hmhertz Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 A better player and athlete than Tomlinson, Tuucker or Linderbaum, can play all three positions of offensive line 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 But he's a guard who can fill in at center, so he's probably a better G than C. Just like our current center. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 You should have called this thread Lee Trevino, and put a picture of him holding a trophy under that chart. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Cam Jurgens in Round 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Aunt happening JD already has his guy starting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 He graded out really well with the RAS, I was a bit surprised. Good player. His tape is fun to watch. Sign me up, especially if the Jets think he can play C. He's going early, so Jets would need to us a second round pick i'd guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I loved him before we paid the Tomlinson contract. I just don't see him as a full time center and the investment we made at G with AVT and Tomlinson is extensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeJet22 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I don't see JD going OL until the mid-rounds. First 4 picks will be Defense and WR. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 We arent drafting OL high in this draft. Maybe in the 4th round I could see it but not with our first or seconds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I hope the Jets draft a C this year, but probably not until the 4th round, maybe? OT is a much bigger need....at this time the Jets are incredibly thin there. Becton is a huge question mark. JD cannot count on him for anything, though he also shouldn't totally give up on him. Fant was good last year but ended the season missing games and will be a free agent after next year. Moses left. There's no good young swing tackle on the roster. I'm hoping that JD takes an OT as early as round 2. Maybe a decent vet RT will shake loose later, like Moses did? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmhertz Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 Watch the Senior Bowl best offensive lineman in game. With his movement skills and long arms could even play OT 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gastineau Lives Posted March 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Green Ghost said: You should have called this thread Lee Trevino, and put a picture of him holding a trophy under that chart. This makes no sense. Zion Johnson means "Jewish penis" in German. Nice try, buddy. Cancel that trip to Dusseldorf. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I’m an athleticism guy, but zion isn’t a better center than Linderbaum. Both are good prospects, but the whole mental aspect of center is different than other line positions as well for starters. Plus zion is a natural guard able to flex to other positions. Linderbaum is fundamentally sound and is able to be mobile in the run game to play in a zone scheme. He may never be a dominating strength guy. He’s not a pure mauler. But I expect being in an NFL program should help make him be fine there long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Maybe as a longer term idea when there was a spot for him at guard. But having a guy making a college guard to NFL center transition as a rookie up front with Wilson still developing is too risky IMO. Like Johnson as a prospect a lot, but think it’d be more prudent to have the continuity with McGovern this year and draft a day three guy (there are several athletic ones) to develop behind him and hopefully show enough to take over after his contract expires. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 54 minutes ago, hmhertz said: Watch the Senior Bowl best offensive lineman in game. With his movement skills and long arms could even play OT Zion Johnson looked terrible when they moved him to center in mobile. He's a David decastro style right guard. And the Jets just signed one of those 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 He did work out at center at the Senior Bowl, but he is a guard, not really a center. I'm guessing our staff wanted to see how he did at center. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, bitonti said: Zion Johnson looked terrible when they moved him to center in mobile. He's a David decastro style right guard. And the Jets just signed one of those Sup Bit! Hope your well brother. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I don’t think he will last until the jets 3rd round pick. I think his teammate Alec Lindstrom in the 3rd or 4th round is more realistic and a good fit for the offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, derp said: Maybe as a longer term idea when there was a spot for him at guard. But having a guy making a college guard to NFL center transition as a rookie up front with Wilson still developing is too risky IMO. Like Johnson as a prospect a lot, but think it’d be more prudent to have the continuity with McGovern this year and draft a day three guy (there are several athletic ones) to develop behind him and hopefully show enough to take over after his contract expires. You have any centers you like? I haven’t looked that hard since the ND kid went back to school and was generally unimpressed by the guys that took center reps at the senior bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: You have any centers you like? I haven’t looked that hard since the ND kid went back to school and was generally unimpressed by the guys that took center reps at the senior bowl. I think running the zone scheme you want an athletic guy to develop - in this class Cole Strange, Zach Tom, Dawson Deaton, Luke Wattenberg, Cam Jurgens, and to a lesser extent Alec Lindstrom tested well. Tom hit the short shuttle threshold - which I'd guess Douglas looks at since the Eagles drafted Andre Dillard high - and has multi position versatility. I think he's the guy to keep an eye on. The rest had good shuttles, which I think are important for centers, except for Jurgens who didn't do it. And Lindstrom's was just okay. Curious to see what Jurgens does at his Pro Day. I think they look at this class and think they can get someone worth developing in the fifth round (or later if they pick up an even later selection) and not feel like they have to reach on one particular guy. And Douglas tends to like being confident he can get something. The one thing that makes me hesitate in thinking they'll do it is the deal they gave Feeney, but I still think they need more iOL depth. All that said I'd be lying if I told you I've dug into these guys, it's much more a numbers based look. Genuinely don't have the time these days and when I used to do it I'd just end up disappointed with the drafts to a greater degree. But I do think if you're talking about a day three zone scheme developmental center, athleticism is going to be important. And Douglas likes position versatility too. Part of why I think Tom is on the table. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Keep in mind the Jets were the staff that asked him to play center so it is not really an outrageous thought that we picked him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Uhh, there's 5 OL positions. Switching from L to R or the other way around is like a baseball pitcher switching hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Machine Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Untouchable said: Cam Jurgens in Round 4 I hope this team soon starts finding consistent depth/starter OL value in later rounds. Then we will not be asking to draft a natural guard, in the top 40 picks, to play out of position. Those will be the days. By the way, I like Zion… I just like hitting on an actual center in round 4, better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 7 hours ago, TheClashFan said: I hope the Jets draft a C this year, but probably not until the 4th round, maybe? OT is a much bigger need....at this time the Jets are incredibly thin there. Becton is a huge question mark. JD cannot count on him for anything, though he also shouldn't totally give up on him. Fant was good last year but ended the season missing games and will be a free agent after next year. Moses left. There's no good young swing tackle on the roster. I'm hoping that JD takes an OT as early as round 2. Maybe a decent vet RT will shake loose later, like Moses did? I'd take Bernhard Raimann in the 3rd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, GreenReaper said: I'd take Bernhard Raimann in the 3rd. Real good chance that he will be long gone...most draft sites have him rated between 5-8 of all OT. Some even say he might go in the first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 11 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said: This makes no sense. Zion Johnson means "Jewish penis" in German. Nice try, buddy. Cancel that trip to Dusseldorf. Please tell me this is true! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 If he is there in the 2nd, I would take him with the belief he will be the center this year. Middleton coached him up at the senior bowl. Had a good look at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 the thing is the jets have a chance to build for the future. whether or not this guys fits their immediate plans they could pick him and then they're prepared for when mcgovern's contract runs out or if tomlinson gets injured or event avt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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