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27 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Oh, which whiney troll who was banned are you?  Just curious how you know so much about people so soon.  BigO?  Same style

I realize when someone asks what's wrong with a different opinion it gets insecure people like you claiming it's a rant.  But it's actually not.  

Copy and paste what you're thinking is a rant.  Should be interesting given all the ranting, trolling, everyone sucks period posts you've given us since your rebranding.  

You need to put yourself on ignore and do the world a favor.

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Just now, LES said:

You need to put yourself on ignore and do the world a favor.

The rant, don't see it.  

Got an idea, instead of putting myself on ignore, you can just put me on ignore.  Help stop me from "ranting".  Lol

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4 hours ago, LES said:

Didn’t CJ say all things will go thru him? There wasn’t a peep about Macc having any say so in it. 

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“At the onset of the interview process, I wanted to hire a head coach who was the right person and the right fit for our organization,” Jets CEO Christopher Johnson told the team's website. “We talked to a number of excellent candidates and it became clear to me that Adam was the person who will help us establish a winning program and a winning culture.”

Even as a neophyte hopefully Chris Johnson lucks into some great decisions.  Thanks for posting this, didn’t know that.

I’m also starting to think that maybe it’s best to keep Maccagnan, forever, for the sole purpose of fading him, according to this post they might even be phasing him out somewhat.  Guy is so bad you just ask him his opinion and then do the opposite.  Jets will be going to the Super Bowl every year.

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You guys dissing Macc for being blind to talent should be ashamed of yourselves.  #MurderersRow  :chas:

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5 minutes ago, peekskill68 said:

You guys dissing Macc for being blind to talent should be ashamed of yourselves.  #MurderersRow  :chas:

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That’s hilarious haha. I’d actually watch this for the comedy. 

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On 1/29/2019 at 9:14 AM, joewilly12 said:

The NY Jets under HC Todd Bowles were never prepared for a game there were never adjustments this team was bad he was bad. There is no excuse for anything Todd Bowles did and didn't do here. We were the laughing stock of the NFL and regressed every year he was the HC. 

Sounds a lot like the Miami Dolphins under Gase.

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On 1/30/2019 at 8:02 PM, peekskill68 said:

You guys dissing Macc for being blind to talent should be ashamed of yourselves.  #MurderersRow  :chas:

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@The Crusher is gonna be pretty excited about this.

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Just now, FidelioJet said:

Sounds a lot like the Miami Dolphins under Gase.

The Dolphins seemed very competitive week in and week out and pretty much manhandled the NY Jets the last few seasons. 

I have hope for Gase. 

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1 minute ago, Creepy Lurker said:

Haha! I do feel dirty after joking about being a Mac supporter earlier. Thanks 

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4 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

@The Crusher is gonna be pretty excited about this.

Look forward to seeing him play until he gets hurt again . 

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Just gonna put this here, courtesy of @Sarge4Tide:

 

Updated Roster 2/4/19

Offense   

Quarterback  

  •     14 - Sam Darnold 6'3" 221  USC
  •     15 - Josh McCown 6'4" 218 Sam Houston State   (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •       5 - Davis Webb 6'5" 225 Cal   (Exclusive Rights FA)

Running Back  

  •     20 - Isaiah Crowell 5'11" 225 Alabama State  (RB)  (2018 Injured Reserve)
  •     25 - Elijah McGuire 5'10" 214 LA-Lafayette  
  •     40 - Trenton Cannon 5'11" 185  Virginia State  
  •     35 - Deangelo Henderson 5'7" 208 Coastal Carolina (RB) (Exclusive Rights FA)
  •     29 - Bilal Powell 5'11" 207 Louisville (RB) (2018 Injured Reserve)   (UNRESTRICTED FA)

Tight End   

  •     89 - Chris Herndon 6'4" 253 Miami  
  •     83 - Eric Tomlinson 6'6" 263 UTEP      (RESTRICTED FA)
  •     86 - Jordan Leggett 6'5" 258 Clemson  
  •     85 - Neal Sterling  6'3" 257 Monmouth  (TE) (2018 Injured Reserve)   (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     87 – Clive Walford 6'4" 250 Miami   (UNRESTRICTED FA)

 Wide Receiver 

  •     81 - Quincy Enunwa 6'2" 225 Nebraska   (2018 Injured Reserve)
  •     11 - Robby Anderson 6'3" 190 Temple (RESTRICTED FA)
  •     10 - Jermaine Kearse 6'1" 205 Washington    (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     19 - Andre Roberts 5'11" 195 Marshall  (KR)   (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     17 - Charone Peake 6'3" 205 Clemson
  •     84 - Deontay Burnett 6'0" 180 USC (Exclusive Rights FA)
  •     84 - JJ Jones   5'10" 173 West Georgia (WR)
  •     82 - Rishard Matthews 6'0" 217 Nevada  (WR) (2018 Injured Reserve)   (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     xx – Stacy Coley 6’0” 195 Miami (FL) (WR) (Reserve/Future Contract)
  •     16 - DeAngelo Yancey 6'1" 220 Purdue (WR) (Reserve/Future Contract)

