Off Topic: Will Smith punches Chris Rock at the Oscars?

[Maynard13]

12 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

What I did was I bounced them both from the thread. This is me being super-nice.

Triple that!

[Irish Jet]

14 hours ago, Awesumtenor said:

As the husband of a woman with alopecia, I can tell you she’d rather have cancer; with cancer at least your hair comes back after chemo. 

What in the actual f*ck?

I know we're all pretty narcissistic and think our problems are all encompassing because they're our problems but this is absolutely absurd.

Your hair falls out. It sucks. It happens most men at some point. Like with men some women can manage it better than others, both mentally and physically. Jada still looks great, the woman she was being compared to looked great. The outrage over the joke was absolutely laughable. 

I'm not one of those anti-SJW losers who complain about everything but the whole policing of comedy has to stop. They're jokes and some will offend, some are supposed to offend. There was nothing malicious or mean spirited about it, he was trying to get laughs and he got them. Job done. 

[RutgersJetFan]

1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said:

What I did was I bounced them both from the thread. This is me being super-nice.

KEEP THE LUNATIC POSTERS OUT OF THIS MOTHER****IN THREAD

[Warfish]

13 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

KEEP THE LUNATIC POSTERS OUT OF THIS MOTHER****IN THREAD

Keep your all-caps the f*** out this forum.

Keep your all-caps the f*** out this forum.

[Sperm Edwards]

31 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

KEEP THE LUNATIC POSTERS OUT OF THIS MOTHER****IN THREAD

[Matt39]

Bruce Willis- top 50? Just saw he’s retiring for health reasons.

[TuscanyTile2]

2 hours ago, HighPitch said:

Can the mods close this stupid ass thread already. Time to grow up and deal with the real workd

Why are you telling others what to discuss?  Nobody is forcing anyone to read threads that they don't want to. 

[Sperm Edwards]

5 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Why are you telling others what to discuss?  Nobody is forcing anyone to read threads that they don't want to. 

In fairness, I saw to it that JN jumps to this page every time he revisits, so we are kind of forcing it upon him. 

Not unlike Dr. Chilton, @Maxman does enjoy his petty torments.

[GreenFish]

4 hours ago, Tranquilo said:

https://www.thetealmango.com/featured/top-10-highest-paid-actors-in-the-world/

And I'd say only Denzel, Leo and Brad Pitt are in the same stratosphere. 

Do you think people watch movies because of the actors? My guess is no.

That makes it difficult to rank actors. I’d just group them. There are actors who get sent scripts/get recruited by movie directors and there are actors who need agents and need to send audition clips. The second group has various sub groups. Someone I know is in the movie industry and he is always sending clips to directors. It’s a difficult industry. You can even further divide the first group between A List actors etc.

Will Smith is an A List actor. I didnt know this until just now, but the Ulmer Scale tries to rank actors within the A List group. For what it’s worth (I dont know how good this scale is) this is the order as of 2009

1. Will Smith

2. Johnny Depp

3. Brad Pitt

4. Tom Hanks

5. George Clooney

6. Will Ferrell

7. Reese Witherspoon

8.  Nicolas Cage

9. Leonardo DiCaprio

10. Russell Crowe

Again not sure how accurate these lists are. Nobody went to go see King Richard. Everyone I know wants to watch a movie based on the story and not the actors. But that’s just my opinion.

[Tranquilo]

20 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

Do you think people watch movies because of the actors? My guess is no.

That makes it difficult to rank actors. I’d just group them. There are actors who get sent scripts/get recruited by movie directors and there are actors who need agents and need to send audition clips. The second group has various sub groups. Someone I know is in the movie industry and he is always sending clips to directors. It’s a difficult industry. You can even further divide the first group between A List actors etc.

Will Smith is an A List actor. I didnt know this until just now, but the Ulmer Scale tries to rank actors within the A List group. For what it’s worth (I dont know how good this scale is) this is the order as of 2009

1. Will Smith

2. Johnny Depp

3. Brad Pitt

4. Tom Hanks

5. George Clooney

6. Will Ferrell

7. Reese Witherspoon

8.  Nicolas Cage

9. Leonardo DiCaprio

10. Russell Crowe

Again not sure how accurate these lists are. Nobody went to go see King Richard. Everyone I know wants to watch a movie based on the story and not the actors. But that’s just my opinion.

