JD Press Conference 9/1

[rangerous]

isn't austin on his contract year?  even if he was better than the younger the guys the jets would probably lose him after this season.  since they are probably thinking they're not making the play offs what's the point?  now austin can latch on with another team and hopefully have some success with a contender.  the jets will have their cornerback core the way they want them.

[SAR I]

50 minutes ago, Larz said:

So the drafted corners couldn’t beat out bless……so you cut bless?

Joe Douglas is a genius.  We're not allowed to criticize him.

SAR I

[Long Island Leprechaun]

1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

James morgan has zero chance of replacing anyone.  If Darnold broke his arm in game one morgan would still be 3rd string after the panthers go get a vet.

Ye jest, me bucko. To the yard arm, you scurvy scaliwag. 

[Beerfish]

22 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

Ye jest, me bucko. To the yard arm, you scurvy scaliwag. 

The rum liquor cabinet I made:

 

[Chrebetfan80]

1 hour ago, Larz said:

Not on merit.  They just got rid of the better player. It’s bizarre. 

The way I take it from a coaching standpoint is that they feel like Bless had maxed out his ability.  While he was probably better currently than the rookies drafted, their upside and development is more worth while than having bless take those reps to just be the player he is now. 

As a coach, I have always been in the mindset the best way to get better at playing football is by actually playing football. Its also a very common theme of sometimes, in years when you know youre not going to be pushing for a championship starting some younger guys if the gap is close because them getting better and making a jump is more valuable than an older player. 

I can see why fans are going to be frustrated this year knowing JD could have signed some more established players to fill holes and maybe put together a few more wins, but at the end of the day if these players show steady development, this team is in a far better position next year than with signing stop gap players. 

[Long Island Leprechaun]

1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

The rum liquor cabinet I made:

 

LOL. Morgan got the boot; you got the booty.

[Beerfish]

7 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

LOL. Morgan got the boot; you got the booty.

Snort!  If you notice I do have a bottle of captain morgan among the 6 bottles.

[Long Island Leprechaun]

11 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Snort!  If you notice I do have a bottle of captain morgan among the 6 bottles.

Between you and Carolina, I think you got the better Captain Morgan

[Jetstream]

1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said:

Frankly, I don’t think bless is JD or Saleh’s type of player because he’s undisciplined and tends to mouth off without backing it up with a high level of play on the field.

I say this is the reason... most likely they found him not as coach-able

[Jet Nut]

2 hours ago, Larz said:

So the drafted corners couldn’t beat out bless……so you cut bless?

Kind of didnt hear that.  Probably because he didnt come close to saying that

[Jet Nut]

2 hours ago, Larz said:

So the drafted corners couldn’t beat out bless……so you cut bless?

No one heard this but you keep repeating yourself

At least you ask in the form of a question so we get that you arent too sure 

[Spoot-Face]

1 hour ago, SAR I said:

Don't want to hear your voice if you don't get 8 wins minimum, Joe. 

This ain't your 1st year.  It's your 3rd.

SAR I

*2nd offseason, but you do you Sar.

[Spoot-Face]

1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

The rum liquor cabinet I made:

 

@DPR would love this.

[Sonny Werblin]

24 minutes ago, Jetstream said:

I say this is the reason... most likely they found him not as coach-able

“I come to camp looking forward to getting my next contract,” Austin said. “I don’t worry about who’s starting or none of that. I think I’m the real deal. There’s no secret to that.“

An attempt of addition by subtraction if you ask me.

[kevinc855]

Joe entering his 4th season. “We just want to get better each week”

Hey Joe, eventually this team Has to go to the playoffs or whyyyy else are you here again? 

[Warfish]

2 hours ago, Larz said:

Not on merit.  They just got rid of the better player. It’s bizarre. 

Apparently not to Coach Saleh and JD.

Is it possible that some Jets Fans simply overinvest emotionally in fringe players, and that guys like Saleh don't hold them in the same regard as "Larz at JN" does?

 

[Alka]

2 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

I mean his answer is right there. The players THEY drafted. If Bless was a Douglas pick he is still in the roster.

Can't you read between the lines?  He wasn't good enough to keep.  They cut him because he wasn't good enough.

Maybe Quinnen Williams should be cut because he wasn't a Joe Douglas draft pick?  

I don't think so!

