TeachMeHowtoDouglas Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 He also said Zach doesn’t have the ability to get out of NY and it’s tough playing on a team with little talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Untouchable Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 “Little talent” lol Last years offense was the Greatest Show on Turf compared to the sh*t Darnold had to work with throughout his tenure here. 33 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, TeachMeHowtoDouglas said: He also said Zach doesn’t have the ability to get out of NY and it’s tough playing on a team with little talent. Here come the proxies as predicted now that BYU is too tarnished by the “me first, team never” reputation to fight his own battle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Patriot Killa Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, TeachMeHowtoDouglas said: and it’s tough playing on a team with little talent. what kind of sissy bullsh*t is this? the Jets have more offense firepower than I’ve seen in 25+ years. this has all gotten very silly. the kid can’t play QB. 19 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrcoops Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, TeachMeHowtoDouglas said: He also said Zach doesn’t have the ability to get out of NY and it’s tough playing on a team with little talent. Yeah, none of it is down to Zach's own failings...it's the lack of talent in guys like Garrett Wilson and Breece Hall that's to blame... He can reinvent himself...as a 3rd string QB who runs the scout team, because that's where his level of play dictates that he should be right now. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetluv58 Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 I hope he does find his way. Would like to see the kid succeed. 16 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoJoTownsell1 Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 26 minutes ago, Untouchable said: “Little talent” lol Last years offense was the Greatest Show on Turf compared to the sh*t Darnold had to work with throughout his tenure here. Seriously. Wilson had every chance to succeed or at least not suck. He failed at both. With that said, he has the talent and maybe being forgotten as a back up behind a Rodgers or Carr would give him the chance to reinvent himself. If geno could no reason Wilson can't do the same. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 35 minutes ago, TeachMeHowtoDouglas said: He also said Zach doesn’t have the ability to get out of NY and it’s tough playing on a team with little talent. This is exactly what I'd expect out of Zach's personal QB Coach. The little piece I found interesting was the "I'm not sure he could get out of NY right now" - Gotta imagine Wilson would look for guidance and they probably both know Douglas won't sell low. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Integrity28 Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 I’d be happy to launch this little turd to the moon. 6 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dunnie Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 Ok he is being misquoted by the OP ... Watch the video Lemmings... It's short ...Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 6 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Should I be upset or befuddled? txs 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 46 minutes ago, TeachMeHowtoDouglas said: it’s tough playing on a team with "little flower" This is what he truly meant... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dunnie Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 The exact quote was something like ...it's hard to win the NFL, it harder to win when there are a bunch of injuries, it's especially hard when there are holes on the team.So ... Truth Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bleedin Green Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 Coincidentally enough, there's also another Beck who is to credit for the song considered most appropriate as Wilson's personal theme. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TommyT Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 Leonardo Da Vinci could not reinvent Zach. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChewyandtheJets Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 We put an unprepared rookie on the field behind a weak offensive line in week 1 and he was absolutely demolished by a tough carolina panther defense. It was brutal. Not sure if the kid ever got over that but he's never really shown the willingness to hang in the pocket and take a hit in exchange for the time to allow a play to develop ever since. Not sure you can be coached out of that or who's fault it ultimately was. Maybe someone tougher mentally grows from it. Maybe better coaching doesn't put him in that position in the first place or at least adapts a game plan to take advantage of whatever strengths he might have. Like all major failures there's plenty of blame to go around. Time to move on... 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JiFtheOracle Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 No wonder why the kids has no accountability, nothing is ever his fault or responsibility. 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 the offense looked 1000x better when anyone not named Zach Wilson was QB. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, TeachMeHowtoDouglas said: He also said Zach doesn’t have the ability to get out of NY and it’s tough playing on a team with little talent. Lol. Horrible summary. Hit your balls with a hammer. It was in response to a question and showed the mindset is to get better. 