sec101row23 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Chrebetfan80 said: I went a wildly different approach than I have with this one... I said to myself that JD will add at least 1 higher priced FA on Offense and try to bring in depth players that can pop later in the draft, while using the early picks to fix a historically bad defense. I traded down but ended up getting picks in this draft and nothing for next year. I think because of the injury Metchie is going to be a really good value in this draft. He’s a pretty good all around receiver who can play different roles, something this coaching staff prioritizes. Pairing him with London gives the Jets a great young receiver core. Add in McBride and Cook and you have a solid group of young offensive players. Moore, London, Metchie at WR, Carter and Cook at RB and McBride and Whyle at TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 32 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: I think because of the injury Metchie is going to be a really good value in this draft. He’s a pretty good all around receiver who can play different roles, something this coaching staff prioritizes. Pairing him with London gives the Jets a great young receiver core. Add in McBride and Cook and you have a solid group of young offensive players. Moore, London, Metchie at WR, Carter and Cook at RB and McBride and Whyle at TE. what i love about all of that is I think it fits into what I think JD's approach will be to this draft. Premiere Defensive talent early, with a WR and TE mixed in.. Then offensive help late where I think a guy like metchie will be able to be gotten and we've already discussed the TE depth later. I also think RB late is really good too. When i say late i mean RD 3-5. I think of the jets first 4 picks 3 will probably be defensively. If they trade down hopefully they get another 2nd in the deal to be able to go 3-2 d to o If the jets can trade down it really opens up this draft big time for them to come away with an impressive haul to solidify a foundation for this team. If Wilson for some reason never turns it around well at least you should have a really good young team thats ready to compete for a new qb (ie the buffalo model). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I'm starting to worry about this draft a lot. Unlike previous years I hate the early part of the draft options for the jets in almost every mock. I guess I have to wait for combine and all star games and pro days to see ho the list gets shaken up. Right now we miss out on the top two pass rushers on every mock and are looking at Neal who I do not think Douglas will take and a bunch of safeties, dline and such. I don't love any WR really high. I like what I am seeing Re TES 2nd round and lower but our top two picks which in most years would be just awesomely placed are in no mans land, maybe we can hope a QB or two flies up the board so we can trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I'm starting to worry about this draft a lot. Unlike previous years I hate the early part of the draft options for the jets in almost every mock. I guess I have to wait for combine and all start games and pro days to see ho the list gets shaken up. Right now we miss out on the top two pass rushers on every mock and are looking at Neal who I do not think Douglas will take and a bunch of safeties, dline and such. I don't love any WR really high. I like what I am seeing Re TES 2nd round and lower but our top two picks which in most years would be just awesomely placed are in no mans land, maybe we can hope a QB or two flies up the board so we can trade. A trade like what the Eagles did last year with the Dolphins would be amazing. Trade down 6 spots, and pick up an additional 1 the following year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 50 minutes ago, Beerfish said: I'm starting to worry about this draft a lot. Unlike previous years I hate the early part of the draft options for the jets in almost every mock. I guess I have to wait for combine and all start games and pro days to see ho the list gets shaken up. Right now we miss out on the top two pass rushers on every mock and are looking at Neal who I do not think Douglas will take and a bunch of safeties, dline and such. I don't love any WR really high. I like what I am seeing Re TES 2nd round and lower but our top two picks which in most years would be just awesomely placed are in no mans land, maybe we can hope a QB or two flies up the board so we can trade. As it stand right now, I think we have to move up to land one of those top two pass-rushers = the "all-in", "save our jobs" approach for Saleh/JD to get our version of Nick Bosa. Or we have to