[Prodigal Syndicate]

4 minutes ago, Alka said:

Can't you read between the lines?  He wasn't good enough to keep.  They cut him because he wasn't good enough.

Maybe Quinnen Williams should be cut because he wasn't a Joe Douglas draft pick?  

I don't think so!

He was objectively better than some of other CB's we kept. 

[Alka]

49 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

He was objectively better than some of other CB's we kept. 

All gas!  No brake!

That is not just a slogan.  If Bless had the talent as you suggest, then there can be other reasons why he was cut.  Perhaps his effort wasn't good enough.  Maybe he was lackadaisical.  Maybe Bless thought that he deserved the starting job because of his enormous talent.

He could have been better in one sense, and not nearly as good in another sense.  

In Joe Douglas we must trust.  I know I do.

[SAR I]

1 hour ago, Spoot-Face said:

*2nd offseason, but you do you Sar.

3rd season.  He made many moves in 2018 including Kare Vedvik and Ryan Kalil.

Stop covering for this below-average talent evaluator.  

SAR I

[Jetsfan80]

4 hours ago, kdels62 said:

That’s a good tweet

The Panthers sure love their Jet failures.  Former Jets on their roster (4 of them are starters):

• QB Sam Darnold
• QB James Morgan
• RB Trenton Cannon
• WR Robby Anderson
• LG Pat Elflein
• SS Juston Burris

[Wit]

3 hours ago, SAR I said:

Don't want to hear your voice if you don't get 8 wins minimum, Joe. 

This ain't your 1st year.  It's your 3rd.

SAR I

Setting the table nicely…

[Wit]

3 hours ago, SAR I said:

Joe Douglas is a genius.  We're not allowed to criticize him.

SAR I

He wasn’t also saddled with a human wrecking ball as his head coach. It wasn’t the other way around .

[SAR I]

32 minutes ago, Wit said:

He wasn’t also saddled with a human wrecking ball as his head coach. It wasn’t the other way around .

Joe Douglas has been here 3 years.  Two drafts, three free agency periods.

And he inherited a rebuild-in-progress where Mike Maccagnan had already started gutting the roster and stockpiling draft capital per the orders of Christopher Johnson in 2017.

And he had more time than any GM in NFL history to prepare for his first draft having been hired right after the draft.

And his 2020 draft looks terrible.  And his table-scraps approach to free agency looks terrible.

And he took a 7 win team built by a moron and turned it into a 2 win team that most think can only be capable of 5 wins this year.

That's one sh-t resume.

SAR I

[Spoot-Face]

1 hour ago, SAR I said:

3rd season.  He made many moves in 2018 including Kare Vedvik and Ryan Kalil.

Stop covering for this below-average talent evaluator.  

SAR I

[Wit]

1 hour ago, SAR I said:

Joe Douglas has been here 3 years.  Two drafts, three free agency periods.

And he inherited a rebuild-in-progress where Mike Maccagnan had already started gutting the roster and stockpiling draft capital per the orders of Christopher Johnson in 2017.

And he had more time than any GM in NFL history to prepare for his first draft having been hired right after the draft.

And his 2020 draft looks terrible.  And his table-scraps approach to free agency looks terrible.

And he took a 7 win team built by a moron and turned it into a 2 win team that most think can only be capable of 5 wins this year.

That's one sh-t resume.

SAR I

Was he given a head coach? You can try and compile talent but he had a terrible scouting department and head coach. He literally crushed the team last year with his ineptitude. 

[nickfoshizal]

4 hours ago, SAR I said:

Joe Douglas has been here 3 years.  Two drafts, three free agency periods.

And he inherited a rebuild-in-progress where Mike Maccagnan had already started gutting the roster and stockpiling draft capital per the orders of Christopher Johnson in 2017.

And he had more time than any GM in NFL history to prepare for his first draft having been hired right after the draft.

And his 2020 draft looks terrible.  And his table-scraps approach to free agency looks terrible.

And he took a 7 win team built by a moron and turned it into a 2 win team that most think can only be capable of 5 wins this year.

That's one sh-t resume.

SAR I

No really I’m all aboard with bathe whole mandate, quick question though, if we don’t win 8 games this year do we move to London? Or is it more of an apocalypse scenario, aliens show up to put us out of our collective misery cuz we finish 4th in the division instead of 3rd, or something we create like idk starting WWIII with the storming of Florham Park? I mean I guess we should just fire Douglas but I don’t see how New York Jets football can continue if we don’t win 8 games this year dammit. 

