SouthernJet Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Any rumors we may be after someone? If so anyone ‘out there’ or ‘rumored to be on trade block’ you would like to see Douglas make a play for? Thanks! Have a safe summer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 They signed Moses last June so maybe there will be some post June 1 cuts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 A high chance I would say. If they were willing to drop 25mil on Deebo, they have money to go after anybody they want 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Between June cuts, and players that become available you'll see them make a move or two. Most likely at LB seeing as that is their weakest link probably right now on paper. Deion Jones in ATL has been mentioned a few times and he fits the system. The DT from the Bengals will probably sign as depth if he doesn't find a better offer. The offense seems locked down for the most part. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Depends on who they are willing to cut and who is available 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I think they will try to showcase Mims in the pre-season and then trade him. Glad to hear he is working hard in the off-season. I’m still not buying the hype. Mims couldn’t sniff the field last season when the Jets barely had a single WR healthy enough to play... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 There is a chance that the safeties and DL currently on the roster could work. I don’t think there is a realistic chance that the LBs work. If we want to win more than 5 games, I would sign a LB. Deion Jones would be perfect but expensive. We are gambling with Wilson’s health and development of the offense with the current Ts. We should sign a veteran and put Mitchell on IR after he gets injured trying to block Carl Lawson in practice. Otherwise we should roll with the team we have, gain valuable experience from our schedule and finish the build next year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 After June 1st there usually is another round of signings. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 9 hours ago, RoadFan said: I think they will try to showcase Mims in the pre-season and then trade him. Glad to hear he is working hard in the off-season. I’m still not buying the hype. Mims couldn’t sniff the field last season when the Jets barely had a single WR healthy enough to play... Pretty much 0 chance that they'd showcase Mims and then trade him. For one they still believe in him or hold out hope that hes talented and circumstances worked against him in the past. Secondly who would want him? If he shows enough to draw offers why wouldnt they hold onto him, he fills a need they dont have in a WR right now. Throw in hes inexpensive and I dont see a reason to trade him this year 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted May 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: Pretty much 0 chance that they'd showcase Mims and then trade him. For one they still believe in him or hold out hope that hes talented and circumstances worked against him in the past. Secondly who would want him? If he shows enough to draw offers why wouldnt they hold onto him, he fills a need they dont have in a WR right now. Throw in hes inexpensive and I dont see a reason to trade him this year Yeah, people seem to forget that they lost Crowder and Cole, and then only added Wilson. Jets will carry a minimum of five WRs, and Mims’ only possible competition for that fifth spot is probably Jeff Smith or maybe Tarik Black, unless one of these kids has an amazing camp. Not exactly an uphill battle. If he can play to some sort of showcasing level this summer, he’s not going anywhere. If there’s a team in the NFL that needs depth everywhere, it’s the Jets. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, slats said: Yeah, people seem to forget that they lost Crowder and Cole, and then only added Wilson. Jets will carry a minimum of five WRs, and Mims’ only possible competition for that fifth spot is probably Jeff Smith or maybe Tarik Black, unless one of these kids has an amazing camp. Not exactly an uphill battle. If he can play to some sort of showcasing level this summer, he’s not going anywhere. If there’s a team in the NFL that needs depth everywhere, it’s the Jets. This. Especially since we're among the league leaders year in and year out for cap% sitting on IR. Depth is needed everywhere. We're just not used to the luxury of having good players not being starters because we're usually forced into making people starters because we don't have good players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 They will 100% sign players and make trades before the season. I don't know that they will be at the level that anybody here will consider them important. 