trade down to a team that needs Neal or one of the QB's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: I'm starting to worry about this draft a lot. Unlike previous years I hate the early part of the draft options for the jets in almost every mock. I guess I have to wait for combine and all start games and pro days to see ho the list gets shaken up. Right now we miss out on the top two pass rushers on every mock and are looking at Neal who I do not think Douglas will take and a bunch of safeties, dline and such. I don't love any WR really high. I like what I am seeing Re TES 2nd round and lower but our top two picks which in most years would be just awesomely placed are in no mans land, maybe we can hope a QB or two flies up the board so we can trade. hopefully the normal QB rise pushes one of those top 2 pass rushers down to us. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: hopefully the normal QB rise pushes one of those top 2 pass rushers down to us. It’s been odd. No QB buzz at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Jets X Factor has a pretty cool mock off-season tool. Here’s my take 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 I keep getting Hutchinson dropping to 4 on PFN simulator. This draft would make me jizz in my pants. 4. Aidan Hutchinson EDGE Michigan 18. Tyler Linderbaum OC Iowa 36. Jaquan Brisker S Penn State 39. Isaiah Likely TE Coastal Carolina 49. Jahan Dotson WR Penn State 68. Henry To'o To'o LB Alabama 103. Jalyn Armour-Davis CB Alabama 109. Owen Pappoe LB Auburn 111. Trae Barry TE Boston College Trade Details Received: Pick 7 - DeMarvin Leal Received: Pick 18 Pick 49 Pick 103 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 15 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said: As it stand right now, I think we have to move up to land one of those top two pass-rushers = the "all-in", "save our jobs" approach for Saleh/JD to get our version of Nick Bosa. Or we have to trade down to a team that needs Neal or one of the QB's. I'd trade down, because I dont think these pass rushers are a Bosa/Von Miller type of prospect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 New starting RG and C (2022 Line of Becton/ AVT/ Patterson/ Green/Fant - Patterson becomes the luckiest C on the planet playing between AVT and Green and the days of teams pressuring the middle of the Jets O line are over) Edge Rusher to start or add to the Lawson/Huff rotation Starting LB and depth LB Bigger RB (5'11" 220lbs) to pair with Carter and who has a history with our QB New Dynamic Duo at TE with one (Ruckert) who is a hellacious blocker too Freakishly athletic physical 6'3" 205lbs CB who was a WR until last season 4. Kenyon Green OG Texas A&M 7. George Karlaftis EDGE Purdue 36. Brandon Smith LB Penn State 39. Jalen Wydermyer TE Texas A&M 68. Jarrett Patterson OC Notre Dame 109. Tyler Allgeier RB BYU 111. Owen Pappoe LB Auburn 146. Tariq Woolen CB UTSA 157. Jeremy Ruckert TE Ohio State 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Edge Rusher And the trade back draft to land Linderbaum making it Becton/AVT/Linderbaum/Johnson/Fant Bigger Versatile RB in Spiller TE Dynamic Duo Starting LB and depth LB Big physical athletic CB 4. George Karlaftis EDGE Purdue 17. Tyler Linderbaum OC Iowa 36. Isaiah Spiller RB Texas A&M 39. Zion Johnson OG Boston College 48. Brandon Smith LB Penn State 68. Martin Emerson CB Mississippi State 109. Jahleel Billingsley TE Alabama 146. Jeremy Ruckert TE Ohio State 157. Terrel Bernard LB Baylor 2023 CIN 2nd Trade Details Received: Pick 7 - Evan Neal Pick 111 - SirVocea Dennis Received: Pick 17 Pick 48 2023 CIN 2nd 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jets723 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 5:19 PM, Beerfish said: I'm starting to worry about this draft a lot. Unlike previous years I hate the early part of the draft options for the jets in almost every mock. I guess I have to wait for combine and all star games and pro days to see ho the list gets shaken up. Right now we miss out on the top two pass rushers on every mock and are looking at Neal who I do not think Douglas will take and a bunch of safeties, dline and such. I don't love any WR really high. I like what I am seeing Re TES 2nd round and lower but our top two picks which in most years would be just awesomely placed are in no mans land, maybe we can hope a QB or two flies up the board so we can trade. I think we will trade down with one of our firsts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 31 minutes ago, Jets723 said: I think we will trade down with one of our firsts We may want to consider doing this to push draft capital forward to 2023. Sliding down could put us in