JETSfaninNE Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Could a team move up to the No. 1 overall pick in the draft to select quarterback Jared Goff? Is he already drawing comparisons to Andrew Luck? Watch as Matt Miller breaks down what one general manager told him about the quarterback prospect out of Cal. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2625494-insider-buzz-nfl-gm-expects-goff-to-go-no-1-overall-smartest-qb-since-luck Could the Jets sneakily make the biggest move on Draft day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Yes because NFL teams tell everyone the truth about prospects they love, and don't love even as anonymous sources to the media . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Doubtful. Barring Wilkerson being considered a major bargaining chip in a deal with the Titans, it would cost the Jets all of this year's and next year's picks to try to make such a move. I really can't see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I got to say, Goff stock is all over the place. I've seen some that have him dropping to us if teams like the Rams/Browns trade/pick up their QB via FA. Now he can go as high as 1. This draft will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: I got to say, Goff stock is all over the place. I've seen some that have him dropping to us if teams like the Rams/Browns trade/pick up their QB via FA. Now he can go as high as 1. This draft will be interesting. I honestly don't know much about Goff. I've been more interested in Wentz personally but it seems he's all but a lock for the Browns. I guess both their pro days will be more telling and then we'll really start to hear some crazy rumors and the rest of the FA QB chips will fall into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 by the time we get to the draft, TEN will have auctioned off the top pick and the QB's go 1, 2. just like basically every other year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 16 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Doubtful. Barring Wilkerson being considered a major bargaining chip in a deal with the Titans, it would cost the Jets all of this year's and next year's picks to try to make such a move. I really can't see that happening. In a related story Woody Johnson just hired Mike Ditka as a special consultant to the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 10 minutes ago, The Crusher said: In a related story Woody Johnson just hired Mike Ditka as a special consultant to the draft. Best post of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 2 hours ago, JETSfaninNE said: Could a team move up to the No. 1 overall pick in the draft to select quarterback Jared Goff? Is he already drawing comparisons to Andrew Luck? Watch as Matt Miller breaks down what one general manager told him about the quarterback prospect out of Cal. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2625494-insider-buzz-nfl-gm-expects-goff-to-go-no-1-overall-smartest-qb-since-luck Could the Jets sneakily make the biggest move on Draft day? well,.. we all know nfl teams NEVER " blow smoke " re the draft / players cheers ~ ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I do think Goff is the #1 QB. I also agree with Bit that he could go #1 in a trade but it will all depend on how greedy Tennessee re compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 48 minutes ago, JETSfaninNE said: I honestly don't know much about Goff. I've been more interested in Wentz personally but it seems he's all but a lock for the Browns. I guess both their pro days will be more telling and then we'll really start to hear some crazy rumors and the rest of the FA QB chips will fall into place. Me too. I've been really busy the past 2 months and really couldnt dive into the rookie class. I do like what I seen from Wentz so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 45 minutes ago, bitonti said: by the time we get to the draft, TEN will have auctioned off the top pick and the QB's go 1, 2. just like basically every other year Good chance of that, I agree. Especially with the change in compensation for young QBs who haven't accomplished anything yet (but merely haven't been colossal disasters yet). Used to be sometimes a meh guy could get a decent 2nd contract filled with incentives, but with easy outs after like 1 season without destroying the team. Now you're seeing guys who have shown to fall on their faces at least somewhat, who have nothing notable to offset that other than their draft status and later birthdate, are getting contracts with a higher yearly rate than pretty much any non-QB in the game. So yeah, there's a really good chance of that happening any year where it's not "known" that it's a weak (or lousy) class that's particularly weak at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 1 hour ago, bitonti said: by the time we get to the draft, TEN will have auctioned off the top pick and the QB's go 1, 2. just like basically every other year This is how I see it, too. I guess he could bomb his Pro Day and that plus the small hands could lead to a Bridgewater-like fall, but it sure feels like that was an opportunity we're never going to see again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 1 hour ago, JETSfaninNE said: I honestly don't know much about Goff. I've been more interested in Wentz personally but it seems he's all but a lock for the Browns. I guess both their pro days will be more telling and then we'll really start to hear some crazy rumors and the rest of the FA QB chips will fall into place. Eventually a top drafted QB will have to go Archie Manning/Eli on the Browns. I mean come on already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 2 hours ago, JETSfaninNE said: Could a team move up to the No. 1 overall pick in the draft to select quarterback Jared Goff? Is he already drawing comparisons to Andrew Luck? Watch as Matt Miller breaks down what one general manager told him about the quarterback prospect out of Cal. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2625494-insider-buzz-nfl-gm-expects-goff-to-go-no-1-overall-smartest-qb-since-luck Could the Jets sneakily make the biggest move on Draft day? I can honestly see this happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Tennessee is one of the few teams we might be able to trade mowilk to in some kind of package deal. Their De's are nothing too spectacular and they have a fair bit of cap room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Being as smart as Luck does not make a QB as talented as Luck ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jett Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Well didnt this guy throw like 5 picks In a college game? That's insane hahaha. Also, I heard hogan was also as smart as luck. How many qbs are as smart as him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswin Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 The talking heads I've heard say Wentz most ready, Pax big upside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 smokescreen, lol this is a crap QB draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Somebody is gonna have Joey Bosa fall in their laps at 3 4 or 5 and be very goddamn happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I saw him play all year because I live on the West Coast. He's a good pro style QB, but I wouldn't say he's of Luck's quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Larz said: this is a crap draft fixt I like Goff, want a QB, and do think you'd have to trade up to 1 to get the one you want. 2 hours ago, Bugg said: Somebody is gonna have Joey Bosa fall in their laps at 3 4 or 5 and be very goddamn happy. Phil Rivers kinda earned it THO, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 All I can really go on is the highlight reel stuff on NFLN and ESPN. with that said, what jumps out at me in those highlights is that goff is moving around-either by design or forced- and still shows accuracy. Also looked real accurate in combine drills that I saw. I'm starting to think he's better than wentz. I didn't think that last week. what does this mean for us? Jack sh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Larz said: smokescreen, lol this is a crap QB draft False narrative, it's only because the top guys mostly played in pro-style offenses and didn't put up gaudy numbers or win a Heisman. The top are actually all accurate, pro style experienced, good arms and pretty smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, NYJCAP2 said: False narrative, it's only because the top guys mostly played in pro-style offenses and didn't put up gaudy numbers or win a Heisman. The top are actually all accurate, pro style experienced, good arms and pretty smart. forget mayock and the mock drafters, they have a plan written out on how they are going to move guys up and down and hype them. http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/03/nfl_scout_on_2016_draft_worst_offensive_talent_in.html http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000592933/article/scout-id-hate-to-be-team-in-need-of-qb-in-2016-nfl-draft people are going to talk themselves into a QB, not what you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Smartest "since" Luck. We're talking guys like EJ Manual, Jameis, Geno and Manziel. These are guys Joewilly12 could crush taking the Wonderlic while posting his lasted FA thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 47 minutes ago, Larz said: forget mayock and the mock drafters, they have a plan written out on how they are going to move guys up and down and hype them. http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/03/nfl_scout_on_2016_draft_worst_offensive_talent_in.html http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000592933/article/scout-id-hate-to-be-team-in-need-of-qb-in-2016-nfl-draft people are going to talk themselves into a QB, not what you want Undoubtedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 forget mayock and the mock drafters, they have a plan written out on how they are going to move guys up and down and hype them. http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/03/nfl_scout_on_2016_draft_worst_offensive_talent_in.html http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000592933/article/scout-id-hate-to-be-team-in-need-of-qb-in-2016-nfl-draft people are going to talk themselves into a QB, not what you want You think I'm basing this on where mockers slot them every two weeks? I could also show you links with respected people saying the complete opposite of your links. What's your point? Wentz and Goff have many particular strengths that correlate to the nfl game. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 10 hours ago, Villain The Foe said: I got to say, Goff stock is all over the place. I've seen some that have him dropping to us if teams like the Rams/Browns trade/pick up their QB via FA. Now he can go as high as 1. This draft will be interesting. Hes not dropping to 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 2 hours ago, SayNoToDMC said: Smartest "since" Luck. We're talking guys like EJ Manual, Jameis, Geno and Manziel. These are guys Joewilly12 could crush taking the Wonderlic while posting his lasted FA thread. And Luck was the smartest since Peyton? The point would then be that in 20 years there have been a handful of smart QBs. Not how many dumb ones there were but how hard it is to find a smart one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 More like smartest since Fitzpatrick (Harvard). Dan Marino was a dunce, but I'd have him on the Jets any day. The main question is can he play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 The GM in question was the Titans GM, trying to drum up interest Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 18 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Yes because NFL teams tell everyone the truth about prospects they love, and don't love even as anonymous sources to the media . I would say though, it's not as big a secret anymore. Stuff like this. It's gotten so big so fast. I feel like you'd use to see more misdirection and false rumors like 10 years ago and not so/as much nowadays. At least in more straight up evaluation. There's so much information out there you're really not tricking anyone anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 For what it's worth, sounds like neither Cook nor Hackenberg lit it up on their Pro Days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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