Reported List of Jets OC Candidates Surprisingly Thin on Experience or Success

[JetNation]

With the Jets search for a new offensive coordinator under way, some of the names that have emerged as possible candidates share one very alarming trait; lack of experience on the job.

According to NFL insider Ian Rapoport, among those being considered by the Jets are Patriots tight ends coach Nick Caley, Eagles quarterbacks coach Brian Johnson and former Colts offensive coordinator Marcus Brady.

A few strong candidates for #Jets OC position, though it will be a wide-ranging search and other names will emerge:
— #Patriots TE coach Nick Caley
— #Eagles QB coach Brian Johnson
— Former #Colts OC Marcus Brady

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) January 13, 2023

Having just had to part ways with Mike LaFleur following an epic offensive collapse down the stretch, one would imagine the Jets would go hard after a play caller with a history of success at the position.

Instead, and this is assuming Rapoport’s list is correct, the Jets are flirting with the idea of another play caller who has never called a single play or who have had very little success in doing so.

Caley, a Patriots tight ends coach, has never coached quarterbacks or called plays on offense.   Another reported candidate, Brian Johnson of the Philadelphia Eagles quarterbacks coach has never called plays either.  Johnson has been a key in developing Jalen Hurts, which makes him appealing.

Then there’s former Colts offensive coordinator Marcus Brady.  While Brady has called plays before, the results have been a mixed bag.  In 2021, the Colts were 16th in the NFL in yards and 9th in points.  In 2022, he saw those rankings dip to 27th and 30th respectively.  While the Colts were an undeniable dumpster fire in 2022, Brady simply doesn’t have the track record one might expect the Jets to seek out for 2023 and beyond.

General Manger Joe Douglas and Head Coach Robert Saleh may not have a playoff mandate from ownership, but they’re undoubtedly on the hot seat.

With this being the case, there should be one primary goal in the next hire.  A coordinator with multiple years of experience and success in not only running an offense, but in developing quarterbacks.  As was discussed on this week’s episode of JetNation Live with Dylan Terman and Chris Schubert of The Draft Network.

In addition to the names provided by Rapoport, former Seahawks, Lions and Jaguars coordinator Darrell Bevell has been mentioned as a possibility.  While Bevell had a great deal of success with Russell Wilson and the Seahawks, he left plenty to be desired for his most recent performance with the Jags and Lions.

The last time Bevell had a top 10 offense was back in 2016 and none of his units have finished better than 24th since parting ways with Wilson and the Seahawks.

 

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[AFJF]

If they hire some dude who has never called plays before, I honestly won't even know what to think.  Hoping to get fired and still get a check?  

[dbatesman]

“Surprisingly”

[JustInFudge]

This cant be real...

[Biggs]

Bring back Shotenheimer.   Yes I dared to say it.   We hated him but we know he’s better than anyone else they hire.

 

[FactsOnly]

[oatmeal]

Saleh bush league a** is getting fired 2024, bank it 

[VJphillyfan]

24 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

“Surprisingly”

They seem to be lining up to fix Zach Wilson

[Nixhead]

Im gonna wait until they hire someone to worry about who they are going to hire. Saleh said the Jets will be casting a wide net  - so that obviously includes experienced and inexperienced play callers. Just don't take any advice from Peyton Manning please!

[AFJF]

11 minutes ago, Nixhead said:

Im gonna wait until they hire someone to worry about who they are going to hire. Saleh said the Jets will be casting a wide net  - so that obviously includes experienced and inexperienced play callers. Just don't take any advice from Peyton Manning please!

But why?  Why even consider somebody who has never done the job before?  How about casting a wide net of experienced play callers?  They bring in a rookie OC and that dude has to be a prodigy to save their jobs.

[AFJF]

51 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

“Surprisingly”

[Trotter]

So here is where the woody dilemma is.

lets say saleh picks one of these guys and jd signs off.

do you want woody stepping in and saying not going to happen?

you must hire an experienced oc?