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: Pretty much 0 chance that they'd showcase Mims and then trade him. For one they still believe in him or hold out hope that hes talented and circumstances worked against him in the past. Secondly who would want him? If he shows enough to draw offers why wouldnt they hold onto him, he fills a need they dont have in a WR right now. Throw in hes inexpensive and I dont see a reason to trade him this year 0 chance? Hold out hope? There is a chance that he will be on the bubble. Particularly if they add somebody. He doesn't play specials and he doesn't seem to be a great fit and/or buy into what they are doing. In his favor is that he played more as the season wore on, but if they are contemplating cutting him, they will try to move him for a pick. Everybody busts on Blake Cashman, but they did less at LB than WR and they moved him. Mims has way more ceiling, but they don't appear married to the guy. 1 hour ago, JetsFanatic said: After June 1st there usually is another round of signings. I thought this wasn't a thing anymore? Teams can designate cuts as post June 1st now, so you don't have the wait like before. The player's association negotiated that a long time ago because good players were losing out on money because they couldn't join teams until after June 1st when teams wanted their depth charts set. Not teams can maneuver the money earlier. I guess some teams still hold out hope and dick around with some guys, like Morgan Moses, but it's not what it once was. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post More Cowbell Posted May 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Pretty much 0 chance that they'd showcase Mims and then trade him. For one they still believe in him or hold out hope that hes talented and circumstances worked against him in the past. Secondly who would want him? If he shows enough to draw offers why wouldnt they hold onto him, he fills a need they dont have in a WR right now. Throw in hes inexpensive and I dont see a reason to trade him this year I can't think of a single player that had been treated by the Jets the way Mims was given the circumstances surrounding the position. The Jets WR core was decimated and they still wouldn't play him and when they did, they barely called his number. When you have a 6'3" player who runs a sub 4.4 40 and you would rather put the ball in Barrios's hands, that says a lot about what the team thinks of you so I'm not really sure where you are getting the team believes in him, because last season, they didn't believe in him at all. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I can't think of a single player that had been treated by the Jets the way Mims was given the circumstances surrounding the position. The Jets WR core was decimated and they still wouldn't play him and when they did, they barely called his number. When you have a 6'3" player who runs a sub 4.4 40 and you would rather put the ball in Barrios's hands, that says a lot about what the team thinks of you so I'm not really sure where you are getting the team believes in him, because last season, they didn't believe in him at all. Could it have a “tough love” message? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, OilfieldJet said: Could it have a “tough love” message? Is Saleh taking ques from Mommy Dearest? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I can't think of a single player that had been treated by the Jets the way Mims was given the circumstances surrounding the position. The Jets WR core was decimated and they still wouldn't play him and when they did, they barely called his number. When you have a 6'3" player who runs a sub 4.4 40 and you would rather put the ball in Barrios's hands, that says a lot about what the team thinks of you so I'm not really sure where you are getting the team believes in him, because last season, they didn't believe in him at all. He played more than 20 snaps a game down the stretch. I don't think people grasp just how bad Mims was when he was on the field. He had a 35% catch rate. Some of that, and Berrios getting more shots, probably comes from him not knowing the positions or getting run out of slot. There are plenty of guys that are tall and fast and don't pan out, but Mims actually looked like something that would develop in 2020. I'm not holding my breath that he amounts to anything now. Maybe if he is just slow with the playbook and the injuries were his main setback in 2021? I don't know, but I guess that is the hope. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: They will 100% sign players and make trades before the season. I don't know that they will be at the level that anybody here will consider them important. 0 chance? Hold out hope? There is a chance that he will be on the bubble. Particularly if they add somebody. He doesn't play specials and he doesn't seem to be a great fit and/or buy into what they are doing. In his favor is that he played more as the season wore on, but if they are contemplating cutting him, they will try to move him for a pick. Everybody busts on Blake Cashman, but they did less at LB than WR and they moved him. Mims has way more ceiling, but they don't appear married to the guy. Just don’t see him being cut. They’ve gone out of their way to explain his health issues as a reason he struggled along with repeatedly talking about his talents and that they still believe in him. I can’t see the advantage to cutting out trading him unless a better player is brought in 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Jets are currently sitting with $13M in available cap space, 12th most according to Overthecap.com. They are also in good shape for next year. I see the following 1. Swing OT like Daryl Williams on a 1 year deal, formerly of the Bills who’s played both tackle and guard well but is better at tackle. 