TJ Watt

[RedBeardedSavage]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/08/clock-ticks-toward-midnight-for-steelers-t-j-watt/

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As it relates to the T.J. Watt contract impasse, the clock is striking 12. Literally.

The Steelers will practice today at roughly 12:15 p.m. ET. If Watt doesn’t have a new deal, he may not be there. If he’s not there, he may not play on Sunday.

 

The problem continues to be the refusal of the team to abandon its refusal to fully guarantee money beyond the first year of a veteran deal. Apparently, the Steelers don’t want to set a new precedent for Watt.

But here’s the reality. If/when another player says, “But you did it for T.J. Watt!” the response would be, “Play like T.J. Watt, and we’ll do it for you.”

Stay tuned to PFT throughout the day for news on whether the Steelers do, or don’t, figure out how to end an unexpectedly protracted hold-in from one of the best pass rushers in the NFL.

Unlikely, sure. 

What would be an appropriate price to pay to acquire TJ Watt in a trade should this holdout continue?

[Dcat]

Just now, RedBeardedSavage said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/08/clock-ticks-toward-midnight-for-steelers-t-j-watt/

Unlikely, sure. 

What would be an appropriate price to pay to acquire TJ Watt in a trade should this holdout continue?

trade them Lev Bell?

[Fantasy Island]

7 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/08/clock-ticks-toward-midnight-for-steelers-t-j-watt/

Unlikely, sure. 

What would be an appropriate price to pay to acquire TJ Watt in a trade should this holdout continue?

3rd round draft pick

[Greenseed4]

I hold out from work all of the time.  

[DJF71]

Go get him JD!!

[Claymation]

11 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said:

I hold out from work all of the time.  

How's that working for you?

[nycdan]

Jamal Ad....no wait, that's not right.

But really...I'd send them both 2022 1st rounders plus our 2nd from CAR.

And it still wouldn't be nearly enough to make them answer the phone.

What's odd is that PIT has plenty of cap space.  So either Watt is asking for Mahomes money or they are being oddly stubborn. 

[clayton163v]

No, no, no, no.

Instead we wait until Pittsburgh blunders and lets him become an unrestricted free agent.  Then we pounce and he goes on to have a HOF career playing more than 20 years . . .

Hey Pittsburgh, you owe us.

[Stark]

14 minutes ago, clayton163v said:

No, no, no, no.

Instead we wait until Pittsburgh blunders and lets him become an unrestricted free agent.  Then we pounce and he goes on to have a HOF career playing more than 20 years . . .

Hey Pittsburgh, you owe us.

they will franchise tag him... these types of players don't get unrestricted free agency.

[clayton163v]

13 minutes ago, Stark said:

they will franchise tag him... these types of players don't get unrestricted free agency.

James Farrior. 

[Embrace the Suck]

1 hour ago, Claymation said:

How's that working for you?

[Jetsfan80]

If we could negotiate a new contract as part of making the deal, I'd give quite up a lot for Watt.  Maybe not a Khalil Mack or Jamal Adams (lol) package of picks if we could avoid it, but a lot. 

He's elite, and exactly the kind of talented EDGE we'd need to be looking for with our first pick in 2022 anyways.

[RutgersJetFan]

1 hour ago, Greenseed4 said:

I hold out from work all of the time.  

My job tosses 35-40 year olds out to pasture all the time.

[jeremy2020]

Watt wants to be paid like a QB. He's amazing. Don't get me wrong, but I have my doubts any DE is worth 28 mill a year until the cap goes up a fair amount. 

I think it would be difficult to pay a full roster with that and a QB salary. The Jets have Zach's rookie deal which means they could swing it I guess, but even in year 5, that rookie deal isn't the same level of bargain. 

[flgreen]

I can see the Steelers problem with a guaranteed contract.

JJ Watt.  75 sacks first 5 years.  25 sacks next 5 after monster contract.

[Origen]

They should just send him here for the memories of Doug Brien, James Farrior, and Lev Bell.

[Albaniajet]

1 hour ago, clayton163v said:

No, no, no, no.

Instead we wait until Pittsburgh blunders and lets him become an unrestricted free agent.  Then we pounce and he goes on to have a HOF career playing more than 20 years . . .

Hey Pittsburgh, you owe us.

