wilson this year and JD knows it. It's QB or bust IMO. Having said that, I'm super excited. If teh rumors are true that he Jets can get a low first rounder for Darnold, if the rumors are true that Watson will force his way out and possibly go to the Jets. Thats awesome! I also like both Wilson and Fileds. I thinks both will be upgrades over Darnold and make an immediate impact. I particularly like Wilson but his surgeries also concern me. FA should be exciting too, as well as the rest of the draft. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 35 minutes ago, dbatesman said: incredibly numerous The only reason I opened the thread. 35 minutes too late. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, TeddEY said: The only reason I opened the thread. 35 minutes too late. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Draft picks rarely are impactful year 1.. Most will take 2 years minimum. Some years are just bad to sign FAs. We have to hope this isn’t one of those years. Getting guys Saleh knows will help in that regards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 45 minutes ago, dbatesman said: incredibly numerous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 This is what a true rebuild looks like. We have never done it before. And we will have another 2nd or 3rd round pick when we trade darnold very soon. Very exciting time to be a jets fan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, jetspenguin said: The WR's are going to go where they are paid the most regardless of who the QB is. They arent going to take a pay cut to play with Watson and fortunately we are in a good financial place this year. Regardless, I wouldnt get my hopes up for Robinson, I think he will cost more than JD wants tp spend. Either way we have this year and next to build this team. There is a hell of a lot of opportunity. Mostly true but then there's Sammy Watkins who is at least one exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 44 minutes ago, Jetster said: Though Saleh is a defensive coach, if you look at ways to HELP your defense, one of the biggest aids is an offense that can take the air out of the ball, wear down opposing defenses & score in the Redzone. I think Joe Douglas & Saleh will agree that building one of the best Olines in the league after QB is of the utmost importance! You look at the Eagles Oline during their run to the Super Bowl & the 49ers balanced attack & the Oline they put together there with Trent Williams, McLinchey ect. Jets will be VERY ACTIVE regarding the Oline. excellent point. if they scored more than a piddily 17 points per game maybe we wouldn't even having a lot of these discussions. if saleh is a top defensive coach then he will also know what kind of offenses will work best. i think all of these top coaches know what adversaries give them the most fits. even rex had a clue. the question is whether or not he will run the whole team or try to put his stamp on the defense alone and let lefleur run the offense. imo that would be a huge mistake. the whole notion of keeping one's foot on the gas should apply to the whole team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Wow so many options 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share Posted February 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Wow so many options Thank you for your input. Now go play in traffic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 First but first mostly, in a manager of speaking, I very much agree for numerous reasons. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, Jetster said: Thank you for your input. Now go play in traffic. You’re not my dad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, kdels62 said: You’re not my dad Well at least you’ve exposed yourself as a child Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 To quote the great Paul Pasqualoni, the Jets have a "multitude of options." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, PepPep said: Yeah a ton of options, for sure. But let's be honest. In reality JD has 2 options with (at least with the critical #2 overall pick)- go after Watson or take a QB at #2. And if not for this Watson drama it would just be a matter of Fields or Wilson. Similar drama that we see every year with the remaining 2 of the top 3 QBs. Anyone who thinks Darnold has any real future with the Jets is kidding themselves. All pf these other options in lieu would only make sense if JD absolutely did not believe in Fields or Wilson as a potential FQB and I don't see that. Fact is, the Jets may never again find themselves in a position to draft a FQB if they pass on Fields/Wilson this year and JD knows it. It's QB or bust IMO. Having said that, I'm super excited. If teh rumors are true that he Jets can get a low first rounder for Darnold, if the rumors are true that Watson will force his way out and possibly go to the Jets. Thats awesome! I also like both Wilson and Fileds. I thinks both will be upgrades over Darnold and make an immediate impact. I particularly like Wilson but his surgeries also concern me. FA should be exciting too, as well as the rest of the draft. I don’t think he or Saleh view the qb situation you do. Playing with sam on the 4th year of his rookie contract in one last chance to develop into something is very much in play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: To quote the great Paul Pasqualoni, the Jets have a "multitude of options." “We’re very multiple.” Always killed me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Jetster said: Has this organization ever had so many options laid out in front of them? #HT2AG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 This thread is super calla fragile istic exped allah docious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 The power of the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Good post. This is the most important 3 months of Douglas's professional life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 hours ago, 32EBoozer said: The QB is the the fulcrum in determining the next 10 years of Jet football. If JD nails it (Watson) or defers by drafting & developing a QB are the only 2 viable means to turn this franchise into a viable contender year after year. Surrounding them with a plethora of 2nd-4th round talent. Sticking with Sam and building the team around him will doom us to a Raiders, Colts, Browns & Vikings type future. Close but never getting over the top. Drafting the likes of Khalil Mack & David Nelson who are All Pro but lacking the franchise QB can never reach the mountaintop. All 1st round studs who require huge contracts to retain. We have four 1st round picks these next 2 years and a middling QB. After Sam reclamation fails we’ll be back at square 1... no QB They're not sticking with Sam. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: They're not sticking with Sam. Unless they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 32 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: To quote the great Paul Pasqualoni, the Jets have a "multitude of options." The Jets have a plethora of options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, undertow said: This thread is super calla fragile istic exped allah docious Funny you mention that.... I was looking for a GIF with that but had to settle for “...these are a few of my favorite things” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Jet Front Office options: "incredibly numerous"... Jet Fans reactions: "incredibly nervous"... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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