Popular Post Y3k Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 Two years in a row the team and OL does a 180 when this guy comes in. Could be a coincidence, but all of the OL problems began when Kalil became the starter. All off season I heard about how great Harrison looked, how much work he puts in, how well he knew the protections and offense. His teammates always speak glowingly about him, I recall specifically Osemele saying in an interview shortly after signing how impressed he was with Harrison- he said Harrison stood out as the best guy on that line... Honestly, we came into the season with a concern at center but I actually think all the other OL spots are weaker... 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Harrison deserves a lot of credit. Let’s be honest many people were still down on him even after playing pretty well last year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post varjet Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 The Harrison situation is a bad sign for how the Jets have been managed. We think Douglas and Gase have their act together, but then we she how they handled this. He is under contract next year, thankfully. A relatively bargain contract. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, varjet said: The Harrison situation is a bad sign for how the Jets have been managed. We think Douglas and Gase have their act together, but then we she how they handled this. He is under contract next year, thankfully. A relatively bargain contract. To be fair Douglas came in after the offseason so he didn’t have any chance to really work. Yes the Kalil signing stunk but I can’t really blame Douglas for giving it a shot. He is gonna get his chance to prove his worth in FA and the draft 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 He can be our Jonathan Goodwin. Sign Scherff, draft a LT & another Guard, WR, CB, and Yannick in free agency....win. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 14 in Green Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 You might be on to something here with Harrison. You’re right, the line seems to play better when he’s in there. Sometimes a guy comes in plays well, but for whatever reason a coach doesn’t believe in him. Gase thought he needed a player like Kalil, heck we all thought we needed an upgrade. Then after giving him all that money, probably felt he had to stick with him. Jonathan seems a much better player though. It reminds me of the Mets before last season. Jeff McNeil was coming off a surprising year in ‘18, yet the Mets GM didn’t believe in him, and was willing to include him in the Cano trade to replace him at second base. The Mets got lucky, Seattle asked for someone else, and McNeil battled all year for a batting title while playing excellent defense at a few different positions. Sometimes the answer is right there under your nose, yet you don’t see it.... 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 Harrison is awesome and is the long term answer at center. Gase not realizing this probably cost us the season. Total incompetance on gase and douglas’ part. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Harrison is awesome and is the long term answer at center. Gase not realizing this probably cost us the season. Total incompetance on gase and douglas’ part. Frank Pollack had no say? He is the Oline coach & if your going to tell me the Oline coach has no communication with the Head Coach about each & every players abilities than what exactly is he here for since he's working with this group 24/7 & reviewing practice film & game film constantly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Should have been our starting center since day 1 the bashing this guy took was asinine 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Harrison is awesome and is the long term answer at center. Gase not realizing this probably cost us the season. Total incompetance on gase and douglas’ part. At about 1/6 the cost of Mitch Morse who is out again with an injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 awesome? no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Harrison is awesome and is the long term answer at center. Gase not realizing this probably cost us the season. Total incompetance on gase and douglas’ part. It’s not just him , it’s Lewis and Compton. The interior of the line is a massive upgrade from kelechi osemele, Ryan Kalil, and Brian Winters. Darnold has time to thow the ball. Honestly in my near 40 year fandom, I’d never seen such poor oline play. It’s like with Roberts and Johnson out, Bless Austin and Arthur Maulet are miles better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Losmeister said: awesome? no. How about decent to good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Sign a vet starting OG and draft a OT and a OG, add some depth and the oline and Harrison will be fine. Obviously easier said then done but that should be the priority. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RonaldJet Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 The best thing that has happened to Jonathan Harrison is Spencer Long and Ryan Kalil. He’s a quality backup who won’t get your QB killed, but he also offers nothing in the running game. There is a reason why Gase and Douglas wanted to upgrade. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CanadaSteve Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Harrison is awesome and is the long term answer at center. Gase not realizing this probably cost us the season. Total incompetance on gase and douglas’ part. Yeah, Douglas is COMPLETELY incompetent because he didn't recognize the second string center from last year who he just met, wasn't a starter. Some of you guys just won't quit, will you? 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 His 56 pff is better than kalils 46 but he is not awesome 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Pff is very questionable Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, Larz said: His 56 pff is better than kalils 46 but he is not awesome You don’t need an all pro like Mawae or Mangold. Just someone competent 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: Yeah, Douglas is COMPLETELY incompetent because he didn't recognize the second string center from last year who he just met, wasn't a starter. Some of you guys just won't quit, will you? They learn it from our politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Harrison is a good player. Awesome? No. But certainly good enough to not have to go pull a dude out of retirement, pay him 10 mil and suck balls so bad he probably cost you the season. There is also something to be said about the QB/C relationship. Sam trusts Harrison, it's pretty obvious. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 57 minutes ago, Philc1 said: How about decent to good A steadying influence for some reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 32 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: Pff is very questionable Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app It’s not perfect for sure but this is the second coaching staff that deemed him a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Harrison is a competent player who has good chemistry with Darnold. That has made him an upgrade over Long and Kalil the past two years. Beachum can be included in that competent category also, since he's come back the line has stabilized. I wouldn't be shocked if both are back next year as "stop gap starters" as the team waits for the rookie LT & C they draft to take over 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 The answer to the OP question is no. He's below average and the Jets will hopefully draft a starting C in rounds 1-3 of the upcoming draft, after a LT is selected. Have a happy Thanksgiving! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, varjet said: The Harrison situation is a bad sign for how the Jets have been managed. We think Douglas and Gase have their act together, but then we she how they handled this. He is under contract next year, thankfully. A relatively bargain contract. Good observation. I see the logic in bringing in competition but not seeing how much better Harrison is/was is a little worrisome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Guard and LT in the draft, especially if Harrison continues good play. Beachum getting up there Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I don’t think he’s great, but he looks like a decent starting center. Just a week or two ago I was all for investing a Top 40 pick on the position. Now I don’t see much point. Take one in the 3rd or 4th to develop/provide competition, sure. But both guard and tackle spots should be a higher priority. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I don't know if he's "awesome" but he's respectable and clearly better than Kalil. Signing and starting Kalil is one of the bigger whiffs of this administration. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSJF Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, RonaldJet said: The best thing that has happened to Jonathan Harrison is Spencer Long and Ryan Kalil. He’s a quality backup who won’t get your QB killed, but he also offers nothing in the running game. There is a reason why Gase and Douglas wanted to upgrade. Hasn’t the running game improved since Khalil and Winters are gone....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightBoyz Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Harrison should have started from the beginning. Looked solid at the end of last year. I understand why they went the Kalil route but it ended up being a huge mistake. Good thing is will see him play the rest of season so we might have our future Center. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, LSJF said: Hasn’t the running game improved since Khalil and Winters are gone....? Yes, but going from 2yd losses on practically every run play to 2yd gains still leaves a lot of room for improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 He's solid, but mostly has just been the best of a bad bunch. He's certainly far from the Jets' biggest issue along the OL, so they could get away with not prioritizing it quite as much as other positions, but should also not consider him to be enough for center to be off the list of needs if an opportunity does present itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: He's solid, but mostly has just been the best of a bad bunch. He's certainly far from the Jets' biggest issue along the OL, so they could get away with not prioritizing it quite as much as other positions, but should also not consider him to be enough for center to be off the list of needs if an opportunity does present itself. Was gonna post something similar to this. We aren't talking Mawae/Mangold here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 More importantly, Darnold seems to have a good working relationship with him. Still, I have visions of Creed Humphrey dancing in my head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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