I think it's a complex answer. A little of both? Like if I see Leo is in something, I will most likely watch. But the role of the movie star is dwindling, it isn't like the 50s and 60s, and what sells is mostly superhero movies and IP people are familiar with. I wish executives had your mindset, because they're worried about story if people aren't familiar with it. But I prefer original stories as well.

King Richard was a case of a good script with a movie star, and it didn't do well. But that type of movie usually doesn't do well these days. 

Will is a movie star not only because of the past 5 years but because of what he's achieved up until this point. Bad Boys III did pretty well, but that is also IP. Suicide Squad (2016) sucked but it did well, but that is also IP. 

So yeah, it isn't the same being a big time movie star. Doesn't matter much. I think that's a pretty good list for that time period and I think today, only Leo, Clooney, Hanks, Pitt and Smith would be on it. Witherspoon has gained a lot of fame, too and guys like Crowe and Depp have dimmed a bit. Anyway, I'm like you. It's about the story, but I always thought of Will Smith as a really famous person.

[Sperm Edwards]

1 hour ago, GreenFish said:

Do you think people watch movies because of the actors? My guess is no.

That makes it difficult to rank actors. I’d just group them. There are actors who get sent scripts/get recruited by movie directors and there are actors who need agents and need to send audition clips. The second group has carious sub groups. Someone I know is in the movie industry and he is always sending clips to directors. It’s a difficult industry. You can even further divide the first group between A List actors etc.

Will Smith is an A List actor. I didnt know this until just now, but the Ulmer Scale tries to rank actors within the A List group. For what it’s worth (I dont know how good this scale is) this is the order as of 2009

1. Will Smith

2. Johnny Depp

3. Brad Pitt

4. Tom Hanks

5. George Clooney

6. Will Ferrell

7. Reese Witherspoon

8.  Nicolas Cage

9. Leonardo DiCaprio

10. Russell Crowe

Got to imagine Will Smith is about to take a big hit though. I doubt anyone is like “hell yea Will, now I’ll watch your movies”. So, his net favorability has to be down.

There have been plenty of movies that did well because of the cast - if not because of one member of the cast - but most of those names no longer apply.

Some of the reason is the best screenplays I'll bet will go to the hottest A-list actor(s), and they can still have stinkers (particularly when it's not a high-budget action movie with a big name in it), but some can take any film & turn it into a serious hit movie.

Best A-List example of being a box office draw for an otherwise weak cast & screenplay is probably Estelle Getty in Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot. 

But there are others who just get people to go to the theater instead of waiting months to just watch it at home:

• Tim Curry in Oscar
• Burt Young in the Rocky Movies
• Richard Crenna in the Rambo movies
• Teri Hatcher in Tango & Cash
• Paul Winfield in Cliffhanger
• James Woods in The Specialist
• Nigel Hawthorne in Demolition Man
• Mickey Rourke in The Expendables. 
• Also, to a slightly lesser extent, the volleyball in Cast Away

[RutgersJetFan]

1 hour ago, GreenFish said:

Do you think people watch movies because of the actors? My guess is no.

Yes everyone would have been racing to the theaters to watch Twins if it had starred the lead guys from Ski Patrol. 

[THE BARON]

2 hours ago, Irish Jet said:

I'm not one of those anti-SJW losers 

SJW's don't authentically care about social justice.  They are almost always people with very few if any accomplishments that look to gain power and significance that they have not earned through constructive/productive efforts.  The most common tactic would be to make specious accusations against others that are established and successful.  SJW virtue signaling is the social politics of envy along with being demonstrable hypocrisy. 

Who are the real losers ???

[Pac]

Hopefully we can beat the post count of Jetsfan80s infamous fap thread.

I want to see peoples heads explode. (no pun intended)

[Warfish]

8 minutes ago, Pac said:

Hopefully we can beat the post count of Jetsfan80s infamous fap thread.

I want to see peoples heads explode. (no pun intended)

Feels more like a double entendre than a pun, but bonus points none-the-less.

[Maxman]

20 pages and people want me to close this down.  Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[greenwichjetfan]

48 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

There have been plenty of movies that did well because of the cast - if not because of one member of the cast - but most of those names no longer apply.