Offensive Line 

  •     68 - Kelvin Beachum 6"3" 303  SMU (T)  
  •     72 - Brandon Shell 6'5" 325 South Carolina (2018 Injured Reserve)
  •     67 - Brian Winters 6'4" 320 Kent State (G)  
  •     61 - Spencer Long 6'5" 318 Nebraska  (C/G)  
  •     79 - Brent Qvale 6'7 315 Nebraska (G/T)    (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     78 - Jonotthan Harrison 6"4" 300 Florida (C/G)    (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     70 - Dakota Dozier 6'4" 313 Furman (C/G/T)    (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •      69 - Benjamin Braden 6'6" 335 Michigan (G/T)  (Exclusive Rights FA)
  •      65 - Eric Smith 6'4" 308 Virginia (T)
  •     71 - Ben Ijalana 6'4" 322 Villanova (T/G)  (2018 Injured Reserve)   (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     77 - James Carpenter 6'5 321 Alabama (G) (2018 Injured Reserve)   (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     76 - Dieugot Joseph 6'6" 300 FIU (OT) (Reserve/Future Contract)
  •      64 - Jon Toth   6'5" 310 Kentucky (C) (Reserve/Future Contract)

Defense 

Defensive Line 

  •     92 - Leonard Williams 6'5 300 USC (DE/DT)
  •     99 - Steve McLendon 6'3" 310 Troy (DT)   (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     96 - Henry Anderson 6'6" 300  Stanford (DE)   (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     98 - Mike Pennel 6'4" 332 CSU-Pueblo  (DT)
  •     97 - Nathan Shepherd 6'4" 315  Ft. Hays State (DE/DT) 
  •     94 - Foley Fatukasi 6'4" 318 UCONN (DE/DT)   
  •    75 - Destiny Vaeao 6'4" 299 Washington State (DL)  (RESTRICTED FA)
  •     xx – Charles Tapper 6’3” 270 Oklahoma (DE) (Reserve/Future Contract)

Linebacker 

  •     48 - Jordan Jenkins 6'3" 259 Georgia (OLB)
  •     54 - Avery Williamson 6'1" 246 Kentucky (ILB)   
  •     58 - Darron Lee 6'1" 235 Ohio State   (ILB)
  •     51 - Brandon Copeland 6'3" 263 Penn (OLB)    (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     46 - Neville Hewitt 6'2" 234 Marshall (ILB)   (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     56 - Kevin Pierre-Lewis 6'1" 225 Boston College (ILB)  (2018 Injured Reserve)
  •     50 - Frankie Luvu 6'3" 235 Washington State (OLB) (Exclusive Rights FA)
  •     93 - Tarell Basham 6'4" 266 Ohio (OLB) (DE?)
  •     57 – Emmanuel Lamur 64" 245 Kansas State   (LB)  (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     91 - Bronson Kaufusi 6'6" 275 BYU (OLB/DE)   (RESTRICTED FA)
  •     52 - Anthony Wint 6'0" 224 FIU (ILB)   (Exclusive Rights FA)
  •     95 - Josh Martin 6'3" 245 Columbia (OLB)  (2018 Injured Reserve)   (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     55 - Jeremiah Attaochu 6'3" 252 Georgia Tech (OLB)  (2018 Injured Reserve)   (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     44 - Harvey Langi 6'2" 250 BYU (ILB)  (INJURED/PUP

Cornerback 

  •     22 - Trumaine Johnson 6'1" 205 Montana   
  •     41 - Buster Skrine 5'9" 185 Tennessee-Chattanooga   (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     27 - Darryl Roberts 6'0" 182 Marshall (S?)  (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     43 - Parry Nickerson 5'10"182 Tulane  
  •     30 - Rashard Robinson 6'2" 177 LSU  
  •     31 - Derrick Jones 6'2" 188 Mississippi    
  •     34 - Jeremy Clark 6'3" 220 Michigan (CB) (Exclusive Rights FA)  
  •     21 - Morris Claiborne 5'11"  192 LSU   (2018 Injured Reserve)   (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     xx – Arthur Maulet 5’10” 190 Memphis (CB) (Reserve/Future Contract)

