Lith Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: Lol this was really a great O-line class.... It was a good interior OL class, not a good tackle class. But most of the quality came off the board early -- that was where it really hurt us not to have those 2s. That would have been the place to add OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: The ironic thing is that the person most responsible for that injury IS NOW OFF THE TEAM. Seriously I saw our OL play well at points last year. We beat the ******* Jacksonville Jaguars, they of the best defense in the NFL at home win this OL Same year that Petty gets crushed and McCown gets injured for the season (though that happens no matter the team he plays on). But outside of the person most responsible being "OFF THE TEAM"....We had the worst center in the league yet didn't have enough depth at the Oline position to even bench him. Brian Winters had a ripped abdomen and was injured and played poorly. When he could no longer play the Jets was once again exposed for not having the proper depth to fill the spot. We have a slightly underrated yet highly injury prone LT, we have a LG who had his worst season last year and is getting older, we let Wesley Johnson, the worst Center in the league walk only to pick up the 2nd worst Center in the league in Swanson and another center in Long who has a history of injury/concussions. There's no excuse for this. We've had this Oline issue way before D'Brick and Mangold left because we all knew that they were on the latter part of their career and would need to be replaced. This Front office has invested two 5th round picks to the Offensive line in 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Is this a bit? It's a simple question. If you want to do your schtick, go ahead. I don't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: McCown had no issues having Career year. Jets 2018 Offense: Ranked 24th in Points Scored. 28th in Yards from Scrimmage. "Career Year". 2 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: There aren’t many starting spots on the jets Oline to be had this year anyway . So it’s is what it’s is . This is poor Oline class and all the decent ones been gone . I'll say it again, better PRAY Darnold doesn't get hurt, in practice, in preseason and late in the year, behind this sh*theap of a Jets O-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 St. Brown still hasn't been picked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: We just watched the Philadelphia Eagles use D line depth to win the Super Bowl. Without their top OL in Jason Peters Their depth was at edge rusher, not DT. However, I do agree that because the Eagles won the Super Bowl with their backup LT, we don't need to bother investing any resources into the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 RB Trenton Cannon. Nice. Speed Overview Tremendously explosive change-of-pace runner who will need to live in the cafeteria and the weight room early on to help build his frame up to NFL standards. Cannon has juice for days and that big-play ability in space will be very appealing to teams as a likely undrafted free agent. Cannon can catch it and has a history of handling kick return duties when needed so that may be enough to help him find a practice squad this season. Strengths Explosive athlete with breakaway potential. Posted 38.5-inch vertical leap and 10-foot-9 broad jump. Ran 4.40-second 40-yard dash with electrifying 1.49 10-yard split. Gets to top gear immediately to pull away from defenders when racing around the corner. Loose hips with lateral agility to make sharp, late cuts to avoid tacklers who are on top of him. Homerun ability with 35 rushing touchdowns over the last two seasons. Offers special teams potential with three kick returns for touchdowns during career Weaknesses Smallish back at just 185 pounds. Lacks frame for anything more than a change-of-pace role. Unable to push through contact to break tackles and add to his yardage after contact. Will get too far along into the run and ends up limiting his backside options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Trenton Cannon, Virgina St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 There is our punt returner. Trenton Cannon. Virginia State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Warfish said: You're right, it's so much wiser to roster 142 mediocre D Linemen instead. Super Unit! We had a gaping hole opposite Leo heading into this draft and McLendon is on the wrong side of 30 and in the last year of his deal. Obviously the Jets didn’t like what they were seeing/hearing from guys like Hankins, Bromley, Howard, etc when they brought them in before the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: That's why they wanted the Jets to draft an elite LT at pick 179. No one said elite. But it's not like any DL guy they've picked is a lock for 12 sacks either. The OL AGAIN gets neglected under this crew, the defense gets tons of picks, most of whom are JAGs, not superstars. Would a few depth OL JAG guys hurt? You can only play 11 defenders anyway. And there are also going to be free agent defenders. Not much point to picking a primo QB and not protecting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 45 minutes ago, choon328 said: If you're drafting for need in the 6th round you're a f*cking idiot. The Jets are preparing for life after Leonard Williams. They've learned their lesson about paying a 3/4 DE top money. With these late round picks you have to take the best guys on your board regardless of position. Thank you!! Hmmmm this isn't to hard to figure out........