SickJetFan Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Lith said: regardless of doing for optics I would luv to see Max win this even if he has to take some lumps. You cant have round 1 picks everywhere. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killa7 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lith said: long term is fine, but I'm worried about Wilson getting a season-ending injury on Friday night because Chuma Friggin Edoga is out there...or even Max. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post 65 Toss Power Trap Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 52 minutes ago, Lith said: Get the dude nfl-caliber protection and he'll keep coming along this year. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, PorP said: Yup... too true. I wanna see ZW play Friday but I think I'd rather not if Fant isn't running with the 1's in Philly. No good reason to risk ZW with a rush - struggling line in the preseason I disagree. Zach needs the reps. If they don't have any OTs they are confident enough in to put on the field with Zach, that's an indictment on JD and something they need to rectify NOW. They can't hide Zach in the regular season. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: He actually looked pretty good in the preseason games. Quick and decisive with the ball. Pretty much the exact opposite of what he looked like in the first half of regular season, lol. And it was why I always thought his accuracy issues were mental and could be fixed. He's not a naturally inaccurate QB. Honestly, if those accuracy issues are fixed I think we have our QB. The game was clearly too fast for him last year and offense too complicated. It seems to be slowing down and continue to improve week in and week out. He's not going to be a superstar this year - just still pretty far behind and will have to take some lumps when the bullets are flying, but we'll know we have our guy by the end of this season. Progression is what we want to see. If and only if he can fix the accuracy issues - if when things start to get rough and he throws an INT or two does he fall back into the shell and start short arming the ball and putting it in the dirt. That is really what we won't know until things go bad - and they will, at some point, go bad. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Legend Killa7 Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: yeah but...but...what was his YPA huh? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bruce Harper Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Definitely. It's smart to be cautious. I'm too lazy to do it, but I'd be curious to go back and read TC reports from Darnold and year 1 Zach. How often were they going "13 for 16" or whatever. How many of their passes were they completing? I would think that stringing together a bunch of practices of better than 65% completion percentage is a good sign, but maybe most QBs do this? I legitimately don't know. It's just good to hear that Wilson is completing passes and moving the chains. He struggled a lot with accuracy last year and we would all be panicking if we were reading "5 for 16" or whatever. I seem to recall that when Sanchez and Tebow were here it seemed to be less than 50% pretty much every day. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: I disagree. Zach needs the reps. If they don't have any OTs they are confident enough in to put on the field with Zach, that's an indictment on JD and something they need to rectify NOW. They can't hide Zach in the regular season. Sure, but don't compound one mistake with another. Seriously, what is one drive going to do for him? If there's a real concern with the OL not being able to protect him then there's no reason to play one series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post derp Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Lith said: Think Mitchell’s strength coming out was pass pro and he played the right side in college. Glad they’re prioritizing pass pro. Think it could adversely impact the run offense but protecting Wilson should be the priority. Mitchell winning that job would be big in roster construction. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoot-Face Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Lith said: "Max Mitchell is further along than expected." Translation: "We mistakenly hung our hats on a broken Becton, Chuma Edoga sucks, and if Max isn't ready, we are screwed." 5 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Lith said: aka - Saleh saw Edoga take live snaps and immediately accelerated the developmental process of Mitchell. I kid. Maybe. @T0mShane 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killa7 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Sure, but don't compound one mistake with another. Seriously, what is one drive going to do for him? If there's a real concern with the OL not being able to protect him then there's no reason to play one series. and more imporatantly: I believe the eagles are one of those teams that never play their starters. I know we typically play them in the final week when no one does, but since the change to three week PS, it seems most teams don't. I actually turned on the jags-raiders PS game last week to see how Trevor looked. he didn't even suit up! my point is: IF you are going to risk putting Wilson out there, do NOT do it against backups trying to make a name for themselves. As much as I wanna see Zach play, I'd rather see him play 17 times this year than 1 series this Friday night. **EDIT**: just read online that Philly plan to play their starters one or two series as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: "Max Mitchell is further along than expected." Translation: "We mistakenly hung our hats on a broken Becton, Chuma Edoga sucks, and if Max isn't ready, we are screwed." Just now, Barry McCockinner said: aka - Saleh saw Edoga take live snaps and immediately accelerated the developmental process of Mitchell. I kid. Maybe. @T0mShane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Who could have predicted!? Lots of us did. Softball prediction. Love me some Sauce but Ickey was right there at #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: "Max Mitchell is further along than expected." Translation: "We mistakenly hung our hats on a broken Becton, Chuma Edoga sucks, and if Max isn't ready, we are screwed." is what it is....hope he is good and starts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: "Max Mitchell is further along than expected." Translation: "We mistakenly hung our hats on a broken Becton, Chuma Edoga sucks, and if Max isn't ready, we are screwed." This. Chuma is not an nfl lineman. Mitchel is not ready to start. We need help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dunnie Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Lith said: White has to work on his catchable balls. ? 