1 hour ago, jgb said: Here come the proxies as predicted now that BYU is too tarnished by the “me first, team never” reputation to fight his own battle. Except that’s not what he said at all. Talked half the time about needed to change his game lol. 26 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Ok he is being misquoted by the OP ... Watch the video Lemmings... It's short ... Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Par for the course lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Just now, Hal N of Provo said: Lol. Horrible summary. Hit your balls with a hammer. It was in response to a question and showed the mindset is to get better. Except that’s not what he said at all. Talked half the time about needed to change his game lol. Par for the course lol Lodge your protest with OP who provided the summary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Ok he is being misquoted by the OP ... Watch the video Lemmings... It's short ... Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Agree. I just watched the first 20 minutes, which was mainly about ZW, and the OP misquoted what Beck said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Just now, jgb said: Lodge your protest with OP who provided the summary Oh fair if you went from that lol. It’s a bad summary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Meh- this guy can go hug a dick. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, ChewyandtheJets said: We put an unprepared rookie on the field behind a weak offensive line in week 1 and he was absolutely demolished by a tough carolina panther defense. It was brutal. Not sure if the kid ever got over that but he's never really shown the willingness to hang in the pocket and take a hit in exchange for the time to allow a play to develop ever since. Not sure you can be coached out of that or who's fault it ultimately was. Maybe someone tougher mentally grows from it. Maybe better coaching doesn't put him in that position in the first place or at least adapts a game plan to take advantage of whatever strengths he might have. Like all major failures there's plenty of blame to go around. Time to move on... Good points yet a lot of people want to get behind Carr. Carr had the same issues as a raider. His brother was demolished during his brief career. I think the talent comment by beck may refer to the bad oline and guys like hall and avt being knocked out. Give Zach an oline and run game and he’ll win games. That can be said of nearly all QBs, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, C Mart said: Agree. I just watched the first 20 minutes, which was mainly about ZW, and the OP misquoted what Beck said. No problem, scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, rangerous said: Good points yet a lot of people want to get behind Carr. Carr had the same issues as a raider. His brother was demolished during his brief career. I think the talent comment by beck may refer to the bad oline and guys like hall and avt being knocked out. Give Zach an oline and run game and he’ll win games. That can be said of nearly all QBs, though. The best way for him to win games is to hand the ball off to a rookie phenom RB, throw for 80 yards and no picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, TommyT said: Leonardo Da Vinci could not reinvent Zach. A Da Vinci reference on a football message board! Hell yeah! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 The kid can't read defenses...can that be taught? I don't know how thick skinned ZW is because let's face it, he went through the gauntlet and justifiably so. It also depends on how much rope the organization has attached to his ass...we'll find out soon enough. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Crusher said: A Da Vinci reference e in a football message board! Hell yeah! The only reinvention of Zach Wilson i want to see would be something akin to the second defenestration of Prague. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, TeachMeHowtoDouglas said: He also said Zach doesn’t have the ability to get out of NY and it’s tough playing on a team with little talent. You see, I agree with this. Denzel Mims is only 6'3". CLEARLY if he was 7'5", Zach wouldn't have sailed so many balls over his head on quick slants or 5-yard outs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 28 minutes ago, rangerous said: Give Zach an oline and run game and he’ll win games. That can be said of nearly all QBs, though. Could he though.....could he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: You see, I agree with this. Denzel Mims is only 6'3". CLEARLY if he was 7'5", Zach wouldn't have sailed so many balls over his head on quick slants or 5-yard outs. Funny i was thinking ..If only Mims could grow some new hands. Edited February 18, 2023 by Dunnie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 People are too sensitive about this stuff. I think he's saying that, in college, there are games where your team is a lot more talented than your opponent and a QB can get away with things that he can't get away with in the NFL (where almost every team is talented). If you play on a great team, maybe there's more room for error but the Jets are certainly not at that level He's not wrong about the team having injuries/holes and about the Jets being a challenging place to play. He's also right, though, that Zach needs to work on getting better. He stunk last year. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: Could he though.....could he? Uhhh .. yeah ... i guess you missed that he won more games than any other QB on the roster last year ? And that all the wile he sucked. So if he gets an OLine ... any OLine that can protect ... he could be expected to improve. Edited February 18, 2023 by Dunnie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Larz said: Should I be upset or befuddled? txs upvote for good use of the underappreciated term 'befuddled' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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