79.4 grade as Bills RT 2 years ago before switching to guard (67.5 grade) 2. LB who can backup Mosley and stop the run. Can you imagine Mosley gets hurt. Are our converted safeties playing Mike? 1-2 year deal. (I’m still but less concerned about the covering the flat or TEs this year with last year’s rookies coming back from injury) 3. DT who can help stop the run up the middle. Absolutely terrible here last year and only lost talent instead of gaining. Don’t like the Bengals guy; prefer someone like Hicks, an underrated player released from the Bears. 1-2 year deql 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Jets are currently sitting with $13M in available cap space, 12th most according to Overthecap.com. They are also in good shape for next year. I see the following 1. Swing OT like Daryl Williams on a 1 year deal, formerly of the Bills who’s played both tackle and guard well but is better at tackle. 79.4 grade as Bills RT 2 years ago before switching to guard (67.5 grade) 2. LB who can backup Mosley and stop the run. Can you imagine Mosley gets hurt. Are our converted safeties playing Mike? 1-2 year deal. (I’m less concerned about the flat this year with last year’s rookies coming back from injury) 3. DT who can help stop the run up the middle. Absolutely terrible here last year and only lost talent instead of gaining. Don’t like the Bengals guy; prefer someone like Hicks, an underrated player released from the Bears. 1-2 year deql It seems like they are really expecting Marshall to be a player, and be a big piece of the DT rotation. However, if a solid, proven vet is a June 1st casuality, or later in camp, could see JD trying to grab a guy. Agree with you, LB seems way more of a need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I'll be shocked if they didn't. With them bringing in Ogunjobi & Alexander for visits I would expect one or both to be signed before camp. Then with the quality depth we have at DLine & CB I would expect Douglas to pull a trade for a draft pick or two at the end of camp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 49 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Just don’t see him being cut. They’ve gone out of their way to explain his health issues as a reason he struggled along with repeatedly talking about his talents and that they still believe in him. I can’t see the advantage to cutting out trading him unless a better player is brought in He was terrible in this system last season. If he doesn't improve greatly, the advantage to getting rid of him is that guys like Smith and Berrios might actually be better players in the system. You can't even argue that he got better as the season went on. He had 40 of his yards on his one target week 1. Without that catch, he caught 8 of 22 for 93 yards. He is two years in without a TD. If things don't change quickly for him, it might make sense to send him somewhere that can use him, expecially since he has yet to play a special team snap. I'm not saying they are going to trade or cut him, or that they should. I am saying there are very good reasons to think they might. Hearing that he is big and fast is nice, but so is Irvin Charles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 hours ago, slats said: Yeah, people seem to forget that they lost Crowder and Cole, and then only added Wilson. Jets will carry a minimum of five WRs, and Mims’ only possible competition for that fifth spot is probably Jeff Smith or maybe Tarik Black, unless one of these kids has an amazing camp. Not exactly an uphill battle. If he can play to some sort of showcasing level this summer, he’s not going anywhere. If there’s a team in the NFL that needs depth everywhere, it’s the Jets. There's always that guy that people try to get off the team at all costs and against all logic. This year, it seems that it's Mims. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradSmith16fan Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Trey Flowers as a rotational DE might be a solid pick up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 18 hours ago, Larz said: They signed Moses last June so maybe there will be some post June 1 cuts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: Like Cartman would say on South Park...."you bastard." ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: I can't think of a single player that had been treated by the Jets the way Mims was given the circumstances surrounding the position. The Jets WR core was decimated and they still wouldn't play him and when they did, they barely called his number. When you have a 6'3" player who runs a sub 4.4 40 and you would rather put the ball in Barrios's hands, that says a lot about what the team thinks of you so I'm not really sure where you are getting the team believes in him, because last season, they didn't believe in him at all. The Jets treated him like sh*t because he played like sh*t. He deserved what he got. He reaped what he sowed. It's up to Mims to change the narrative. