UntouchableCrew Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 I like the confidence. If he’s right this team has Super Bowl upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Put it this way - AVT and Becton have All Pro potential. Now will they ever reach that ceiling who knows? The left side of the line are a couple of solid vets with Laken and Duane… also let’s take into account Rodgers has one of the quickest releases in the game. He’s not gonna be running backwards trying to be Pat Mahomes. Also if we get decimated with injuries like we did last year our depth is not that great. You would assume AVT could be an emergency tackle if things go haywire like it did last year. There's no reason to believe that about Becton but his draft position. Let's see if Becton can even survive a season as a solid starter and shake the well-deserved draft bust label before talking All-Pro. AVT has the potential, but to be quite honest still has a very high mark to reach to justify spending a high first rounder on an interior OL considering what an unmitigated disaster both of those respective draft classes have turned out to be. That's of course not AVT's fault, but is simply a big part of the reason of why the pressure is on for everything to get fixed right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Top 3 in size Top 5 in RAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Bleedin Green said: There's no reason to believe that about Becton but his draft position. Let's see if Becton can even survive a season as a solid starter and shake the well-deserved draft bust label before talking All-Pro. AVT has the potential, but to be quite honest still has a very high mark to reach to justify spending a high first rounder on an interior OL considering what an unmitigated disaster both of those respective draft classes have turned out to be. That's of course not AVT's fault, but is simply a big part of the reason of why the pressure is on for everything to get fixed right now. To be fair guys versatility last year before getting hurt has to be considered. Last years injury were just too much but that kid jumped in wherever they needed and did work, of course till he gut hurt too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, The Crusher said: To be fair guys versatility last year before getting hurt has to be considered. Last years injury were just too much but that kid jumped in wherever they needed and did work, of course till he gut hurt too. Yep, totally fair. The situation isn't his fault in the least, but for both his own sake and the team's, he either needs to be a monster on the inside or full-time at a tackle spot. He has the potential no doubt, but the failures to address spots around him make the situation a bit more difficult. Here's hoping the rest of it starts to correct itself a bit this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Comes down to staying healthy. It might take a few games for these guys to gel as a unit . The one thing that worries me and it showed again vs the Giants is Becton's pass protection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: Put it this way - AVT and Becton have All Pro potential. Now will they ever reach that ceiling who knows? The left side of the line are a couple of solid vets with Laken and Duane… also let’s take into account Rodgers has one of the quickest releases in the game. He’s not gonna be running backwards trying to be Pat Mahomes. Also if we get decimated with injuries like we did last year our depth is not that great. You would assume AVT could be an emergency tackle if things go haywire like it did last year. I think it’s fair to say Tippman has All-Pro potential as well. That’s 3 out of 5 guys. And like you said, Laken and Brown are vets who might reach a ‘solid’ playing level. But we haven’t actually seen them do it. And I agree 100% injuries and how the depth does will have a major impact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 22 hours ago, PS17 said: I found this very intriguing. Was watching the post-game interviews and this question and answer from Laken Tomlinson stood out. Ethan Greenberg was asking him about Rodgers, his influence, etc. and Tomlinson was answering with mostly cliches and fluff. Final question: “what do you think of the potential of this offensive line?” Tomlinson hesitated and just stuttered with a sh*t-eating grin for about ten seconds. And then finally he said “I’m just gonna say it. I think this is going to be one of the best offensive lines in the league. This year.” I know Tomlinson wasn’t great last year but his demeanor answering the question made me raise an eyebrow. All off-season we’ve been told the offensive line is the weakest unit on the team, and maybe it is. But if these guys play to their potential and stay healthy, maybe it’ll be a strength, or at the very least league average. I was happy to see the confidence and maybe the team and coaches feel the same way internally. Tomlinson interview starts at 5:28, the final question at 7:20. So he’s been traded. Sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 More likely: Rodgers’ quick processing and fastest snap-to-throw time in the league is going to make the OL look pretty darn good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Brown - Good Tomlinson - Bad McG - Good AVT - Good Becton - Good. 4 out of 5 ain't bad! In fact, I think Meatloaf wrote a song about our O-Line: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Brown - Average Tomlinson - Average McG - Average AVT - Good Becton - Above Average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, jgb said: More likely: Rodgers’ quick processing and fastest snap-to-throw time in the league is going to make the OL look pretty darn good. I think this gets overlooked among all the doom and gloom about the OL. If they’re an average group, Rodgers’ quick processing and pre-snap reads will elevate them to above average. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, PS17 said: I think this gets overlooked among all the doom and gloom about the OL. If they’re an average group, Rodgers’ quick processing and pre-snap reads will elevate them to above average. The biggest OL upgrade this off season isn’t a healthy Becton and AVT or addition of Tippman — it’s Rodgers himself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 haha, good one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 On 8/27/2023 at 2:33 PM, JiF said: The look he gives tells me this line hears the noise. Hears the narrative that the one big question mark that could hold this team back from greatness and clearly they're motivated to prove people wrong. If you think about it, every single guy on the line has had some type of criticism or looming question mark hanging over them. Brown - too old, coming off injury, hasnt practiced, can he still play? Tomlinson - sucks, got sold a bill of goods, way overpaid McGovern - terrible, sucks, need to upgrade, hope Tippy plays AVT - awesome but coming off injury, is he fully recovered? Becton - the is genuine hate out there for this man They've truly responded to the adversity and showed us all, didn't they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JustInFudge Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: They've truly responded to the adversity and showed us all, didn't they. Meh it’s the first half of the first game of the season. Didn’t expect to be prefect right away. No OL is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, JiF said: Meh it’s the first half of the first game of the season. Didn’t expect to be prefect right away. No OL is I didn't expect perfect either, just maybe something better than lying down and letting them open fire on an old man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 No forward progress?!?’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I didn't expect perfect either, just maybe something better than lying down and letting them open fire on an old man? Strange strategy to go low both those plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 49 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I didn't expect perfect either, just maybe something better than lying down and letting them open fire on an old man? I mean the play was designed for the T to cut block. Not a fan of it, because if you whiff we saw what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 So one if the best ol’s in the league and a defense that rivals the 85 bears yet here we are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Savage, but true he’s been a terrible free agent signing. The line is utter sh*te. Any change in the off season will be upgrade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Well that subject line didn't age well 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 38 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: Savage, but true he’s been a terrible free agent signing. The line is utter sh*te. Any change in the off season will be upgrade. JD: "So I can't really screw this up any worse than I did in the past..." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 I think I said in another thread that Laken should be restructured. I think he should just be cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSOJ Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 48% of sacks/pressures were given up bt becton and LT... both need to go 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 hours ago, LIJetsFan said: Well that subject line didn't age well I was scared he was talking about 2024 and would still be here. What a relief! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Perhaps with all those pressures, we should put him on the DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, AZSOJ said: 48% of sacks/pressures were given up bt becton and LT... both need to go What's really sad, no injuries there. They were the day 1 starters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 “This offensive line is going to be one of the best in the league.” Yeah. When you’re no longer playing in it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Great! Another thread I have to read backwards for it to make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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