Safety  

  •     33 - Jamal Adams 6'0" 214 LSU 
  •     23 - Terrence Brooks 5'11" 200 Florida State   
  •     45 - Rontez Miles 6'1" 210 California (PA)     (UNRESTRICTED FA)
  •     38 - Brandon Bryant 6'0" 215 Mississippi State (S)  
  •     36 - Doug Middleton 6'0" 210 Appalachian State  (S)  (2018 Injured Reserve)  (RESTRICTED FA)
  •     26 - Marcus Maye 6'0" 210 Florida  (S) (2018 Injured Reserve)
  •     xx – Tevaughn Campbell 6’0” 195 Regina (DB) (Reserve/Future Contract)

Special Teams 

Punter  

  •     4 - Lachlan Edwards 6'4" 215 Sam Houston State

Kicker 

  •     2 - Jason Myers 5'10" 190 Marist  (UNRESTRICTED FA)

Long Snapper 

  •     42 - Thomas Hennessy 6'2" 246 Duke

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33 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Friendly reminder that the man tasked with yet another rebuild spend a boatload of money in 2015. He signed 18 free agents and traded for several others. As of now, none of this players remain on the team just 4 years later. That is some bottom level general managing. That’s just free agency. Never mind his drafting, which as a scout, should have been an asset. How does anyone with a straight face think this is the guy to lead the team?

That's what I ask myself everytime i think about how he's still the GM of this football team.

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Honestly, I can't remember thinking even when Kotite was here that the Jets had a worse roster. This roster right now is pretty much devoid of talent thanks to our GM.

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2 hours ago, NYJ1 said:

Honestly, I can't remember thinking even when Kotite was here that the Jets had a worse roster. This roster right now is pretty much devoid of talent thanks to our GM.

Right now this roster is devoid of players.  It is like judging Christmas in October.  Wait until after the free agents are signed, the draft is selected, the roster is filled out and the OTA's are started before making a judgement.  If you still feel this way in August, then it'll be time for the hand wringing and hair pulling, not now.

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2 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Yes. Because the last four years of bottom talent rosters tell us nothing about year five!

So in your estimation:  New Head Coach, New Defensive Coordinator, virtually all new assistant and positional coaches, means "business as usual"?  I know, it's all about Maccagnan, right? 

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So in your estimation:  New Head Coach, New Defensive Coordinator, virtually all new assistant and positional coaches, means "business as usual"?  I know, it's all about Maccagnan, right? 


He was the one picking the players the last 4 years, so yes. Macc is the primary reason our roster is devoid of talent. Nicely done.

Thanks for setting the agenda on the offseason too. No complaining about Macc until his 5th offseason is complete. Got it.
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25 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 


He was the one picking the players the last 4 years, so yes. Macc is the primary reason our roster is devoid of talent. Nicely done.

Thanks for setting the agenda on the offseason too. No complaining about Macc until his 5th offseason is complete. Got it.

 

I know how you feel about the GM.  You've made that clear.  Truth is, neither you nor I know what effect that Bowles and Co. had on the acquisitions and draft picks of the last four years. I know you don't want to hear it, but it's the truth, like it or not.  The dynamic is now different.  Time will tell.  The complaining will not stop, witness this never ending thread.  You see, I too, get it.

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6 hours ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

So in your estimation:  New Head Coach, New Defensive Coordinator, virtually all new assistant and positional coaches, means "business as usual"?  I know, it's all about Maccagnan, right? 

If you buy all the ingredients for meatloaf, you’re not getting your chef to make you filet mignon. 

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53 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

If you buy all the ingredients for meatloaf, you’re not getting your chef to make you filet mignon. 

 

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5 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

I know how you feel about the GM.  You've made that clear.  Truth is, neither you nor I know what effect that Bowles and Co. had on the acquisitions and draft picks of the last four years. I know you don't want to hear it, but it's the truth, like it or not.  The dynamic is now different.  Time will tell.  The complaining will not stop, witness this never ending thread.  You see, I too, get it.

The Chef doesn't have to buy the same ingredients if  the menu is changed..

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NFL insider paints bleak picture for Jets with Mike Maccagan as GM

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Eight NFL teams will head into 2019 with new head coaches. That includes the New York Jets, who fired Todd Bowles and replaced him with former Miami Dolphins head coach Adam Gase.

Both Bowles and general manager Mike Maccagnan were hired by the Jets in 2015. Yet it was Bowles, and Bowles alone, who paid the price for the team winning just 14 games over the last three seasons.

 

 

The Athletic’s Michael Lombardi explains why the Jets appear doomed to struggle until they are willing to fire Maccagnan.

Maccaganan, along with his trusted Assistant General Manager Brian Heimerdinger, have been building this team for four years and based on their construction work, the Jets’ roster still needs a considerable makeover, one that I am sure even Chip and Joanna Gaines would feel reluctant to attempt. I feel bad for new coach Adam Gase, as he will inherit a good, young quarterback in Sam Darnold but little else. No left tackle, no skill players and no running back. Wait until new defensive coordinator Gregg Williams looks over his defensive personnel and realizes the winless Browns in 2017 had more talent. 