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, Alka said: The Jets treated him like sh*t because he played like sh*t. He deserved what he got. He reaped what he sowed. It's up to Mims to change the narrative. I'm not criticizing the Jets for how he was treated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 hour ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Jets are currently sitting with $13M in available cap space, 12th most according to Overthecap.com. They are also in good shape for next year. I see the following 1. Swing OT like Daryl Williams on a 1 year deal, formerly of the Bills who’s played both tackle and guard well but is better at tackle. 79.4 grade as Bills RT 2 years ago before switching to guard (67.5 grade) 2. LB who can backup Mosley and stop the run. Can you imagine Mosley gets hurt. Are our converted safeties playing Mike? 1-2 year deal. (I’m less concerned about the flat this year with last year’s rookies coming back from injury) 3. DT who can help stop the run up the middle. Absolutely terrible here last year and only lost talent instead of gaining. Don’t like the Bengals guy; prefer someone like Hicks, an underrated player released from the Bears. 1-2 year deql they be hurtin' at LB baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 hours ago, KRL said: I'll be shocked if they didn't. With them bringing in Ogunjobi & Alexander for visits I would expect one or both to be signed before camp. Then with the quality depth we have at DLine & CB I would expect Douglas to pull a trade for a draft pick or two at the end of camp Who is going to stop the run? Sherwood and Nas coming back might help cover the TEs and RBs but are they big enough to stop the run? Ogunjobi? His run grades are terrible. Seems to sell out for sacks and should only be considered a pass rushing upgrade over Rankins, who was equally inept at both last year. Alexander fits the Jets well but only from an oft injured perspective. I don’t get the interest here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: I'm not criticizing the Jets for how he was treated oh, okay. I really do hope he turns it around. Being a workout warrior is great, but you gotta produce on the field. I know there are great reports about him, but I really hopes he comes through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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win4ever Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 The Baker Mayfield situation was handled so weirdly. He easily outplayed Sam Darnold, and his last healthy season was a top 15-ish QB, yet no one wants him. Darnold netting a 2nd and 4th, while Baker basically has to be cut is a bigger feather in Douglas' cap than the Adams trade at this point. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, win4ever said: The Baker Mayfield situation was handled so weirdly. He easily outplayed Sam Darnold, and his last healthy season was a top 15-ish QB, yet no one wants him. Darnold netting a 2nd and 4th, while Baker basically has to be cut is a bigger feather in Douglas' cap than the Adams trade at this point. Mayfield seems to be in that gray zone where any upside of his talent isn’t right now worth more than the difficulty of his personality. That $18M price tag doesn’t help. Browns should’ve done him a solid already and let him go. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 5 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Jets are currently sitting with $13M in available cap space, 12th most according to Overthecap.com. They are also in good shape for next year. I'm not sure that number includes #17 Wilson The Jets might be up against the cap. They do have alot of long term flexibility but that means someone needs to be extended or haircut for cap room now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, slats said: Mayfield seems to be in that gray zone where any upside of his talent isn’t right now worth more than the difficulty of his personality. That $18M price tag doesn’t help. Browns should’ve done him a solid already and let him go. I thought he had trade value, but they got caught in the Watson cycle. If they traded Mayfield, without getting Watson, in a year where the QB draft was abysmal, they look dumb for tanking a possible contender. If they kept Mayfield, I think it would have been fine to bank on him possibly coming back from injury and then going from there. But they went all in on Watson, who most likely will be suspended, and tanked Mayfield's value in the process, and tanking this season anyway, without the picks for next year. Watson already screwed them over with the last minute switch (every indication was Atlanta). I think their big fear was him going to the Steelers and instantly becoming a solid starter, so they want to have some control. I still think a Mayfield/Darnold trade might end up happening, because at this point, there's no benefit of cutting him. Both on 5th year options, Darnold won't make any issues, and Mayfield offers more upside for the Panthers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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