How each Jets rookie Quarterbacks look through their first 5 games

[August]

Mark Sanchez 2009

5 TD’s

5 Int’s

56.6% completion 

916 yards passing

6.8 yards per attempt

76 QBR

 

Geno Smith 2013

7 TD’s

8 Int’s

61.7% completion 

1,289 yards passing

8.5 yards per attempt 

85 QBR

 

Sam Darnold 2018

7 TD’s

6 Int’s

55.5% completion

1,066 yards passing 

7.2 yards per attempt 

77.2 QBR

 

The problem is that our previous rookie quarterbacks all hit a wall a few games later. Can Darnold stay steady throughout the season?

 

 

 

[jgb]

Lack o’dee weaponzz

[Vader]

6 minutes ago, August said:

Mark Sanchez 2009

5 TD’s

5 Int’s

56.6% completion 

916 yards passing

6.8 yards per attempt

76 QBR

 

Geno Smith 2013

7 TD’s

8 Int’s

61.7% completion 

1,289 yards passing

8.5 yards per attempt 

85 QBR

 

Sam Darnold 2018

7 TD’s

6 Int’s

55.5% completion

1,066 yards passing 

7.2 yards per attempt 

77.2 QBR

 

The problem is that our previous rookie quarterbacks all hit a wall a few games later. Can Darnold stay steady throughout the season?

 

 

 

The wall that both Sanchez and Geno hit was the inside of their own skull. Let’s hope Darnold has the brains and decision making skills to make it.

[Gastineau Lives]

I remember when those guys played the 2018 Lions, Dolphins, Browns, Jaguars and Broncos and 3 games in 11 days.

[BroadwayRay]

7 minutes ago, August said:

The problem is that our previous rookie quarterbacks all hit a wall a few games later. Can Darnold stay steady throughout the season?

Sanchez and Smith didn't exactly hit a wall -- they fell off a cliff. Game #6 of Sanchez's rookie year was the rain-swept nightmare at MetLife against the Buffalo Bills in which he threw five interceptions. For many fans, including myself, that was the game that had us doubting he was "the guy." As for Smith, he was flat out horrible for the rest of that season.

[j4jets]

Holy sh*t Geno was killing it. He sure did hit a wall...on a train. 

[Beerfish]

Darnold is a leader not an immature brat and has pocket awareness.  Two key things that the others did not have.  He will get better and if we add a better supporting cast he will take off.

[August]

Just now, BroadwayRay said:

Sanchez and Smith didn't exactly hit a wall -- they fell off a cliff. Game #6 of Sanchez's rookie year was the rain-swept nightmare at MetLife against the Buffalo Bills in which he threw five interceptions. For many fans, including myself, that was the game that had us doubting he was "the guy." As for Smith, he was flat out horrible for the rest of that season.

Smith had a 3/4 game stretch of bad play between the Saints game to the first Dolphins game but after that he ended the year on a solid note, including winning offensive rookie of the week, holding his own against a tough a Carolina defense and knocking out the Dolphins from playoff contention. 

[HelenOfTroy]

Those stats are useless without including the stats and talent level of the team they were surrounded with.  The talent on the Oline?  WRs?  Running backs?

[August]

3 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said:

Those stats are useless without including the stats and talent level of the team they were surrounded with.  The talent on the Oline?  WRs?  Running backs?

Geno had the least amount around him. 

[DMan77]

18 minutes ago, August said:

Mark Sanchez 2009

5 TD’s

5 Int’s

56.6% completion 

916 yards passing

6.8 yards per attempt

76 QBR

 

Geno Smith 2013

7 TD’s

8 Int’s

61.7% completion 

1,289 yards passing

8.5 yards per attempt 

85 QBR

 

Sam Darnold 2018

7 TD’s

6 Int’s

55.5% completion

1,066 yards passing 

7.2 yards per attempt 

77.2 QBR

 

The problem is that our previous rookie quarterbacks all hit a wall a few games later. Can Darnold stay steady throughout the season?