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 but hey reach for them just because Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Who?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: Trenton Cannon, Virgina St. Nice pick. I liked Carter better, but Cannon is a good KR and speed RB too. Good pick here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 If the Oline struggles, there is no reason to play Darnold this year. Let McCown take the lumps and then rebuild the Oline next offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 http://draftanalyst.com/trenton-cannon TRENTON CANNON Bio: Two-year starter who was named CIAA Offensive Player of the Year and led the conference with 18 rushing touchdowns while pacing Virginia State with 1,214 rushing yards on 168 carries and catching 18 passes for 203 yards and two scores in 2017. Led the team with 174 carries, 1,174 rushing yards and nine rushing TDs as a junior. Walked on at Virginia State after transferring from Shepherd University. Pos: Explosive skill player who picks up big chunks of yardage as both a ball carrier and a return specialist. Quick through the hole, runs with lean and has a tremendous burst of speed. Dangerous if given the slightest bit of open space, beats defenders into the open field and runs to daylight. Fast in a straight line and laterally, displays vision and works runs. Keeps his feet moving on contact, uses an effective straight arm and breaks arm tackles. Keeps plays in bounds and works to pick up positive yardage. Home run-hitting threat as a return specialist and shows the ability to take it the distance. Follows blocks as a ball carrier and as a kick returner. Neg: Not a natural pass catcher. Often clutches receptions against his frame and does too much body catching. Not a big-bodied back. Analysis: Cannon is a physically gifted skill player who can be used as a rotational ball carrier and return specialist. He needs to improve his pass catching, but his ability to alter the momentum of games with big kick returns is very attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Untouchable said: We had a gaping hole opposite Leo heading into this draft and McLendon is on the wrong side of 30 and in the last year of his deal. Obviously the Jets didn’t like what they were seeing/hearing from guys like Hankins, Bromley, Howard, etc when they brought them in before the draft. And what, we're planning to fill that "gaping hole" with what, five guys at once? By the way, what caused that gaping hole, where once was not one but THREE very good D-Linemen in Snacks, Wilk and Sheldon? Hmmm, funny how bad or expendable those three all became.....but hey,. we got 18 new D Linemen, so we're all good. We'll just start DLinemen on the O-line if needed, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, KRL said: The problem with fans talking about OLine play is they never consider that a sack or a bad play isn't the line's fault but the QB's fault. A QB that doesn't understand what he's seeing defensively will get himself killed and EVERYONE will say the line "sucks" but it's not true. OLine play can only be evaluated with tape and the rewind button on the remote I dont really know what you're getting to, but what I do know is that this offensive line needs major help. I dont have to figure out who's fault was it on a particular sack to know that Wesley Johnson was not an NFL center as well as knowing that if Brian Winters, or any starter for that matter, gets injured we cannot depend on Dakota Dozier or any other player at this point. We need to address the offensive line with more than just two 5th round picks in 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Lith said: There is our punt returner. Trenton Cannon. Virginia State. isn't that what Andre Roberts was signed for? Couldn't he, or stewart, or hansen mcguire or the 11 other WRs provide that? Is this guy really better addition than ST. Brown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Paradis said: isn't that what Andre Roberts was signed for? Couldn't he, or stewart, or hansen mcguire or the 11 other WRs provide that? Is this guy really better addition than ST. Brown? Considering St. Brown is still on the board, I think not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 30 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: I guess it's okay for this front office to continuously draft QB's yet in 4 total drafts this front office has drafted a grand total of 2....TWO Olineman....both 5th round picks. Jarvis Harrison, who isnt even in the NFL and Brandon Shell, a guy who is still and unsure thing. I guess drafting arguably