a better position to draft need at better value depending on how it falls. Given all the picks we already have adding additional picks in this draft may not be ideal - you don't really want to have too many rookies going into a season where we really need to start to see more W's. There's also the realistic possibility we're looking QB yet again in 2023, so having more draft capital there would be ideal. Even if we aren't looking QB in 2023, preserving that draft capital would be nice. For example, if both the top pass rushers are off the board and some team offers us a 2023 first to slide down to the middle of the first we can target some of the next tier pass rushers, LBrs or top tier IOL like Linderbaum or Greene there. Hell - even the top safety would be more palatable if we took him mid first round. I'm really hoping some QB's start pushing up to the top of the draft conversation so we can just have one of those top pass rushers fall to us. Pushing draft capital forward would be an ok consolation prize. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Hutchinson falls to us, WFT gives us an opportunity to push draft capital forward to 2023 and we land Linderbaum. Hells yea Trade Details Received: Pick 7 - George Karlaftis Received: Pick 19 2023 WAS 1st 2023 WAS 2nd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 4. Aidan Hutchinson: Hutchinson falls for some reason. No brainer here. EDGE Michigan 7. Ikem Ekwonu: I think Ekwonu will be a big time riser in the draft and end up as one of the top 3 OT/G prospects in the draft. Perfect versatile, plug and play lineman to add as the Jets continue to build their young, dominant offensive line. OT North Carolina State 36. Jaquan Brisker: Assuming Maye is gone the biggest weakness at one of the most critical positions on the Jets defense is Safety. Brisker is one of the most athletic, NFL ready safeties in the class and would make an immediate impact. I see him as a day 1 starter. S Penn State 39. Jalen Wydermyer: Now this isn't a selection I think the Jets would make. BUT if Wydermyer was still on the board, no way I pass on the best pass catching athlete at the TE position in this draft. Great target and weapon for Zach. Maybe not the best blocker or fit? I dunno. But as a receiving threat, who's skills should translate to the NFL, he is unmatched in this draft. TE Texas A&M 68. Romeo Doubs: I could see Doubs as another X receiver prospect or potentially the guys we were hoping Mims would become. He has legitimate deep speed, great athleticism and size. WR Nevada 109. Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson: Big-bodied, athletic corner who reacts and tackles exceptionally well. Soli coverage skills. Good fit for Saleh's secondary. Keep adding skilled players to the CB corps. CB TCU 111. Kyren Williams: Jets add another RB to pair with Carter. RB Notre Dame 146. Channing Tindall LB Georgia 157. Ali Gaye First four picks turned out really well. Doubt we draft most of these guys though. It rarely works out this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 Got the edge, traded back for a 23 first, and grabbed Wilson a number 1 receiver. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJet Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Yesterday made me want to stop the run, protect Zach and get him some weapons he can throw short passes to. Getting Pitt's 1st next year which could be pretty high was an added bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Almost perfect imo 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 First 3 rounds. I’d be thrilled with this but probably not realistic at all lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Hal N of Provo said: First 3 rounds. I’d be thrilled with this but probably not realistic at all lol. That is a dream, but no way he slides to 35 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 My latest: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said: My latest: I loved leal before the season, but he’s been having a rough go at it. It seems like he gained a bunch of weight and lost some burst and quickness. Currently I wouldn’t touch him in the top 10. Maybe even top 15. He has potential for sure tho I just don’t know if it’ll be edge or 3 tech 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Green Truth Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 New one for the week Since the 2 top edges were off the board and I am not crazy about Karlaftis. Traded down got the Jets/Wilson another weapon on offense and grabbed the 4th best edge in this class. Grabbed another edge later. If the defense Saleh runs, is predicated on the d-line being dominant and Carl Lawson being a question mark. The