 

 

 

Just for more reference too:

Jets WRs in 2009 (Sanchez)

Jericho Cotchery

Braylon Edwards

 

Jets WR 2013 (Geno)

Jeremy Kerley

Santonio Holmes

 

And also I know it's a point of contention regarding how good or bad the 2018 Jets OL is... But both Geno and Sanchez had D'Brickashaw and Mangold in front of them. There's no doubt in my mind that helped them a lot early on. 

 

 

[UnitedWhofans]

Geno's best game was that MNF game in Atlanta. 

[ChuckkieB]

So far, so good with Darnold.  He just needs to be consistent and learn from his mistakes.  I think the completion percentage is a product of a shaky o-line and receiving corps more than anything else and hopefully all will improve as the year progresses.   He's already light years ahead of Smith and Sanchez as far as poise and maturity is concerned so there's that too. 

[BroadwayRay]

10 minutes ago, August said:

Smith had a 3/4 game stretch of bad play between the Saints game to the first Dolphins game but after that he ended the year on a solid note, including winning offensive rookie of the week, holding his own against a tough a Carolina defense and knocking out the Dolphins from playoff contention. 

That would have been an optimistic view of his season, I guess. But between games #6 AND #16, he had 5 TDs and 13 INTs, and had a five-game streak where he didn't throw any TD passes. 

[jgb]

I think we need to see Sam away from Bowles and with an offensive minded HC.

time has come. Todd has to go.

[UnitedWhofans]

Just now, ChuckkieB said:

So far, so good with Darnold.  He just needs to be consistent and learn from his mistakes.  I think the completion percentage is a product of a shaky o-line and receiving corps more than anything else and hopefully all will improve as the year progresses.   He's already light years ahead of Smith and Sanchez as far as poise and maturity is concerned so there's that too. 

I think completion percentage is important but as yesterday showed, if you can make the key passes like Darnold did it really becomes a hollower stat

[HelenOfTroy]

2 minutes ago, August said:

Geno had the least amount around him. 

Guess I have to see stats to form an opinion on this site, since that is what seems to drive the narrative from the "realists"......too bad football is a game of passion,  intangibles and the ability to play as a team.

Was Geno the guy who was punched by his own teammate?  Those tricky intangibles.

[Matt39]

A low key Geno thread lol. Is he even in the league?

[August]

4 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said:

That would have been an optimistic view of his season, I guess. But between games #6 AND #16, he had 5 TDs and 13 INTs, and had a five-game streak where he didn't throw any TD passes. 

I acknowledge and admit that the middle of his rookie year was crappy. But in his last 4 games he had 4 TD’s, 2 Int’s, 790 yards, 59% completion, 82.7 QBR, 6.9 yards per attempt. Not earth shattering but solid. 

[HelenOfTroy]

2 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

A low key Geno thread lol. Is he even in the league?

#3 on the Chargers

[More Cowbell]

6 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said:

Guess I have to see stats to form an opinion on this site, since that is what seems to drive the narrative from the "realists"......too bad football is a game of passion,  intangibles and the ability to play as a team.

Was Geno the guy who was punched by his own teammate?  Those tricky intangibles.

Yeah,  he was. As long as Sam doesn't  get his jaw broken by a crappy LB or run into his OL rear end and fumble,  Sam should do ok.

[section314]

16 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said:

Geno's best game was that MNF game in Atlanta. 

Absolutely. He was great that night.

[slats]

10 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

A low key Geno thread lol. Is he even in the league?

Philip Rivers' backup. 

[Matt39]

Just now, slats said:

Philip Rivers' backup. 

Ah. Thought they kept Jones.

[Grandy]

Major difference is Sanchez and Smith had a much better support system. They had a Mangold+Ferguson led Oline protecting them.

[kdels62]

1 hour ago, HelenOfTroy said:

Guess I have to see stats to form an opinion on this site, since that is what seems to drive the narrative from the "realists"......too bad football is a game of passion,  intangibles and the ability to play as a team.

Was Geno the guy who was punched by his own teammate?  Those tricky intangibles.

