Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted November 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2022 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Joe Beningo said he stinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted November 3, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mario said: Joe Beningo said he stinks so did half the people on this forum. 3 1 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mario said: Joe Beningo said he stinks in fairness the beginning of the season i found him to be non-existent. the last 4/5 games he's been an absolute animal, finally playing up to his draft status. i'll admit he's been impressive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 $ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted November 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2022 His problems have been more around health & consistency. Lots of fans here confused this with being a JAG. 2 years ago he finished very strong after his rookie year. Last year he started strong before injuring his shoulder and losing key teammates like Bryce Huff who can force a QB to step into the pocket. Now in his 4th year, he’s putting it all together. Some guys just need a little more time but the flashing has been there for those who cared to look. He’s a cornerstone piece of elite players we now have (Q, Sauce, AVT, Hall, possibly Reed). Congrats to him! Next year with a little patience from the fans and much better QB play we might add Garrett Wilson to the list. Wouldn’t be shocked to see Bryce Huff continue to figure things out and become elite as a situational pass rusher. When was the last time we had 1 elite player, let alone up to 7 in the making. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oatmeal Posted November 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2022 The Q slander needs to die like forever 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Kenneth Walker won Offense Rookie of the Month, wonder how Breece stacked up missing 1.5 games. Edit: Nvm, would have been close if Breece was healthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, oatmeal said: The Q slander needs to die like forever There are posters here already seeing his performance this year as purely contract related. Very sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 4 years $100m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted November 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2022 Straight up, Q.Will is the DPOY right now. He's out playing Aaron Donald. Yeah, I said it, DPOY. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted November 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, JiFapono said: Straight up, Q.Will is the DPOY right now. He's out playing Aaron Donald. Yeah, I said it, DPOY. Donald only has 4 sacks this season? Pft what a loser. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I just wanted to use this gif lol 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, jamesr said: There are posters here already seeing his performance this year as purely contract related. Very sad. First: Congrats to QW. With that done, why is that sad? He's had three mostly disappointing seasons, and now in year 4 he's having a very strong season. There is a reason few around the league know his name like they do guys like Aaron Donald and his ilk before this year. And we've seen things like that before, guys cruise, then go balls out to get a new big $$ deal, then cruise some more. Especially on the D-Line. A few names of our own come to mind. Seems pragmatic to consider that a guy balling out only in a potential contract year after several less than stellar years might carry with him some risk of drop back post-new-deal. Seriously, some of you act like you're defending your girlfriends or mothers honor when you talk about players.... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: It is really a shame. This team has talent. Our window of opportunity is opening and we still don't know where we are with our QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Of course he is a bust..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: It is really a shame. This team has talent. Our window of opportunity is opening and we still don't know where we are with our QB. every thread turns into a zach thread unfortunately 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 IMO- JD will have him play on his 5th year option to make certain the consistency remains. If he finishes strong this year JD might throw out a "Hometown Discount" offer to test the waters. I wonder who his agent is? Hopefully not EM's agent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewyandtheJets Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: It is really a shame. This team has talent. Our window of opportunity is opening and we still don't know where we are with our QB. Excellent. For one tenuous moment it seemed we might have a list that doesn’t reference our QB. Thanks for making the world right again! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 My favorite Jet. Nobody has more "want to". Just a matter of growing into his talent He will be in the Ring of Honor one day! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I've said this before....Q's up tick has more to do with Joe Douglas than any contract year nonsense. Q is finally playing on a complete defense. Sauce and DJ Reed on the back end shutting down those easy completions, forcing QBs to hold the rock a tad longer than they want....then WHAM! Q gets home. Lawson, Huff, Clemons, Jermain on the outside forcing QBs to step up to avoid the outside pass rush....then WHAM! Q gets home up the middle. People have noted how Aaron Donald has 'fallen off' this season....losing his outside pass rusher (Von Miller) leaves Donald as the only force on the line. A situation QW has dealt with since getting drafted, until this year. Oh, and fans who think Q will sign a $20-something/year are crazy. $30m/yr could just be the starting point in negotiations..