Jets need to double dip here in a deep edge class. Took Salyer as a RG. Listed as a tackle on PFN, but he is rated as a top 100 player at guard. Can play tackle in a pinch also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 No trade offered out of 4. Got out of 8 moving some draft capital to 2023 and picking up another 2nd. Trade Details Received: Pick 8 - Andrew Booth Jr. Received: Pick 18 Pick 50 2023 BAL 2nd 2023 BAL 6th Smoke Monday is an interesting mid-round S prospect. Good, fearless tackler with pretty good athleticism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 I'm not going to lie, I left like an alcoholic falling off the wagon doing this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 2 hours ago, maury77 said: I'm not going to lie, I left like an alcoholic falling off the wagon doing this. Seems a bit early to me to take Metchie at 35. Especially for a team like the Jets -- I don't want to take a guy that high who may not be ready for the start of the season. Wilson needs weapons, I would rather not be picking a guy on day 2 that we knonw might have to miss a good chunk of the season.I might prefer a Wilson/Williams at 4 with Ojabo at 8, and then OL/LB at 35 & 40. Unless a couple of QBs shoot up draft boards throughout the process, 4 is kind of no man's land in this draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 49 minutes ago, Lith said: Seems a bit early to me to take Metchie at 35. Especially for a team like the Jets -- I don't want to take a guy that high who may not be ready for the start of the season. Wilson needs weapons, I would rather not be picking a guy on day 2 that we knonw might have to miss a good chunk of the season.I might prefer a Wilson/Williams at 4 with Ojabo at 8, and then OL/LB at 35 & 40. Unless a couple of QBs shoot up draft boards throughout the process, 4 is kind of no man's land in this draft. This is the general framework I'm starting to lean towards. Possible WR/edge flip flop and I think tight end and maybe safety are in play in round 2 as well. Wouldn’t be mad about another edge in round two either or someone like Travon Walker if he slides that far. But think this general idea makes the most sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Lith said: Seems a bit early to me to take Metchie at 35. Especially for a team like the Jets -- I don't want to take a guy that high who may not be ready for the start of the season. Wilson needs weapons, I would rather not be picking a guy on day 2 that we knonw might have to miss a good chunk of the season.I might prefer a Wilson/Williams at 4 with Ojabo at 8, and then OL/LB at 35 & 40. Unless a couple of QBs shoot up draft boards throughout the process, 4 is kind of no man's land in this draft. At 4, the top 3 picks were Hamilton, Hutch and Thibs (yeesh). So it was Ikem or Neal for me (I don't think Saleh or Douglas value the CB position enough to pick one that high). I went with Ikem over Neal based upon what I read about each on TDN. Ikem seems like a very good fit for the wide zone and I think you can play him at RG for a season. I really wanted to grab an edge rusher with the next pick and I like what I've seen from Ojabo. At that point, I really wanted to grab a skill position player in the second. I came close to grabbing the Michigan State RB, but I didn't like his weaknesses in the passing game. I agree with your point about Metchie, but reading about his route running and YAC ability, he fits what the current Jets admin likes. While he may not contribute a lot as a rookie WR, that is often the case with that position anyway as they tend to flourish in year 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 It would never happen, but it would be glorious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 6. George Karlaftis EDGE Purdue 17. Tyler Linderbaum OC Iowa 35. David Bell WR Purdue 42. Brandon Smith LB Penn State 49. Isaiah Likely TE Coastal Carolina 69. Martin Emerson CB Mississippi State 77. Haskell Garrett DT Ohio State 81. Abraham Lucas OT Washington State 109. Chris Hinton DT Michigan 145. Smoke Monday S Auburn 158. Ali Gaye EDGE LSU 2023 LAC 2nd Trade Details Received: Pick 4 - Kayvon Thibodeaux Received: Pick 17 Pick 49 Pick 81 2023 LAC 2nd Trade Details Received: Pick 38 - Sean Rhyan Pick 115 - Kaleb Eleby Received: Pick 42 Pick 77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Not mine, but imagine the reaction ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 On 12/27/2021 at 9:34 AM, chirorob said: It would never happen, but it would be glorious. This would be ridiculous, and awesome. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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