In fairness, the Jets have a huge bankroll to spend on free agency as they did last year, but based on their record of evaluating over the past four years, there can’t be much optimism coming from Florham Park. Success is not going to be as simple as just developing Darnold, and as is, it looks like the Jets’ future is more about Maccagnan and Heimerdinger than it is about Gase.

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7 hours ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

I know how you feel about the GM.  You've made that clear.  Truth is, neither you nor I know what effect that Bowles and Co. had on the acquisitions and draft picks of the last four years. I know you don't want to hear it, but it's the truth, like it or not.  The dynamic is now different.  Time will tell.  The complaining will not stop, witness this never ending thread.  You see, I too, get it.

If Bowles had a major say in who the picks were, that still is a very poor look for Macc.  Like 85 % of the GM's job is utilizing his scouting department to evaluate college talent.  A HC generally doesn't have time to look at much college tape.  A GM who defers to his HC, especially a first-time HC who got his job the same week that Macc did, is a weak-minded GM who cannot be trusted to run a franchise. 

If Adam Gase is what it takes for Macc to finally pick good players, my point still stands.  In fact, its strengthened.

There's a reason this thread is never-ending.  And its not because we're wrong.  We want nothing more than Macc to finally pick some good players.  This is an incredibly important offseason and draft.  We have an awful lot of draft capital merely by holding the # 3 pick.  We can't get it wrong.  Macc blind-squirreled his way into Darnold.  Now he needs to actually make smart decisions that require more than just a whole lot of luck. 

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3 hours ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

 

The Chef doesn't have to buy the same ingredients if  the menu is changed..

The Chef isn’t buying the ingredients. The general manager is. And the place is so poorly run not even Gordon Ramsay could fix it. There are cockroaches everywhere! And some of the food is rotting. 

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18 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

The Chef isn’t buying the ingredients. The general manager is. And the place is so poorly run not even Gordon Ramsay could fix it. There are cockroaches everywhere! And some of the food is rotting. 

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2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

There's a reason this thread is never-ending.  And its not because we're wrong.  We want nothing more than Macc to finally pick some good players.  This is an incredibly important offseason and draft.  We have an awful lot of draft capital merely by holding the # 3 pick.  We can't get it wrong.  Macc blind-squirreled his way into Darnold.  Now he needs to actually make smart decisions that require more than just a whole lot of luck

If this is the case, then what exactly is the point here.  This horse had already been beaten to death a very long time ago.  No one here is apologizing  for Macc's poor drafting and signings of the past.  What your "side" fails  to recognize or acknowledge, is the contributions and responsibility both Bowles [both coaching and influence} and the Management Structure, had in those poor decisions. The incessant railing against Maccagnan will not change the status quo.  He is here, for better or worse, we just have to make the best of it.

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1 hour ago, joenamathwouldn'tcry said:

If this is the case, then what exactly is the point here.  This horse had already been beaten to death a very long time ago.  No one here is apologizing  for Macc's poor drafting and signings of the past.  What your "side" fails  to recognize or acknowledge, is the contributions and responsibility both Bowles [both coaching and influence} and the Management Structure, had in those poor decisions. The incessant railing against Maccagnan will not change the status quo.  He is here, for better or worse, we just have to make the best of it.

Because we want him fired.  Just because he wasn't fired this past offseason doesn't mean that goal has changed.  Until he does something proving he's worthy of holding one of the 32 most important jobs in the NFL, we'll keep railing incessantly.

Ignore the thread if you don't like it. 

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He should have been shown the door with Bowles.  This guy is a failure whose drafts have had some of the worst overall player retention wise for all of pro sports in North America.  Hackenberg, AirDarius, Hansen, Nathan Shepard (small college reach in 3rd but still on the team), Devin Smith, Petty and Mauldin, all failures in the NFL and picked in the rounds 2-4.  Not a good track record so far and Mac still has the keys.  Great that he now can spend on Free Agents.  Not happy I contribute $10K a year to that fund..... 

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1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Because we want him fired.  Just because he wasn't fired this past offseason doesn't mean that goal has changed.  Until he does something proving he's worthy of holding one of the 32 most important jobs in the NFL, we'll keep railing incessantly.

Ignore the thread if you don't like it. 

I generally do ignore this thread.  Don't make this personal.  You and I have generally a symbiotic view on things. I'd like to keep it that way.  Do you really think threads like this will expedite Maccagnan's departure from the Jets?  If so, go ahead, knock yourself out.

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3 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

I want this board to be so wrong about Macc. I'd rather be optimistic and look forward to the start of the 2019 offseason than hope that Macc fails.

Prove us wrong, Macc. 

He's got a lot of making up to do to undo what he has done here in the past 4 years.......did you happen to watch the AAF football league I think Macc and the NY Jets lead the league in  most players. 

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