Woody and Saleh engaged in “heated” convo at owner’s meeting afterparty

[The Crusher]

5 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

nobody is arguing that.

 

We are now arguing about your claim that zach didnt earn anything in life

 

3 minutes ago, bitonti said:

I said what I said and I stand by it

Perhaps the onus should be on you to prove otherwise 

Getting drafted high is not earning anything. Jamarcus Russell went 1 for Christ's sake 

It's just proof someone got fooled 

Wow, such a heated conversation!

[Warfish]

46 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

That’s just me trying to be “the next big name (I don’t even reveal my actual name)”.....

Jet Nut.....JUNIOR!

[playtowinthegame]

6 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Correct. The owner of the team that I spend a whole bunch of money on... thousands... every year since my 20's...  is an imbecile. Everything he does with this time turns to sh*t. He's dumb, rich for no reason other than inheritance, and fumbles every move he makes with this team.  The prior owner was bad too but he didn't meddle, just put dumb people in charge.  Woody does both.  Well Hess did fire Pete Caroll after his rookie HC season and replaced him with R_ _ h  K_ _ _ _e, the name that should never be said.

Have you ever come close to canceling your season tickets? 

[HighPitch]

1 minute ago, bitonti said:

I said what I said and I stand by it

Perhaps the onus should be on you to prove otherwise 

Getting drafted high is not earning anything. Jamarcus Russell went 1 for Christ's sake 

It's just proof someone got fooled 

holy crap u make a bizarre claim and then expect other to be burdened with proving u wrong when u cant prove yourself right from the get go.

Sometimes jealous ppl say "oh Mark is a dumb f I cant believe he is making over $1000 a day"

Well mark is not a dumb F. If he is indeed making 1000 a day then he must have done something to get that. Less than 50 people on planet earth have been drafted #2. it doesnt matter how or why. Even if they sold their souls to the devil or manipulated the world with their evil eye, the fact that they were drafted #2 means THEY EARNED IT

[dbatesman]

5 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

holy crap u make a bizarre claim

 

26 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

if he got drafted 2nd he must have earned it. 

[JetsFlyer]

1 hour ago, Plen T said:

Bobby Boy arguing for another DLineman top 10

apparently this might be the reasoning.. IF TRUE he needs to be shown the door  not only DL but edge

 

 

[HighPitch]

11 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

 

yup.Sorry its so hard for you to understand. Like, I was not drafted at all....but there is a good reason why I am not in the nfl....I did not play so I did not earn it. 

 

Youll get it eventually u just need to revisit and practice. Everyone can learn.

[HighPitch]

23 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

 

Wow, such a heated conversation!

me and bitonti are gonna be the undercard 

[HighPitch]

14 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

 

Let me explain this another way because I feel that you are smart and capable. I am hoping this will give you an "aha!" moment like when my math students finally understand that there are infinite solutions to a system of equations when the lines have the same slope and y intercept...because its the same line!!

 

In the 70's, there was a president named jimmy carter. 

Jimmy won the elections fair and square

are you with me still? good....

So he was elected democratically fair and square

After his term was done, for many years people made claims that he was the worst president ever.

Now, heres the thing.......despite maybe being the worst president ever (which i disagree but not important) he was elected by the people.

You cannot say that he did not EARN the presidency just because things didnt work out

 

Now apply that to Zach and let me know if you have any difficulty understanding this concept. I have faith in you

[#27TheDominator]

35 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

holy crap u make a bizarre claim and then expect other to be burdened with proving u wrong when u cant prove yourself right from the get go.

Sometimes jealous ppl say "oh Mark is a dumb f I cant believe he is making over $1000 a day"

Well mark is not a dumb F. If he is indeed making 1000 a day then he must have done something to get that. Less than 50 people on planet earth have been drafted #2. it doesnt matter how or why. Even if they sold their souls to the devil or manipulated the world with their evil eye, the fact that they were drafted #2 means THEY EARNED IT

 

7 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

Let me explain this another way because I feel that you are smart and capable. I am hoping this will give you an "aha!" moment like when my math students finally understand that there are infinite solutions to a system of equations when the lines have the same slope and y intercept...because its the same line!!

 

In the 70's, there was a president named jimmy carter. 

Jimmy won the elections fair and square

are you with me still? good....

So he was elected democratically fair and square

After his term was done, for many years people made claims that he was the worst president ever.

Now, heres the thing.......despite maybe being the worst president ever (which i disagree but not important) he was elected by the people.

You cannot say that he did not EARN the presidency just because things didnt work out

 

Now apply that to Zach and let me know if you have any difficulty understanding this concept. I have faith in you

I would just like to point out that in this lesson you have equated making a deal with the devil and being democratically elected president of the United States fair and square.

[dbatesman]

6 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

Let me explain this another way because I feel that you are smart and capable. I am hoping this will give you an "aha!" moment like when my math students finally understand that there are infinite solutions to a system of equations when the lines have the same slope and y intercept...because its the same line!!

 

In the 70's, there was a president named jimmy carter. 