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Well deserved - he's on a DPOY pace. He has a lot of money coming his way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 seriously though, it is nice to actually want to pay one of our young players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 To me this is pretty simple. To extend/sign QW, that will require an NFL team to guarantee him a significant amount of money. But the contract needs to be structured so that QW is incentivized to perform. The multi-year guaranty should look like 5th year option annually, for let's say 3-4 years. QW can make much more if he makes the Pro Bowl, All Pro, Playoff wins, for example. But I don't think someone is being negative or cynical to think that guaranteeing someone that big, who has to beat his brains in 50+ times per week, may hold back some effort and brain damage after they are paid $100mm, particularly when his performance this season is so much better than the prior ones. Its just human nature. I think analytics on second contracts for DTs is compellingly negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, batman10023 said: every thread turns into a zach thread unfortunately Because it is the story of this team right now. Nobody knows if he will be the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, ChewyandtheJets said: Excellent. For one tenuous moment it seemed we might have a list that doesn’t reference our QB. Thanks for making the world right again! This is something many people I know, people that don't post here have talked about. We all see the talent on this team. We could be playing for a SB spot if the QB position was settled. But hey, don't worry, my family full of Giant fans feel the same way about Danny Dimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Sign this short for beast money! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Warfish said: First: Congrats to QW. With that done, why is that sad? He's had three mostly disappointing seasons, and now in year 4 he's having a very strong season. There is a reason few around the league know his name like they do guys like Aaron Donald and his ilk before this year. And we've seen things like that before, guys cruise, then go balls out to get a new big $$ deal, then cruise some more. Especially on the D-Line. A few names of our own come to mind. Seems pragmatic to consider that a guy balling out only in a potential contract year after several less than stellar years might carry with him some risk of drop back post-new-deal. Seriously, some of you act like you're defending your girlfriends or mothers honor when you talk about players.... Personally, the reason I feel it is sad is that anyone who does genuinely improve their play immediately gets labelled as a contract chaser without any evidence to support it. Assuming the worst about someone rather than assuming the best. Guilty till proven innocent. It was the same with JFM last year ... the fact he got an extended contract just after a few stand out games had people then complaining when subsequent games weren't of that same stand out nature. Because he'd got paid and "chose to get lazy". Not defending anyone's honour ... just looking to see the silver lining rather than the cloud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, batman10023 said: every thread turns into a zach thread unfortunately well it's true. Yes, it be can tedious to read, but really, what do you expect. This roster has been bereft of talent for a decade. Now it's blossoming, and we're held back by a stunted 2nd year QB and fans are frustrated as a result. Its the one position that is painfully hard to fix, and the future is murky at best. It is what it is, batman. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origen Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I'm surprised no one is mentioning the fact that after his big brother joined the team and was successful on his own merits, QW has elevated his own play. I mean, having Quincy there has been a huge thing I think for him and helped push him to this level. I think their natural competition between brothers can only help the Jets as they both work harder to succeed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 42 minutes ago, jamesr said: Personally, the reason I feel it is sad is that anyone who does genuinely improve their play immediately gets labelled as a contract chaser without any evidence to support it. Well, that's likely because of how common it is, the reality of human nature, and a healthy does of cynicism about play quality variance that just-so-happens to line up with a contract year. 42 minutes ago, jamesr said: Assuming the worst about someone rather than assuming the best. Guilty till proven innocent. A bit melodramatic. Fan perception is irrelevant, so I wouldn't liken it to an unfair criminal case. 42 minutes ago, jamesr said: It was the same with JFM last year ... the fact he got an extended contract just after a few stand out games had people then complaining when subsequent games weren't of that same stand out nature. Because he'd got paid and "chose to get lazy". Hardly unreasonable that when a plyer gets paid for his best, it's with the intention that we see alot more of that best later. If we pay big $$ to QW, we want QW of this year. Not his first three years. 42 minutes ago, jamesr said: Not defending anyone's honour ... just looking to see the silver lining rather than the cloud. There is a term for this: Pollyanna. Nothing wrong with being a Pollyanna, it's just not a more correct accurate predictor than healthy cynicism (Eeyore). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy and the Jets Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, Paradis said: well it's true. Yes, it be can tedious to read, but really, what do you expect. This roster has been bereft of talent for a decade. Now it's blossoming, and we're held back by a stunted 2nd year QB and fans are frustrated as a result. Its the one position that is painfully hard to fix, and the future is murky at best. It is what it is, batman. Just tiresome is all. We ALL understand Zach Wilson has struggled. There are 15 threads on page 1 to discuss his struggles and all are valid. But if someone wants to go and discuss Quinnen Williams it shouldn't have to turn into "what a shame he is so good but our QB stinks." That's all we are saying. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: so did half the people on this forum. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chewy and the Jets said: Just tiresome is all. We ALL understand Zach Wilson has struggled. There are 15 threads on page 1 to discuss his struggles and all are valid. But if someone wants to go and discuss Quinnen Williams it shouldn't have to turn into "what a shame he is so good but our QB stinks." That's all we are saying. i think everyone needs to be at peace with the fact that that will permeate every topic. It's unavoidable given the significance it plays in anything future state. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I’ve been wrong about 2 things on this forum: 1. Josh Allen 2. Quinnen Williams No need to look back at my post history or anything to assess the veracity of this claim. @faba can vouch. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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