Steelers aren’t letting him go for nothing. No way

[Albaniajet]

2 minutes ago, Origen said:

They should just send him here for the memories of Doug Brien, James Farrior, and Lev Bell.

Don’t forget the Santonio Holmes for Antonio Brown trade

[Albaniajet]

33 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

Watt wants to be paid like a QB. He's amazing. Don't get me wrong, but I have my doubts any DE is worth 28 mill a year until the cap goes up a fair amount. 

I think it would be difficult to pay a full roster with that and a QB salary. The Jets have Zach's rookie deal which means they could swing it I guess, but even in year 5, that rookie deal isn't the same level of bargain. 

Steelers window is about to get shut if it already isn’t.  Ben looked beyond cooked last month of last season — once he retires which is probably after this season they need to blow it up and rebuild

 

Trading Watt to us for picks would be a nice start

[Beerfish]

I love the negotiation skills of these teams Qbs when they ask them about hold out players.  Roethlisburger  "Just pay him whatever he wants."

[munchmemory]

7 minutes ago, Origen said:

They should just send him here for the memories of Doug Brien, James Farrior, and Lev Bell.

Or my personal favorite, Neil O'Donnell.  Guy shows up here after winning the SB, gets his payday, and proceeds to look like he'd never seen a football before.

[Greenseed4]

54 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

My job tosses 35-40 year olds out to pasture all the time.

Builds character 

[Albaniajet]

15 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

Or my personal favorite, Neil O'Donnell.  Guy shows up here after winning the SB, gets his payday, and proceeds to look like he'd never seen a football before.

That’s what happens when Leon Hess pays a qb for throwing 5 picks in the super bowl

[Greenseed4]

2 hours ago, Claymation said:

How's that working for you?

Well I haven’t TOLD anyone.

 

[RedBeardedSavage]

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2021/9/8/22663055/t-j-watt-a-full-participant-in-wednesdays-practice-pittsburgh-steelers-linebacker-news-updates

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

Give him a blank check

[defensedoesntgetyoulaid]

I think he should hold out until Monday

[chirorob]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

If we could negotiate a new contract as part of making the deal, I'd give quite up a lot for Watt.  Maybe not a Khalil Mack or Jamal Adams (lol) package of picks if we could avoid it, but a lot. 

He's elite, and exactly the kind of talented EDGE we'd need to be looking for with our first pick in 2022 anyways.

I'd say it would take almost exactly what it took to get Mack.

Both are coming off age 26 seasons.   Mack had 40 sacks in his first 4 seasons, TJ has 49 in his first 4 seasons.   My only question is can he play RDE at 250ish pounds, rather than OLB.

[Albaniajet]

1 minute ago, chirorob said:

I'd say it would take almost exactly what it took to get Mack.

Both are coming off age 26 seasons.   Mack had 40 sacks in his first 4 seasons, TJ has 49 in his first 4 seasons.   My only question is can he play RDE at 250ish pounds, rather than OLB.

Saleh was an assistant in Seattle for 3 years where they ran a 3-4

[Albaniajet]

The idea of QW and Watt in the same front 7

 

[Untouchable]

The Steelers aren’t dealing Watt.

He’s arguably the best edgerusher in the league and is just entering his prime.

But if they somehow did want to trade him, you give up both 1st’s next year in a jiffy and don’t think twice.

[chirorob]

36 minutes ago, Albaniajet said:

Saleh was an assistant in Seattle for 3 years where they ran a 3-4

No way they change the whole defense back to a 3-4 right after changing it to a 4-3.

And Pete Carroll runs a 4-3.

[jetstream23]

3 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/08/clock-ticks-toward-midnight-for-steelers-t-j-watt/

Unlikely, sure. 

What would be an appropriate price to pay to acquire TJ Watt in a trade should this holdout continue?

Shaq Lawson + next year's 1st rounder    + Dan Feeney

 

 

 

(Do you think they'll notice we sneak Feeney in there?)

[jetstream23]

41 minutes ago, Albaniajet said:

The idea of QW and Watt in the same front 7

 

 

And Carl Lawson coming back next year. ? 

 

[Barry McCockinner]

I've got a better chance of a threesome with a couple super models than the Jets do of trading for Watt. This is nothing but pure fantasy.