Jimmy won the elections fair and square

are you with me still? good....

So he was elected democratically fair and square

After his term was done, for many years people made claims that he was the worst president ever.

Now, heres the thing.......despite maybe being the worst president ever (which i disagree but not important) he was elected by the people.

You cannot say that he did not EARN the presidency just because things didnt work out

 

Now apply that to Zach and let me know if you have any difficulty understanding this concept. I have faith in you

Remember when 41 million people voted for Zach Wilson to go 2nd overall

[HighPitch]

4 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Remember when 41 million people voted for Zach Wilson to go 2nd overall

I am disappointed. You are still struggling with this simple concept

[HighPitch]

7 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

 

I would just like to point out that in this lesson you have equated making a deal with the devil and being democratically elected president of the United States fair and square.

thats a fair point. 

Sometimes teachers get frustrated with these jits and lose it. I hope the carter analogy helps the strugglers understand that personal dislike, no matter how warranted, does not trump reality

[Mr. Rogers]

54 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Zack “Dianna & I have 30 individual Jets sources but can’t break a signing, release, or restructure” Rosenblatt was f’ng around on X, cracking jokes about movies, games, maps, or other BS, I was here 2-3 days prior telling people that the Jets and, specifically, Tyron Smith were talking, going as far to say that I don’t think that it’s unlikely that he signs here

I support you sir. I've said it in other threads, but I simply can't stand russinni and Rosenblatt. A number of friends have tried to get me to join Athletic subscriptions to get a discount, but I won't because of these two clowns. Which is a shame, because it seems like their baseball and hockey writers are excellent and I like their beat writers for my Mets.

A question for you, sorry if it's already been asked elsewhere: is the prevailing feeling that the Jets want to bring in a veteran DE? Or was Clowney just the Jets being opportunistic?

[Sperm Edwards]

1 hour ago, Warfish said:

You'll need to take the failure of talent evaluation during COVID up with the entire NFL Bit, because despite your denials, Wilson was unquestionably a top prospect in that draft class.  I didn't agree, you didn't agree, but near on the entire NFL agreed as did near on all the various scouting entities/media.  And a damn large percentage of JN agreed too.

Your idea that the JETS somehow led all of that is laughable on it's face.  The league had a rough year during a global pandemic with limited access at scouting talent.  That's all.  

Nope. It was all connections that's allowed him to stay rostered on his team for a 4th NFL season despite better-than-nobody level failures.

Just Zach Wilson. And Akili Smith.

Of course, Akili Smith's mom was very tight with Bernie Kroger so by extension that more or less made him Cincinnati royalty. 

[#27TheDominator]

6 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

thats a fair point. 

Sometimes teachers get frustrated with these jits and lose it. I hope the carter analogy helps the strugglers understand that personal dislike, no matter how warranted, does not trump reality

Well, you seem to think that duping a couple of morons into thinking you are "the Man" during the covid year against sh*t competition equates with earning something.  Perhaps you should consider adjusting your view of reality.

[dbatesman]

27 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

I am disappointed. You are still struggling with this simple concept

you should explain it again

[T0mShane]

26 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

thats a fair point. 

Sometimes teachers get frustrated with these jits and lose it. I hope the carter analogy helps the strugglers understand that personal dislike, no matter how warranted, does not trump reality

Don’t you work in a school? 

[T0mShane]

2 hours ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said:

That’s weird because literally the only thing in my contract is I can’t make fun of anybody besides you without getting banned so I figured you were here for target practice.

It’s good for the SEO. 

[Jack Straw]

2 hours ago, bitonti said:

Oh yeah his merit losing to coastal Carolina 

 

What exactly is your point?

Coastal Carolina was the 14th ranked team (ahead of Clemson and South Carolina) in the AP poll and was 11-0 before losing their bowl game. Zach Wilson and BYU finished 11-1, with their only loss coming against a highly ranked Coastal Carolina team, in a game that was scheduled with only a few days' notice.

Is this really what you're holding against Zach Wilson, in a season where he threw 33 TD to 3 INTs? My man, you'll have to do better than that.

The fact is that Zach Wilson was universally loved in the 2021 draft. Some even had him as QB 1 --- but all, at the very least, had him as QB 2. The JetBlue conspiracy theory is unbelievable in that there is zero evidence to support it being true. 

[greenwichjetfan]

Mods, please move this to the Steph Curry says moon landing is a hoax thread.

I miss @CTM and @Villain The Foe.

 

Sorta. 

[Jet Nut]

2 hours ago, bitonti said:

Scouting is group think and the group knew he was going 2

He should not have received a 1st Rd grade at all and no he didn't earn his draft status 

Any more questions I'd be happy to answer them 

 

He earned his draft status, it’s a dumb argument that he didn’t.  It’s beyond dumb to claim he didn’t earn 1st round status because he did.

Youll be answer these questions.  Unfortunately the answers amount to gibberish 

[Matt39]

2 hours ago, slimjasi said:

You hit on my biggest issue with the JetBlue nonsense. I have no issue with people believing silly things, but when folks resort to revisionist history to make their beliefs seem more plausible, I get annoyed. 