I do, yet a lot of us want him staying out of football decisions

[LIJetsFan]

13 minutes ago, Trotter said:

So here is where the woody dilemma is.

lets say saleh picks one of these guys and jd signs off.

do you want woody stepping in and saying not going to happen?

you must hire an experienced oc?

I do, yet a lot of us want him staying out of football decisions

IMHO JD would never sign off on it so it wouldn't come up that Woody had to step in.  But it if somehow did come up I'd hope Woody would step in alright.  However, I still have full faith in JD.

[mrcoops]

The least surprising thing in the world would be if the Jets interview a load of crap for the OC position.

They need an experienced, proven OC...but will probably go young, cheap and non-threatening.

[Joejet]

1 hour ago, AFJF said:

But why?  Why even consider somebody who has never done the job before?  How about casting a wide net of experienced play callers?  They bring in a rookie OC and that dude has to be a prodigy to save their jobs.

Sometimes I think teams bring in young inexperienced people to pick their brains for ideas and get to know them a little better. They may not be looking to hire them now but these types of interviews gives them a chance to get to know them via a1v1 interview for possible openings down the road.

[T0mShane]

I didn’t want to give this its own thread, but has anyone read the Athletic piece on Daboll hiring his staff? He went out of his way to avoid hiring his buddies because he wanted a team of subject experts from different systems who could collaborate on the best ways to prepare a football team, and not just try to replicate an existing program. Very compelling stuff. Many of the guys interviewed were actually surprised they were being considered because they had no background with Daboll—basically cold-called. Very much worth the read:

https://theathletic.com/4079649/2023/01/13/giants-brian-daboll-coaching-staff/?source=emp_shared_article

[AFJF]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I didn’t want to give this its own thread, but has anyone read the Athletic piece on Daboll hiring his staff? He went out of his way to avoid hiring his buddies because he wanted a team of subject experts from different systems who could collaborate on the best ways to prepare a football team, and not just try to replicate an existing program. Very compelling stuff. Many of the guys they interviewed were actually surprised they were being considered because they had no background with Daboll—they were basically cold-called. Very much worth the read:

https://theathletic.com/4079649/2023/01/13/giants-brian-daboll-coaching-staff/?source=emp_shared_article

Great approach to building any team dealing with complex issues.

Would genuinely love to know how many coaches do it because all we ever hear about when guys are hired is how the guy doing the hiring knows him from a previous gig.

[Dcat]

2 hours ago, VJphillyfan said:

They seem to be lining up to fix Zach Wilson

that should go swimmingly well.  Should we start the 2024 new F.O. threads now?  Or maybe wait until November?

[Dcat]

7 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I didn’t want to give this its own thread, but has anyone read the Athletic piece on Daboll hiring his staff? He went out of his way to avoid hiring his buddies because he wanted a team of subject experts from different systems who could collaborate on the best ways to prepare a football team, and not just try to replicate an existing program. Very compelling stuff. Many of the guys they interviewed were actually surprised they were being considered because they had no background with Daboll—they were basically cold-called. Very much worth the read:

https://theathletic.com/4079649/2023/01/13/giants-brian-daboll-coaching-staff/?source=emp_shared_article

^ deserves its own thread.  Deserves hiring a process server and sending it via hand delivery to Woody and the rest of the munchkins in the Emerald City in Florham Park.

[football guy]

People inside the Jets building didn’t expect Saleh to move on from MLF without a clear idea on a replacement. Clearly that’s not the case. Coaches are keenly aware of how other teams handle their own hiring processes—it’s a copycat league—so you wonder if the Giants hiring process has impacted Saleh’s approach (not to mention how Joe Douglas came to hire the HC himself)… worth a read

 

[Jet Nut]

24 minutes ago, Joejet said:

Sometimes I think teams bring in young inexperienced people to pick their brains for ideas and get to know them a little better. They may not be looking to hire them now but these types of interviews gives them a chance to get to know them via a1v1 interview for possible openings down the road.