[WowOhWow]

10 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

I was all aboard the "Backup QBs don't matter" train until Luke Falk @PHI happened.

That's not the sort of horror any fan should have to witness.

I was at that game.  Worst Jets showing I’ve ever experienced (had season tickets for all of Kotites tenure).  Absolutely no shot to win or even compete in that game.  Stole my money 

[Sonny Werblin]

Query, why couldn’t JD pull off a trade of Bless Austin? Was no team willing to even give a 6th round draft pick for a corner on his rookie contract that started 16 games? There is more to Austin’s waiver than JD is acknowledging, and it’s consistent with his history of never saying anything negative about a player, even when it’s warranted.

[Claymation]

Query, why couldn’t JD pull off a trade of Bless Austin? Was no team willing to even give a 6th round draft pick for a corner on his rookie contract that started 16 games? There is more to Austin’s waiver than JD is acknowledging, and it’s consistent with his history of never saying anything negative about a player, even when it’s warranted.

Why would any team give anything of value for Bless?

[jamesr]

12 hours ago, SAR I said:

Don't want to hear your voice if you don't get 8 wins minimum, Joe. 

This ain't your 1st year.  It's your 3rd.

SAR I

Question for you on your "8 wins" mandate.

Consider the two following scenarios, and tell me which you would prefer:

1) We win 8 games, mostly against the weaker teams on our schedule. Margin of victory is mostly <7 points and they could have gone either way. In our 9 losses we have flashbacks to Gase last year - 20+ point losses are common, and we were never in the games at any point. But we get 8 wins.

2) We win 4 games, mostly against the weaker teams on our schedule. Margin of victory is decent in each and we never really looked like losing them. In the rest of our games, the majority of our losses are close losses - we are in the games at the death and they could have gone either way. None of our losses are by more than 14 points. But we only win 4 games.

Which do you feel shows more progress? Which do you feel shows a better team, and one that will contend in 2022?

[SAR I]

24 minutes ago, jamesr said:

Question for you on your "8 wins" mandate.

Consider the two following scenarios, and tell me which you would prefer:

1) We win 8 games, mostly against the weaker teams on our schedule. Margin of victory is mostly <7 points and they could have gone either way. In our 9 losses we have flashbacks to Gase last year - 20+ point losses are common, and we were never in the games at any point. But we get 8 wins.

2) We win 4 games, mostly against the weaker teams on our schedule. Margin of victory is decent in each and we never really looked like losing them. In the rest of our games, the majority of our losses are close losses - we are in the games at the death and they could have gone either way. None of our losses are by more than 14 points. But we only win 4 games.

Which do you feel shows more progress? Which do you feel shows a better team, and one that will contend in 2022?

We have been rebuilding since Suck For Sam in 2017.  If our new GM did a better job in 2020 we would be looking at playoffs.  So I reject your premise outright.  

We expect both 8 wins and looking competitive in every game.  We didn’t need to become an expansion team.  That wasn’t the intent.  Douglas gutted the team and hasn’t filled the holes he himself created.   

SAR I

[jamesr]

4 minutes ago, SAR I said:

We have been rebuilding since Suck For Sam in 2017.  If our new GM did a better job in 2020 we would be looking at playoffs.  So I reject your premise outright.  

We expect both 8 wins and looking competitive in every game.  We didn’t need to become an expansion team.  That wasn’t the intent.  Douglas gutted the team and hasn’t filled the holes he himself created.   

SAR I

"We"?    

[Sonny Werblin]

11 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

He was objectively better than some of other CB's we kept. 

and no team was willing to even send a 6th round pick to the Jets for him???

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

10 hours ago, SAR I said:

Joe Douglas has been here 3 years.  Two drafts, three free agency periods.

And he inherited a rebuild-in-progress where Mike Maccagnan had already started gutting the roster and stockpiling draft capital per the orders of Christopher Johnson in 2017.

And he had more time than any GM in NFL history to prepare for his first draft having been hired right after the draft.

And his 2020 draft looks terrible.  And his table-scraps approach to free agency looks terrible.

And he took a 7 win team built by a moron and turned it into a 2 win team that most think can only be capable of 5 wins this year.;

That's one sh-t resume.

SAR I