Weaponz 

Sanchez- first 4 games had Jericho Cotchery and Chansi Stuckey, Brad Smith, we acquired Braylon going into week 5, Dustin Keller, Shonn Green and Thomas Jones

Geno - Jeremy Kerley and Santonio Holmes, David Nelson, Gregg Salas, Cumberland, Chris Ivory, pre-Steroid Bilal Powell

Darnold- Anderson, Enunwa, Pryor, Kearse, Crowell, Post-steroid Powell, Herndon, Leggett 

WINNER - Darnold- he has the best weapons thru 4 weeks 

Runner-up - Sanchez - Edwards fixes an awful group of catchers

Loser - Geno - it was no weaponzzzz

O-linez

Sanchez- Brick, Faneca, Mangold, Moore, Woody (I creamed while writing that)

Geno - Brick, Ducasse, Mangold, Colon, Howard (Ducasse is somehow still in this league and he’s starting)

Darnold - Beachum, Carpenter, Long, Winters, Shell

WINNER- Sanchez- A historically great o-line

Runner-up - Darnold- Average o-line without any glaring strengths 

Loser - Geno - it wasn’t awful but Ducasse was

COACHING...z

Sanchez- Rex is offensive poison but Schotty designed a good running game and had spurts of decent performances.

Geno - Rex is still offensive poison and Morningweg was collecting a check even tho the game had passed him by. 

Darnold - Todd Bowles is somehow an offensive improvement over Rex. Bates is a QB guy but clearly rusty from hiking the Appalachian trail.

WINNER- Darnold - no one can really win this but Darnold hasn’t lost yet...

Runner-up- Sanchez - he had a cohesive system to learn from so that’s something...

Loser - Geno - I think Geno is bad but he really had no help...

 

[kdels62]

2 hours ago, Grandy said:

Major difference is Sanchez and Smith had a much better support system. They had a Mangold+Ferguson led Oline protecting them.

Lol true for Sanchez but far from true for Geno.

[nyjunc]

Mark was excellent 4 of his first 5 games, he cost us the NO game but that was his only bad game.  Numbers never tell the whole story and it's the same with Sam.  I'm really happy with how he's played this first month

[TJ]

Sanchez had the number 1 defense and number 1 running game his first season.  What does Sam have? 

[bergenjets]

Geno and Sanchez's completion percentages were the result of accuracy issues. Many (not all) of Darold's incompletes are him throwing the ball away. Undoubtedly he is being coached to the tune of "when in doubt, throw it out". Maybe it's revisionist history on my part, but I remember both Geno and Sanchez missing by miles quite often. Sanchez also got his receivers blown up across the middle with high balls, a lot.

[ScarletKnight89]

Sanchez had a very good team around. I would say Geno actually had the least talent of the 3. Sam doesn't have a great O-Line but he does have weapons on offense.

Hopefully Sam just continues to get better and better. I'm fine with his development so far.

[peekskill68]

8 minutes ago, bergenjets said:

Geno and Sanchez's completion percentages were the result of accuracy issues. Many (not all) of Darold's incompletes are him throwing the ball away. Undoubtedly he is being coached to the tune of "when in doubt, throw it out". Maybe it's revisionist history on my part, but I remember both Geno and Sanchez missing by miles quite often. Sanchez also got his receivers blown up across the middle with high balls, a lot.

I felt the same way watching the game yesterday.  As impressive as the two throws to Anderson were, that out he threw to Kearse on I think a 3rd and 11 was a throw that neither Sanchez or Geno could consistently execute...

[CrazyCarl40]

Not sure why didn’t include Hack’s stats on this post. Seems incomplete. Can the OP be edited to include those stats? Then I can make an informed post about all of them. 

[Villain The Foe]

 

[carlito1171]

4 hours ago, HelenOfTroy said:

Those stats are useless without including the stats and talent level of the team they were surrounded with.  The talent on the Oline?  WRs?  Running backs?

Geno had by far the worse.....avg at best OL......Santonio Holmes was his top target, but Greg Salas and Clyde Gates were his other recievers.....nuff said.

Sanchez had by far the best.....Top 3 OL in the league.....and what would eventually become the #1 rushing attack in the NFL that season.....Braylon Edwards, Jerrico Cotchery and Dustin Keller were his top targets...and he also played behind the #1 defense...