neckdemon Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Could the Jets realistically get a better deal than what was given for Ricky Williams and would it be worth it? So a teams entire 2021 draft pick allotment plus a 2022 1st? Is that realistic and would you do it? If not....what do you think it would take to make the trade away from Trevor Lawrence worth it?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post joewilly12 Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 A QB with the talent that Trevor Lawrence has doesn't come around too often. You do not trade the #1 pick you select Trevor Lawrence. End of discussion. 23 2 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 This isn't about Sam anymore and whether or not he can become a franchise QB. Have to take Trevor!!! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, neckdemon said: Could the Jets realistically get a better deal than what was given for Ricky Williams and would it be worth it? So a teams entire 2021 draft pick allotment plus a 2022 1st? Is that realistic and would you do it? If not....what do you think it would take to make the trade away from Trevor Lawrence worth it?" I'm not sure there is a universe where we could enter the draft with the #1 pick and still have confidence that Darnold is our franchise QB. But hypothetically speaking, we could probably get that, if not more, for Lawrence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: A QB with the talent that Trevor Lawrence has doesn't come around too often. You do not trade the #1 pick you select Trevor Lawrence. End of discussion. Same was said about Luck.......how did that turn out. If you are offered a complete windfall and don't even entertain it you are a bad GM imo. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, neckdemon said: Same was said about Luck.......how did that turn out. If you are offered a complete windfall and don't even entertain it you are a bad GM imo. How did the Ricky Williams trade work out for the Saints and Mike Ditka. NO WAY IN HELL, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KINGDIRK Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: A QB with the talent that Trevor Lawrence has doesn't come around too often. You do not trade the #1 pick you select Trevor Lawrence. End of discussion. JN be like “we don’t have Trevor....but we got mad picks baby. Pick, picks, picks!!!” 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I would be more interested in the compensation we could get for Sam. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Would really want to take a look at Justin Fields this Fall. If he shows he looks like a true NFL QB, in the mold of the era, you may have to listen to an offer. Say, if the #2 team wanted Lawrence badly, and you could get 2021 overall 2nd, 2021 2nd round, 2021 3rd round, 2022 1st round, 2023 1st round, I would have to listen. Probably no, but for a king's ransom, I have to listen 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Jet Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 If the Jets made trade down you know 100% that Lawrence is going to HOF. 2 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, neckdemon said: Could the Jets realistically get a better deal than what was given for Ricky Williams and would it be worth it? So a teams entire 2021 draft pick allotment plus a 2022 1st? Is that realistic and would you do it? If not....what do you think it would take to make the trade away from Trevor Lawrence worth it?" fields or lance are options as well.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: A QB with the talent that Trevor Lawrence has doesn't come around too often. You do not trade the #1 pick you select Trevor Lawrence. End of discussion. Who does Lawrence compare to? Who was the last great NFL QB who played for a college juggernaut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Sonny Werblin said: Who does Lawrence compare to? Who was the last great NFL QB who played for a college juggernaut? Im not sure he compares to anyone. He is that good. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetty Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Only way we trade this pick is if Lawrence refuses to play for us. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 It’d have to be a lot. Hershal walker or Ricky Williams a lot. Probably more because QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Name QBs who have won the national championship and a superbowl? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, Young Jetty said: Only way we trade this pick is if Lawrence refuses to play for us. You cheeky monkey. I like you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Would really want to take a look at Justin Fields this Fall. If he shows he looks like a true NFL QB, in the mold of the era, you may have to listen to an offer. Say, if the #2 team wanted Lawrence badly, and you could get 2021 overall 2nd, 2021 2nd round, 2021 3rd round, 2022 1st round, 2023 1st round, I would have to listen. Probably no, but for a king's ransom, I have to listen Arthur Blank will trade anything necessary to get Trevor. If the Falcons finish with the 2nd pick, you could get a really good deal to swap picks with them. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DonCorleone Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: A QB with the talent that Trevor Lawrence has doesn't come around too often. You do not trade the #1 pick you select Trevor Lawrence. End of discussion. A GM should be fired for even entertaining that thought. 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Whichever team is in position to draft Trevor Lawrence takes him. That looks likely to be us. End of discussion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted October 19, 2020 Author Share Posted October 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: How did the Ricky Williams trade work out for the Saints and Mike Ditka. NO WAY IN HELL, huh? he is the one who traded all the picks for ricxky williams. in this scenario we would be on the other side of the trade. i guess you could argue that washington didn't become a juggernaut afterwards though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, neckdemon said: huh? he is the one who traded all the picks for ricxky williams. in this scenario we would be on the other side of the trade. i guess you could argue that washington didn't become a juggernaut afterwards though How did it all work out? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 You take the pick and thank your lucky stars for being horrible on the year he is coming into the league. Trading the pick would basically guarantee that he becomes the next best QB in the league in Jets luck 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I would not trade the pick unless Trevor said he won't play for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Snell Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 27 minutes ago, neckdemon said: Could the Jets realistically get a better deal than what was given for Ricky Williams and would it be worth it? So a teams entire 2021 draft pick allotment plus a 2022 1st? Is that realistic and would you do it? If not....what do you think it would take to make the trade away from Trevor Lawrence worth it?" Well that takes the steam out of my post !!!!! I just hit send on my post, and saw this.Sorry for the repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: A QB with the talent that Trevor Lawrence has doesn't come around too often. You do not trade the #1 pick you select Trevor Lawrence. End of discussion. everything has a price. answer the question, beotch! 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: everything has a price. answer the question, beotch! Dude/dudette name calling is usually a sign of defeat or you cant handle the truth. I answered the question. NO TRADE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 32 minutes ago, neckdemon said: Could the Jets realistically get a better deal than what was given for Ricky Williams and would it be worth it? So a teams entire 2021 draft pick allotment plus a 2022 1st? Is that realistic and would you do it? If not....what do you think it would take to make the trade away from Trevor Lawrence worth it?" Is Ditka coaching the Saints again? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just as a friendly reminder, people were saying the same exact ish about Darnold on this very forum. 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Dude/dudette name calling is usually a sign of defeat or you cant handle the truth. I answered the question. NO I am just busting your chops broseph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, Barry McCockinner said: Just as a friendly reminder, people were saying the same exact ish about Darnold on this very forum. Sam Darnold didn't work out you move on and select a QB until you find the franchise QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: How did the Ricky Williams trade work out for the Saints and Mike Ditka. NO WAY IN HELL, Worked out great for whoever got all those picks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 29 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I'm not sure there is a universe where we could enter the draft with the #1 pick and still have confidence that Darnold is our franchise QB. But hypothetically speaking, we could probably get that, if not more, for Lawrence. Its not only that, its resetting the clock on a second contract for a FQB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, More Cowbell said: Worked out great for whoever got all those picks Really what did they win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Sam Darnold didn't work out you move on and select a QB until you find the franchise QB. That's one approach. You can keep trying the same thing an expect different results. Or you could try acquiring a metric fukton of high draft picks and build the core of the team up so any incoming QB has a much better chance at success. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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