bitonti Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, Y3k said: What is your motivation for spreading negative false naratives? I look out the window the sky is blue. Or maybe it's gray because of smoke from a wildfire the news is just the news. just because I don't like wildfires doesn't make reporting the sky is gray a "false negative narrative" or whatever as for Darnold his arm is fine and might actually be good if he stepped into these throws the pick he had against Milano there wasn't another human within 10 yards in any direction and he was spinning around like a dancer as he threw it Sam has a strong arm in that he plays in the NFL despite never learning how to set his feet it's not like a big brag tho and AGAIN he's got fine or OK arm strength, Stafford has special arm strength and always has had that gift I'm starting to wonder what Darnold's gifts are, exactly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: I have been a big Darnold supporter and I still am. I believe he will be a FQB for this team but I have been thinking, we might be looking at a Matt Stafford situation where we have a very talented QB that just doesn't have what it takes to pull the team up. Now Stafford did ave Megatron and now has Gallowday and Sam has not had anyone that approaches the talent level so it is difficult to make a fair comparison but I was wondering what the rest of you think. Are we in a position like Detroit where we have a QB that should be able to lead this team higher but just doesn't. Based on what we've seen to-date, we wish Darnold was Matt Stafford. He's not even close so far. But good seeing the usual folks trot out the "just need weapons, and time" argument we always hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 51 minutes ago, bitonti said: Mark Sanchez leads this franchise in playoff wins as a QB Rex Ryan leads this franchise in playoff wins as a HC it's not the greatest stat to use in casual conversation If Stafford is considered a star he should have more than 0 total career playoff wins after 12 years in the league And he only had a top 3 all time WR to throw to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 55 minutes ago, bitonti said: Matt Stafford btw has the type of natural arm strength that he can throw a football through a piece of plywood darnold's arm is OK but they are not in the same neighborhood in terms of velocity Stafford is closer to Favre or Allen he's got a rare arm could have made millions as a pitcher in MLB probably Jeff George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Jeff George Josh Allen threw 62 mph at the Combine. people are going to talk about that dude the way oldies like us talk about Jeff George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, bitonti said: Josh Allen threw 62 mph at the Combine. people are going to talk about that dude the way oldies like us talk about Jeff George Don Majkowkski’s younger brother was my roommate in grad school back when they both played with Indy. Don use to tell us some crazy takes of how hard and far that guy could throw a football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Young Jetty said: We could only wish Darnold becomes Matthew Stafford. Right now he looks more like Matthew Leinart. This. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I'm praying for Gardner Minshew 2.0 at this point 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Mark Sanchez leads this franchise in playoff wins as a QB Rex Ryan leads this franchise in playoff wins as a HC it's not the greatest stat to use in casual conversation It at least shows the team had a shot. Detroit with Stafford has had no shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerichoholic Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Tanehill 2.0Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Looking like Sam Bradford 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, bitonti said: I look out the window the sky is blue. Or maybe it's gray because of smoke from a wildfire the news is just the news. just because I don't like wildfires doesn't make reporting the sky is gray a "false negative narrative" or whatever as for Darnold his arm is fine and might actually be good if he stepped into these throws the pick he had against Milano there wasn't another human within 10 yards in any direction and he was spinning around like a dancer as he threw it Sam has a strong arm in that he plays in the NFL despite never learning how to set his feet it's not like a big brag tho and AGAIN he's got fine or OK arm strength, Stafford has special arm strength and always has had that gift I'm starting to wonder what Darnold's gifts are, exactly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Darnold looks like he is becoming another Mark Sanchez. Lost and no clue of what to change and when to change it. Plus, he has a HC who is even MORE lost than his QB. Stafford is head and shoulders better than Darnold at this point. Something needs to happen to save this kid before he DOES become Sanchez. Like FIRING Adam Gase ASAP, which I know the gutless Johnson's won't do. How did Gase even get into the conversation for the job. Let's put McCarty's resume next to Gase and you see 125 wins, several division titles, several NFC Championship games, a SB win and then you have Gase who had a losing record and players that rejoiced in his leaving. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I would be ecstatic if Sam was Matthew Stafford, absolutely ecstatic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekJet Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Darnold looks like the next cautionary tale on how to ruin a young QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Just now, sec101row23 said: I would be ecstatic if Sam was Matthew Stafford, absolutely ecstatic. Unfortunately, sadness will fill your Jet life. Prpoound sadness. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, munchmemory said: Unfortunately, sadness will fill your Jet life. Prpoound sadness. You so very, very right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Why don't we get Sam a Megatron and find out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 46 minutes ago, GreekJet said: Darnold looks like the next cautionary tale on how to ruin a young QB. No OL last year, no WRs this year, dumbass HC wants to throw all the time instead of establishing the run to set up the pass At least Luck had a good head coach as a rookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 4 hours ago, munchmemory said: I wish. At least with even awful teams Stafford could play. Darnold is another in the plethora of Jet frauds who looks lost on the field. Just wait a few weeks and see how bad this gets. It's going to be scary. i saw this pic... felt bad for the kid... he seems to be finding out he cant ball at this level... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Losmeister said: i saw this pic... felt bad for the kid... he seems to be finding out he cant ball at this level... Again, I've said this since first seeing Darnold. He just does not look right to me. Almost like he's frozen in some weird mind aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Darnold is mentally broken, to the point of David Carr. He’s been ruined, no way they let Gase ruin another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 44 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: Darnold is mentally broken, to the point of David Carr. He’s been ruined, no way they let Gase ruin another. I don’t want Gase anywhere near Lawrence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Darnold is Stafford's ugly, red headed step brother. The one that sucks at sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Philc1 said: If Stafford is considered a star he should have more than 0 total career playoff wins after 12 years in the league And he only had a top 3 all time WR to throw to Calvin Johnson has been gone for 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Only similarity I can think of: both drafted and stuck with franchises that continually fail to pieces around them. I mean it’s been like a decade alone that Detroit has failed every year to give Stafford a decent run game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 We wish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, adb280z said: Calvin Johnson has been gone for 5 years. And Stafford had him the first 7 years he was in the nfl. Sam hasn’t had anyone even on the same planet talentwise in 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/15/2020 at 9:51 PM, Philc1 said: And Stafford had him the first 7 years he was in the nfl. Sam hasn’t had anyone even on the same planet talentwise in 2 That's true. But Darnold ISN'T close to Stafford as a QB at any point of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 33 minutes ago, adb280z said: That's true. But Darnold is close to Stafford as a QB at any point of his career. lol what? At the age of 23, in his 3rd season (really his 2nd, since he was hurt and only played 3 games in year 2), Stafford threw for 41 TDs and just 16 INTs. He also went 10-6 after going 2-8 as a rookie. What are people even talking about right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: lol what? At the age of 23, in his 3rd season (really his 2nd, since he was hurt and only played 3 games in year 2), Stafford threw for 41 TDs and just 16 INTs. He also went 10-6 after going 2-8 as a rookie. What are people even talking about right now? That was a typo. It was supposed to be isn't. That's embarrassing. Darnold is definitely not close to Stafford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Sam darnold can't hold Matthew Stafford's jock... Stafford is a very good quarterback with an excellent arm and extreme accuracy .... Darnold on the other hand .... .... Let's ask the jury.Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/15/2020 at 8:48 AM, Warfish said: Based on what we've seen to-date, we wish Darnold was Matt Stafford. He's not even close so far. But good seeing the usual folks trot out the "just need weapons, and time" argument we always hear. we need an excuse menu, like a chinese menu... " I'll take the # 25, please..." (ASam has ano reppons) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/15/2020 at 10:39 AM, shuler82 said: Sam isn’t even Jon Kitna 2.0 at this point I was thinking more like Rick Mirer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTIN Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 ffwut? sam is closer to Bortles and Tru-bustskie than stafford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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