Wilson was widely regarded as the 2nd best QB prospect in that draft. If the Jets didn’t take him, SF would have. 

Woody flat out said he cares more about the republican nominee winning the presidency than winning football games. Why is this so hard to believe?

[dbatesman]

38 minutes ago, Jack Straw said:

What exactly is your point?

Coastal Carolina was the 14th ranked team (ahead of Clemson and South Carolina) in the AP poll and was 11-0 before losing their bowl game. Zach Wilson and BYU finished 11-1, with their only loss coming against a highly ranked Coastal Carolina team, in a game that was scheduled with only a few days' notice.

Is this really what you're holding against Zach Wilson, in a season where he threw 33 TD to 3 INTs? My man, you'll have to do better than that.

The fact is that Zach Wilson was universally loved in the 2021 draft. Some even had him as QB 1 --- but all, at the very least, had him as QB 2. The JetBlue conspiracy theory is unbelievable in that there is zero evidence to support it being true. 

you hear that @bitonti? it's called earning it

[slimjasi]

3 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Woody flat out said he cares more about the republican nominee winning the presidency than winning football games. Why is this so hard to believe?

Did you mean to reply to me? lol. No idea what you are on about or how it relates to what I was saying. 

[TuscanyTile2]

1 hour ago, JetsFlyer said:

apparently this might be the reasoning.. IF TRUE he needs to be shown the door  not only DL but edge

 

That would be a legitimate complaint on Woody's part.  Saleh has been a HC for 3 years now, yet he still speaks and acts like he's a DC.

It's absolutely ridiculous at this point that Saleh still acts this way.  If he wants to be a DC then "re-sign" with the Jets and go back to the 49ers as their DC (or where ever he can find a job).

 

[Matt39]

3 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Did you mean to reply to me? lol. No idea what you are on about or how it relates to what I was saying. 

You don’t see how the owner not caring about winning would cloud his judgement ? Woodys primary focus this year is the election . 

[Matt39]

5 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

you hear that @bitonti? it's called earning it

Hey it’s kinda curious Zach’s this bad and is still on the Jets

well he EARNED it…IDIOT

[RutgersJetFan]

2 hours ago, Mr. Rogers said:

The gringots bank one where you tunnel through rock with the dragon and the ride cart spins around a sh*t load? My friend once got stuck spinning near the end of the ride... he had to go home and shower after as most of the ride car had puked EVERYWHERE.

I haven't laughed as hard since

In front of a giant screen to boot! Who the hell designed that thing? Like oh hey let's take the gravitational chaos machines the Apollo astronauts trained in and turn it into a children's ride.

[slimjasi]

3 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

You don’t see how the owner not caring about winning would cloud his judgement ? Woodys primary focus this year is the election . 

Woody caring or not caring about football has nothing to do with what I was saying - which was that Zach Wilson was the consensus #2 QB headed into that draft. I wasn’t talking about Woody.
 

I still don’t understand why you are quoting me. 

[TuscanyTile2]

Saleh has been a disaster since he got here but he's avoided scrutiny because there was a rebuild going on plus he had a built-in scapegoat in ZW.  People are only now starting to focus more closely on the horrible job he's done and it's not a pretty picture. 

 

[Warfish]

4 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Woody flat out said he cares more about the republican nominee winning the presidency than winning football games.

You don’t see how the owner not caring about winning would cloud his judgement ? Woodys primary focus this year is the election . 

"Not caring" and "Caring more about who wins the U.S. Presidency" are not the same thing Matt.

People can, in fact, care about more than one thing at a time.

I care quite a bit about the Jets winning games.  It's one of my biggest and longest held passions in my life.

But I too care more about who wins our Presidency than who wins a football game. 

Frankly, I would hope most/all people feel this way, or I'd say your priorities about what is important in the world are truly and deeply ****ed up.

[RutgersJetFan]

2 hours ago, bitonti said:

The only reason he was considered a top prospect was because the Jets leaked he was going top 3 before bowl season was over 

It was group think. People believe what they want... it happens every year 

It's happening right now with Caleb Williams in fact 

 

Wilson had a fantastic QBASE that put him as the clear #2. This is a really dumb discussion.

[Matt39]

5 minutes ago, Warfish said:

"Not caring" and "Caring more about who wins the U.S. Presidency" are not the same thing Matt.

People can, in fact, care about more than one thing at a time.

I care quite a bit about the Jets winning games.  It's one of my biggest and longest held passions in my life.

But I too care more about who wins our Presidency than who wins a football game. 

Frankly, I would hope most/all people feel this way, or I'd say your priorities about what is important in the world are truly and deeply ****ed up.

Sure. So Woody using his toy to court influence and a major donor is well within his right as owner of the Jets, winning be damned. Thank you l. Same reason why Trump chose Woody. Zach isn’t good at QB like Woody isn’t good at international relations

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

 

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