OuttaSightPF Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 @AdamSchefter: Filed to ESPN: Bills have notified LB Kiko Alonso he is going to be traded to Philadelphia for RB LeSean McCoy. Trade official next week. I was most impressed with the comments from former players on NFL network like McGuiness who said that Philly players are taking notice. Deshawn last year, McCoy this year... Kelly is losing that locker room day by day, and now that he's the person in charge of personnel... There's no buffer or way to hide. He's an ego maniac and it's going to be his downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 "Shady McCoy named Offensive Captain" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 When was the last time trading for a back with mileage worked out?thomas jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 @AdamSchefter: Filed to ESPN: Bills have notified LB Kiko Alonso he is going to be traded to Philadelphia for RB LeSean McCoy. Trade official next week. Bills fans are such scumbags. They are all over the message boards saying Kikos knee must be toast so it's a good trade. They actually want their team to try and pull a fast one, like their wont be a thorough physical before it's offical. They are ignorant and have zero character up there. Damn. They also believe that with Rex as the coach it doesn't matter if Hughes and Alonzo leave... "Rex has got this" .... LMFAO!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 It's funny how this whole thread is about Rex making this trade, like the GM had no input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Would rather have Kiko and draft a stud RB > declining expensive Shady. Great move for Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Spiller us going to have over 2,000 combined yards for the Eagles this year. Perfect fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Well, our 4th round picks have been looking like that as of late. Good to see we're on the same page. And the regime that was in place when those picks were made is gone now. Thats where this silly argument falls apart. Nevermind the fact that Glennon has looked like hot garbage to anyone with two eyes. He isn't anyone future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So just a random thought here... Could Alonso be a piece in a move to trade up for Mariota? Most teams wouldn't want to touch McCoy's salary but Alonso is a premium defensive player still on a rookie contract and worth something to almost any team. The Raiders, for example, badly need an ILB. Just something to keep an eye on. Raiders do have a need for MLB, but he will most likely come from Fa. Nate Irving( Broncos) knows Delrio defense has a good chance to be Raiders MLB. There is even a rumor they might look at Malcolm Smith ( little undersized) for MLB. They can play the undersized Smith because they plan to play with two massive DT (Justin Ellis and Terrance Knighton )clogging up the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Shady fell off towards the end of last year. I think Philly got the waaayyyy beter end of this deal. Holy sh*t Rex Ryan is in love with his Ground and Pound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Raiders do have a need for MLB, but he will most likely come from Fa. Nate Irving( Broncos) knows Delrio defense has a good chance to be Raiders MLB. There is even a rumor they might look at Malcolm Smith ( little undersized) for MLB. They can play the undersized Smith because they plan to play with two massive DT (Justin Ellis and Terrance Knighton )clogging up the middle. We will need a ILB too once Ryan snags Harris away from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Is Shady even good between the tackles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I was most impressed with the comments from former players on NFL network like McGuiness who said that Philly players are taking notice. Deshawn last year, McCoy this year... Kelly is losing that locker room day by day, and now that he's the person in charge of personnel... There's no buffer or way to hide. He's an ego maniac and it's going to be his downfall. They didn't tag Maclin....wonder if this makes him think twice about resigning in Philly? If so, I'd throw the bank at him and trade for Foles if Mariota slips to us. We could open next year with our offense looking like this: QB: Foles RB: Spiller, Ivory, Powell WR: Decker, Maclin, Kerley, Draft pick/FA TE: Amaro & Cumberland + a more reliable blocker At Philly's 20 spot we could literally do anything we wanted and be in really comfortable shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 RB rich draft, trade for high-priced RB, give up a player that almost stole DROY from Sheldon. Makes sense, lol. Really starting to wonder if any of it was Tanny's fault. Keep fishing. It's s great move for buffalo and the jets gms have sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 RB rich draft, trade for high-priced RB, give up a player that almost stole DROY from Sheldon. Makes sense, lol. Really starting to wonder if any of it was Tanny's fault. I have a natural aversion for starting RBs (making big money) with tread on them. I actually think I would have kept Alonzo, if he has fully recovered. He is an up and comer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Wow. They just gave up Kiko Alonzo and let Jerry Hughes walk to FA. To think that Rex is the coach there while this is happening is pretty unbelievable. sh*t just got real with Shady in the division though. I guess we know for sure that CJ aint going back. Yup. A top ten D, no doubt about it. Watch McCoy come up smelling like fertilizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 thomas jones Curtis Martin (wasn't traded for but still works) oh and Chris Ivory hasn't been bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 What? McCoy is 26 years old dude, stop it. He will be 27 when the season starts. And thats not a young 27 with the type of heavy use he's been subjected to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 If the Eagles dont trade up to #2 I think we'll be the team that they trade up with at #6. They're not going to trade up with the Redskins in their own division and I think the Raiders would prefer to get their WR for Derek Carr. I wouldn't rule the Raiders out as being a team that trades with the Eagles.