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 minute ago, 65 Toss Power Trap said: Lots of us did. Softball prediction. Love me some Sauce but Ickey was right there at #4. Ickey isn't exactly lighting it up in camp so far - there is talk that he might be a longterm guard (which there also was before the draft) Happy with Sauce, from everything we have heard. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: "Max Mitchell is further along than expected." Translation: "We mistakenly hung our hats on a broken Becton, Chuma Edoga sucks, and if Max isn't ready, we are screwed." Not sure I’d agree with that. Max was the “last resort” but, when called upon, has seemed to impress and improve every day, particularly in pass protection. If he pans out, that’s humongous. 15 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Sure, but don't compound one mistake with another. Seriously, what is one drive going to do for him? If there's a real concern with the OL not being able to protect him then there's no reason to play one series. Eh, if this was his rookie year, I'd maybe agree, but Zach should be able to do well enough to get rid of the ball and protect himself. They can even gameplan around it to protect him by going run heavy and designed rollouts. With as little live action as they get in preseason, every snap counts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 Just now, Mogglez said: Not sure I’d agree with that. Max was the “last resort” but, when called upon, has seemed to impress and improve every day, particularly in pass protection. If he pans out, that’s humongous. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigRy56 Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Zach has had a rock solid camp. Very little to no bad days 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irktusk1957 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Fair enough. Just don't think his performance in practice erases how he looked last season. One would hope you have improved and become wiser than last year. Let’s give Zach the same chance… 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorP Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: I disagree. Zach needs the reps. If they don't have any OTs they are confident enough in to put on the field with Zach, that's an indictment on JD and something they need to rectify NOW. They can't hide Zach in the regular season. Sure on JD and rectifying now. Idk if 2 days is enough time.... Also sure on reps.... I think all of us agree... I just don't want to lose ZW for the season in preseason because the oline is holier than my great aunt every sunday. And also note... I don't need both sides fixed, just 1, either 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Just now, slimjasi said: Ickey isn't exactly lighting it up in camp so far - there is talk that he might be a longterm guard (which there also was before the draft) Happy with Sauce, from everything we have heard. I wasn't aware of Ickey's camp. Thank for the insight. Have you heard how Neal or Cross are looking? Can't say enough good things about sauce. So excited for his career. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Just now, 65 Toss Power Trap said: I wasn't aware of Ickey's camp. Thank for the insight. Have you heard how Neal or Cross are looking? Can't say enough good things about sauce. So excited for his career. No idea about Neal or Cross. Yes - Sauce gives you those star vibes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, Maxman said: We survived Chad Pennington's shoulder. It would be tough but don't sell us short lol. I mean it was so bad back then that Chad's sister created an account so she could yell at people via private messaging. Is that a true story? If so, that is awesome. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, SickJetFan said: is what it is....hope he is good and starts Same. Wouldn't that be nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 57 minutes ago, oatmeal said: Bro if Zach was having a Trey Lance camp this place would legitimately be on fire and even @Maxman would not be able to save it Trey Lance is killing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Just now, The Crusher said: Trey Lance is killing it? No he’s having a Josh Allen rookie year type camp, very up and down but more down than anything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Not sure I’d agree with that. Max was the “last resort” but, when called upon, has seemed to impress and improve every day, particularly in pass protection. If he pans out, that’s humongous. I, obviously, haven't seen him in action, and am just assuming. It'd be great if he truly is ready, but most of what I've read is that Max is a project and will need at least a year in an NFL gym. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, Lith said: You’d also have to believe that Brown’s (and Fant’s) reps know that the Jets are as desperate as it gets, and Douglas doesn’t want to negotiate from his position of extreme weakness. This is Saleh simply putting a happy face on the scenario where they lose out on Brown 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Ickey isn't exactly lighting it up in camp so far - there is talk that he might be a longterm guard (which there also was before the draft) Happy with Sauce, from everything we have heard. This needs to be pinned somewhere on the board. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: I, obviously, haven't seen him in action, and am just assuming. It'd be great if he truly is ready, but most of what I've read is that Max is a project and will need at least a year in an NFL gym. I dont think you need a year in gym....thats old school thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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