the best QB in the draft and putting him behind this offensive line is okay. You're telling folks to calm the hell down, yet you should be just as concerned when This Front Office has drafted 3 QB's in 4 years yet has invested nothing to protect them. Meanwhile, this Front office has literally invested 100's of millions as well as premium draft picks to the defensive side of the ball, primarily at the secondary and the defensive Line. Petty has been injured by this Oline, McCown has been injured behind this Oline and it was said that Hackenberg has to be coached up given the terrible offensive line and bad coaching at Penn St. Well, WTF do we call what this front office is doing? Telling folks to calm down because they want this team to invest in protecting their most prized asset is ridiculous. Sometimes I wonder if these dudes ever sit through a season of miserable Jets football and ever make the connection that the Jets are bad because the drafts are bad. But alas, every year a select group of fans goes online and screams about how great this Jets draft *actually* is and only the haters don’t see the hidden genius in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Scoop24 said: but hey reach for them just because But there are tons of Mark Gastineaus and Reggie Whites to be had in the late rounds, right? What crap. Who the f___ is Geoff Schwartz anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 Trenton Cannon, Virginia State 5’10, 185 (4.41) 2017 CIAA Offensive Player of the Year 2-time 1st-team All-CIAA selection (2016-17) 1,638 rush yards, 17 TDs 2017 4,030 rush yards, 44 TDs career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Bugg said: But there are tons of Mark Gastineaus and Reggie Whites to be had in the late rounds, right? What crap. Who the f___ is Geoff Schwartz anyway? Former OL for the Panthers and Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Getting Darnold was great. But there's other picks that are hugely important, because that's where you start to build around that franchise QB. And 6th and 7th-string corners and DL are the worst way to try to do that. This draft should have been 90 % offense. I agree that we need to start shifting our focus to the offensive side. Todd Bowles is seriously handicapping our team that we have to literally pick defense to please him. What’s frustrating is it’s not like we’re an unbelievable defensive team. On the other hand, I think we have way more than enough depth on WR. We picked a tight end from Miami. Are you considering we build the offensive line? Cause if so, I do agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Bugg said: But there are tons of Mark Gastineaus and Reggie Whites to be had in the late rounds, right? What crap. Who the f___ is Geoff Schwartz anyway? A former NFL offensive lineman . But I’m sure u know way more then he do when it comes to Olineman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 He would of went undrafted and then you could of signed him. No way he goes in 6 round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Is that the end of our picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Change of pace RB, RS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Is that the end of our picks? Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Warfish said: And what, we're planning to fill that "gaping hole" with what, five guys at once? By the way, what caused that gaping hole, where once was not one but THREE very good D-Linemen in Snacks, Wilk and Sheldon? Hmmm, funny how bad or expendable those three all became.....but hey,. we got 18 new D Linemen, so we're all good. We'll just start DLinemen on the O-line if needed, right? I’m not sure how anyone could’ve predicted Sheldon’s character issues (wasn’t a known problem at Missouri) or that Wilkerson would turn into a fat lazy bitch once he got paid. There were no telltale signs for either. Just because those guys regressed into what they did and we cut bait doesn’t mean that you just completely ignore the position from there on out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Is that the end of our picks? Yes. Thank god. Now 10 posters here can bitch about UDFAs the Jets don’t sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I obviously know nothing about Cannon, but I would have preferred Justin Jackson or Akrum Wadley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Ghost said: I agree that we need to start shifting our focus to the offensive side. Todd Bowles is seriously handicapping our team that we have to literally pick defense to please him. What’s frustrating is it’s not like we’re an unbelievable defensive team. On the other hand, I think we have way more than enough depth on WR. We picked a tight end from Miami. Are you considering we build the offensive line? Cause if so, I do agree. It's crazy how our defense guru head coaches need every pick to be on the defensive side. Todd and Rex are guilty of this nonsense. They should be drafting offense and scheming defensive success! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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