( offer sweet enough they will drop back to Eagles spot). Again only player they might not trade back is if Leonard Williams is still on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 The Jets need to counter this deal by signing Ray Rice who will out perform McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 PFF had McCoy rated as the 55th best back this past season. So. There's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 PFF had McCoy rated as the 55th best back this past season. So. There's that. PFF must be utterly useless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 PFF must be utterly useless... Almost as useless as a 12 million dollar RB who has 1500 carries under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 What everyone is ignoring is that the bills have not made the playoffs for a longer time than any other team. They can keep Spikes who Rex liked to man the middle. McCoy is the best friend a young qb can have. True and a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Of coarse it's not that easy. It's just a simple question to say who doe you think is overall more valuable. Just for discussion. Obviously all the variables need to be considered. When having a discussion I find it difficult to remove chosen variables for the sake of creating a potentially different discussion than the one already taking place. Especially in the early going of said discussion Then again I often confuse myself before anyone else even joins the discussion so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Michael Schottey @Schottey · 54m54 minutes ago Source tells me Eagles would’ve cut LeSean McCoy and were just calling around to find *anything* for him. Bills only took 20 min to say yes. Forgetting the source is the Bleacher Report, I find this hilarious. It just so "Rex". I can see it happening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsmanjb Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Just when I thought things couldn't get worse for us...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOZ THE JET Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 i'm not afraid of the Bills they just got worse on defense & still dosent have a QB, i bet they really think they are doing something over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I am at a bar right now imbibing on my 4th beer. It just dawned on me: EARLY PRE-DRAFT TRADE ALA BRADWAY IN 2003 for the #4 overall pick to select Dwayne Robertson DT Kentucky. Trade up to #4 with the Raiders, shouldn't cost too much to slide up 2 spots, and be the best position to either select whichever QB drops or trade a RANSOM to Philly for Mariotta. Raiders still get their WR @ #6 Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Michael Schottey @Schottey · 54m54 minutes ago Source tells me Eagles would’ve cut LeSean McCoy and were just calling around to find *anything* for him. Bills only took 20 min to say yes. Forgetting the source is the Bleacher Report, I find this hilarious. It just so "Rex". I can see it happening... VERY REX! That how we acquired Santonio Holmes, recall? I was ecstatic at the time as well (we were CLEARLY going for it) b/c we JUST GOT A SB MVP for only a 5th rounder! Buyer beware. Rex will KILL that poor town's soul & last source of pride within 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 When was the last time trading for a back with mileage worked out? First off, consider how unusual it is that a team is willing to trade away a back that has such value. So through trade or otherwise, picking up a RB with at least a few seasons, serious injury, or both under his belt? I'm sure the goal posts will get moved, with new criteria after I answer, but off the top of my head? Marshawn Lynch Marshall Faulk Reggie Bush Antowain Smith Corey Dillon Thomas Jones Darren Sproles Clinton Portis Willis McGahee Ricky Williams Probably I'm missing at least one obvious one. That said, I have no idea if this will work out or be a laughable failure in hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 VERY REX! That how we acquired Santonio Holmes, recall? I was ecstatic at the time as well (we were CLEARLY going for it) b/c we JUST GOT A SB MVP for only a 5th rounder! Buyer beware. Rex will KILL that poor town's soul & last source of pride within 3 years I would make that trade for Holmes with our 5th round pick every year. He failure was that we didn't take the money and run and let him hit free agency. We would have recouped a 3rd round compensatory pick to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So when's Sanchez signing so they can start Bills West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Curious trade for the Eagles. With Maclin a free agent, they have zero playmakers under contract. Except Sproles, but who knows when that cliff is coming? Seems like Kelly's Oregon hard-on got the best of him. The Bills should still get a couple good years out of McCoy. I'd say it's worth it for a LB coming off an ACL tear. Their defense certainly did not seem to miss him last year. All that said, I ain't scared. Not of McCoy, not of any opposing RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 It just is. I see. Kind of like when Rex chose scrub azz Geno to start the season over Vick. That was his choice. I don't think Rex has the input power like Chip Kelly does. Overall, two great players trade places but it doesn't make sense for the Bills who could have just resigned Spiller and kept Kiko, who is a phenom in the making. Rex is a defensive coach. I cant see him signing off on this. And yes you are right - I am out of my mind. In Buddhist philosophy, one strives to be out of his mind. It is when one is in ones mind that he is not in touch with reality and is obsessed with his own thoughts. Ever see a guy walking down the street talking to himself. He aint on a cell phone. He's wrapped up in his mind. Absolutely out of my mind. Yes I am. Thanks for the compliment. You must be if you compare lame duck Rex Ryan (Jets) who had absolutely no saying here towards the end, to the guy who currently is the face of the Bills and pretty much running the show over there. He was very involved his first 2 years here, him and Tanny ran the show. It wasn't Tanny. But you're gonna go back to lame duck Rex in his final 2-3 years when each week he was about to be fired. Of course he had no say in the end. It's not like he did a good job helping build "up" this team. Most his picks and FA pickups were just utter garbage and a waste of money. Now he's in Buffalo. If you honestly try to tell me that Rex did not ok that trade, if you're honestly trying to tell me that this was a Doug Whaley move and they basically went over Rex's head then you're just out of your mind. I don't know what else to say. Because none of it makes any sense. You don't sign such a "marquee" type HC like Rex Ryan who had other opportunities but chose the Bills instead, pay him the kind of money you do, make him the face of your franchise the way you do, and not promise him final say in terms of building that roster. You don't bring in Rex Ryan and then trade one of your best young players who happens to play ILB in Rex's defense for a RB without Rex either knowing about it or giving his ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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