jetstream23 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Sound familiar? Quote Dolphins considering rebuild, eye heralded QBs in 2020 draft class Even before they hire Patriots linebackers coach Brian Flores as their next head coach, the Dolphins already are thinking about rebuilding and trying to land one of the trumpeted quarterbacks from the class of 2020, which includes Alabama's Tua Tagovailoa and Oregon's Justin Herbert, league sources told ESPN. The Dolphins know they have to focus on player development and building the trenches next season, putting the franchise on track to select one of the promising quarterbacks from the 2020 draft and rebuild over time, according to league sources. It is difficult to tank in the NFL with players' contracts not being guaranteed. But the Dolphins recognize that losing likely will be a part of next season, and it will take some time to build the roster to where they want it to be, according to sources. Dolphins owner Stephen Ross acknowledged as much when he discussed the team's future after former head coach Adam Gase was fired on Dec. 31. Flores is expected to be a part of the growth process for the Dolphins, who went 7-9 under Gase this season and own the 13th pick in this year's draft. The Dolphins already are eyeing a top-10 pick in the 2020 draft, according to people familiar with the team's thinking. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25749961/miami-dolphins-considering-rebuild-eye-heralded-qbs-2020-draft-class Miami will be all over defensive and offensive linemen in this upcoming Draft and hoping to score a QB in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 They just better not draft Jake Fromm. I will be so pissed if they get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 good thing that the right year to tank is for the 2021 draft and trevor lawrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Exactly what Macagnan initially tried to do but idiotically signed Josh Mccown. If he just jet Hackenberg and Petty battle it out for the starting job Jets would have had an extra three 2nd round picks. He got lucky to be able to trade up but that wasn't a guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Exactly what Macagnan initially tried to do but idiotically signed Josh Mccown. If he just jet Hackenberg and Petty battle it out for the starting job Jets would have had an extra three 2nd round picks. He got lucky to be able to trade up but that wasn't a guarantee.1) I don't believe mccagan intended to tank any year. 2) how many teams has McCown secured a top 5 pick for in the past? He is a pretty safe bet when it comes to tanking.Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 good for them. I admire someone just openly tanking and getting it over with...no ******* bullsh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, neckdemon said: good thing that the right year to tank is for the 2021 draft and trevor lawrence Thanks I was trying to do the math ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 The Jets will find a way to lose to Miami and F up all their plans. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Yeah; now you know why they got rid of Gase (not claiming he is great), but he wanted to play to win. This is a pretty stupid plan. First that means they have to loose all of their games next year; that will be a long year. Also, if they are too obvious, the league may step in (doubt it though). Then they have a sh*tty team with a rookie QB - they better hope they pick correctly. Also, what if the guy they are tanking for doesn't play well, or doesn't declare. Also, you don't know what the new contract will look like and if there is going to be a work stoppage. There is a lot of gambling and 2 to 3 crappy years. Fans here called for a tank; then were upset that we didn't tank well enough; then got frustrated that after landing their QB after all, the team didn't win the SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, bealeb319 said: 1) I don't believe mccagan intended to tank any year. 2) how many teams has McCown secured a top 5 pick for in the past? He is a pretty safe bet when it comes to tanking. Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Ha well if we had petty play all yr, we pick 1 or 2, get darnold and still have 3 very good 2nd round picks. If Mac was a decent gm I’d be more pissed, but we all know he would have wasted 2 of those 3 picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 They wont be the only ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: They just better not draft Jake Fromm. I will be so pissed if they get him. Nothing any of us can do really. I mean we got a young franchise QB right now. I will say this though tanking can be a hit or miss. Browns tanked for years and it wasnt until this year that they potentially found their QB, same with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jets723 said: Nothing any of us can do really. I mean we got a young franchise QB right now. I will say this though tanking can be a hit or miss. Browns tanked for years and it wasnt until this year that they potentially found their QB, same with us. It’s not that they’ll find a franchise QB. I don’t want them getting a QB from Georgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: It’s not that they’ll find a franchise QB. I don’t want them getting a QB from Georgia. Oh ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, neckdemon said: good thing that the right year to tank is for the 2021 draft and trevor lawrence Hell end up in NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, bealeb319 said: 1) I don't believe mccagan intended to tank any year. 2) how many teams has McCown secured a top 5 pick for in the past? He is a pretty safe bet when it comes to tanking. Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Nonsense. It’s besides the point anyways. Macc drafted Hack and Petty with both in the wings needing to play. If they both bombed, you move on. Both should have played intermittently. But playing them would have disclosed what a clueless GM Macc was. Macc signed McClown because he knew playing Hack OR Petty would have been GM suicide. It was a face saving move that just compounded the mistake of drafting Wackenberg in the first place. There was absolutely no need to sign McClown who, in essence, ‘won’ 5 meaningless games costing Macc to trade up those 3 2nd rounders. Ironically, signing McClown probably saved Macc’s job even though it was a highly inconceivable move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 No team tanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Quote But the Dolphins recognize that losing likely will be a part of next season, and it will take some time to build the roster to where they want it to be, according to sources. Dolphins owner Stephen Ross acknowledged as much when he discussed the team's future after former head coach Adam Gase was fired on Dec. 31. And there is still a lot of gnashing about the Gase hire based on his recent record in Miami. Even the owner admits they have a talent deficit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Jetsbb said: Exactly what Macagnan initially tried to do but idiotically signed Josh Mccown. If he just jet Hackenberg and Petty battle it out for the starting job Jets would have had an extra three 2nd round picks. He got lucky to be able to trade up but that wasn't a guarantee. And lost 3 second round picks in the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Jetsbb said: Exactly what Macagnan initially tried to do but idiotically signed Josh Mccown. If he just jet Hackenberg and Petty battle it out for the starting job Jets would have had an extra three 2nd round picks. He got lucky to be able to trade up but that wasn't a guarantee. I’m thinking that Bowles might have forced Maccagnan’s hand into bringing McCown on board. It’s known that Bowles was totally against the Hackenberg pick, rare good for him, and he refused to play Hackenberg 1 single solitary down. Petty already had shown the odds were great he couldn’t play at the pro level, so now Maccagnan probably was looking at a mutiny...2 QBs neither of whom Bowles would play. Such a horrific pick Hackenberg, not only did it segue into the try at face saving team wise with bringing in McCown to win 5 meaningless games. But Maccagnan didn’t want to own up to it being another busted pick of his so he wouldn’t draft Mahomes or Watson. That Leonard Williams is one lucky dude that Maccagnan still miraculously has the GM job...watch him get some sick dollars because Maccagnan won’t own his pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 minute ago, HessStation said: And lost 3 second round picks in the process I keep saying it. Imagine if Maccagnan didn’t luck into Darnold with the Giants grabbing him at 2? Imagine blowing 3 #2’s on Josh Rosen haha...was very very possibly reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Sound familiar? http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25749961/miami-dolphins-considering-rebuild-eye-heralded-qbs-2020-draft-class Miami will be all over defensive and offensive linemen in this upcoming Draft and hoping to score a QB in 2020. And I care......why? They want to tank, let them tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Smart move by Miami. Tua and Fromm next year. Lawrence the year after. People act like it’s a federal crime to tank. Not sure why. Sure players don’t tank. But ownership and GMs can. Trade ur better players. Worry more about amassing draft picks then bringing in players (I.e save/roll over cap space), put some $hit head in at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Tua, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, Warfish said: And I care......why? They want to tank, let them tank. Well, you could have not clicked on the thread and avoided coming in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinGreenNC Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Hell end up in NE. That’s what I’m thinkingSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Can Dwayne Wade play qb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 All I got from this is that we’ll be 2-12 or better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 All I get from this is two more easy victories for the Pats to return to the playoffs next season. But this is smart of them as the Bills have Allen, Jets with Darnold. Time for them to think long term. I still question why they would release this to the media and this early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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