You mean like when we brought in Kingsbury for an interview? 

[Cbucco19]

1 hour ago, football guy said:

People inside the Jets building didn’t expect Saleh to move on from MLF without a clear idea on a replacement. Clearly that’s not the case. Coaches are keenly aware of how other teams handle their own hiring processes—it’s a copycat league—so you wonder if the Giants hiring process has impacted Saleh’s approach (not to mention how Joe Douglas came to hire the HC himself)… worth a read

 

Wonder if JD pushes for Brady !!! They almost hired as a HC and maybe he views him as a future Hc if for some reason saleh fails ??‍♂️

[varjet]

Personally, I don't think they hire another OC that has never called plays before.

But it could be a Darrel Bevel.

I think this FO and CS are on a one year Death Watch unless something radically changes.  

[FootballLove]

This is just weird. Successful, veteran OC's with a good track record of coaching up young QBs aren't looking for work. I would never have guessed.

[Bronx]

Burn in hell NY Jets!

 

[Dunnie]

I didn’t want to give this its own thread, but has anyone read the Athletic piece on Daboll hiring his staff? He went out of his way to avoid hiring his buddies because he wanted a team of subject experts from different systems who could collaborate on the best ways to prepare a football team, and not just try to replicate an existing program. Very compelling stuff. Many of the guys they interviewed were actually surprised they were being considered because they had no background with Daboll—they were basically cold-called. Very much worth the read:
https://theathletic.com/4079649/2023/01/13/giants-brian-daboll-coaching-staff/?source=emp_shared_article

Excellent perspective ... A true visionary. Meanwhile at One Jets Drive "storywall".

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[Dunnie]

People inside the Jets building didn’t expect Saleh to move on from MLF without a clear idea on a replacement. Clearly that’s not the case. Coaches are keenly aware of how other teams handle their own hiring processes—it’s a copycat league—so you wonder if the Giants hiring process has impacted Saleh’s approach (not to mention how Joe Douglas came to hire the HC himself)… worth a read
 

I said that the day it happened m. If they 'parted ways' without a contingency ... They were truly the definition of ' amateur hour'.

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[mrcoops]

52 minutes ago, Cbucco19 said:

Wonder if JD pushes for Brady !!! They almost hired as a HC and maybe he views him as a future Hc if for some reason saleh fails ??‍♂️

I wouldn't mind Brady. He's still young, but does have OC experience and is a creative guy.

[dcJet]

The new guy cannot be any worse than MLF.  It's too low a bar.

[dcJet]

Saleh won't bring in anyone with stature that could assume the interim position.  He's no fool.  

Get ready for another crap offense with blame being placed on growing into the new system.

"There are no shortcuts" - Robert Saleh

[varjet]

25 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

I said that the day it happened m. If they 'parted ways' without a contingency ... They were truly the definition of ' amateur hour'.

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I read somewhere that coordinators are often on two year deals.  

It is possible that MLF refused to renew.  

[fusionCA]

i will be surprised if Saleh hire a big name as OC, he is scared that if the defense go south he will be fired and the OC take his place 

[Maxman]

3 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I didn’t want to give this its own thread, but has anyone read the Athletic piece on Daboll hiring his staff? He went out of his way to avoid hiring his buddies because he wanted a team of subject experts from different systems who could collaborate on the best ways to prepare a football team, and not just try to replicate an existing program. Very compelling stuff. Many of the guys they interviewed were actually surprised they were being considered because they had no background with Daboll—they were basically cold-called. Very much worth the read:

https://theathletic.com/4079649/2023/01/13/giants-brian-daboll-coaching-staff/?source=emp_shared_article

That is one way to spin it. The other way is to realize that not a single teammate showed up to Daboll's 21st birthday party.

[T0mShane]

Cross another one off

 

[jetswinbaby!]