Some of the reason is the best screenplays I'll bet will go to the hottest A-list actor(s), and they can still have stinkers (particularly when it's not a high-budget action movie with a big name in it), but some can take any film & turn it into a serious hit movie.

Best example is probably Estelle Getty in Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot. But there are others who just get people to go to the theater instead of waiting months to just watch it at home, like Tim Curry in Oscar, Burt Young in the Rocky Movies, Richard Crenna in the Rambo movies, Teri Hatcher in Tango & Cash, Paul Winfield in Cliffhanger, James Woods in The Specialist, Nigel Hawthorne in Demolition Man, and Mickey Rourke in The Expendables. Also, to a slightly lesser extent, the volleyball in Cast Away.  

THAT VOLLEYBALL HAS A NAME, SPERM!

[Rangers9]

Look many Americans and it goes for people all around the world are mad as hell. Our way of life has been stopped and over 6 million dead. We’ve seen irrational behavior and crime spikes. It’s brought out the worst at times and sometimes the best. People have lost jobs had to wait on lines for basic food been evicted etc. And if that wasn’t enough now we see a crazy war with bombing of civilians for no rational reason. So what we saw Oscar night from Will Smith might just have been an example of it. I don’t know but maybe in normal times he’d have acted rational. Because he was unhinged. 
 

[The Crusher]

1 minute ago, Maxman said:

20 pages and people want me to close this down.  Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Oh hell 

[Integrity28]

1 hour ago, GreenFish said:

Do you think people watch movies because of the actors? My guess is no.

That makes it difficult to rank actors. I’d just group them. There are actors who get sent scripts/get recruited by movie directors and there are actors who need agents and need to send audition clips. The second group has various sub groups. Someone I know is in the movie industry and he is always sending clips to directors. It’s a difficult industry. You can even further divide the first group between A List actors etc.

Will Smith is an A List actor. I didnt know this until just now, but the Ulmer Scale tries to rank actors within the A List group. For what it’s worth (I dont know how good this scale is) this is the order as of 2009

1. Will Smith

2. Johnny Depp

3. Brad Pitt

4. Tom Hanks

5. George Clooney

6. Will Ferrell

7. Reese Witherspoon

8.  Nicolas Cage

9. Leonardo DiCaprio

10. Russell Crowe

Again not sure how accurate these lists are. Nobody went to go see King Richard. Everyone I know wants to watch a movie based on the story and not the actors. But that’s just my opinion.

Will Smith is and has been white America’s favorite Black actor for some time. Dramatic and action roles. This moved him into a universal appeal stratosphere.

Not even sure how this is a debate.

[Jets Things]

2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Will Smith is and has been white America’s favorite Black actor for some time. Dramatic and action roles. This moved him into a universal appeal stratosphere.

Not even sure how this is a debate.

I would think more people would choose Denzel Washington or Morgan Freeman over Will Slapth. Personally, I'm a fan of that beefcake Idris Elba. 

[Integrity28]

10 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

Look many Americans and it goes for people all around the world are mad as hell. Our way of life has been stopped and over 6 million dead. We’ve seen irrational behavior and crime spikes. It’s brought out the worst at times and sometimes the best. People have lost jobs had to wait on lines for basic food been evicted etc. And if that wasn’t enough now we see a crazy war with bombing of civilians for no rational reason. So what we saw Oscar night from Will Smith might just have been an example of it. I don’t know but maybe in normal times he’d have acted rational. Because he was unhinged. 
 

Wait, are you equivocating the millionaire experience during the pandemic to the poor experience?

His wife caught dick on the side. He banged Margot Robbie. They’re terrible people in a terrible relationship enable by terribly large sums of money and snd industry that profits off of them.

 

[Integrity28]

1 minute ago, Jets Things said:

I would think more people would choose Denzel Washington or Morgan Freeman over Will Slapth. Personally, I'm a fan of that beefcake Idris Elba. 

Okay, “arguably”. 

[The Crusher]

3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Wait, are you equivocating the millionaire experience during the pandemic to the poor experience?

His wife caught dick on the side. He banged Margot Robbie. They’re terrible people in a terrible relationship enable by terribly large sums of money and snd industry that profits off of them.

 

For  the life of me I cant tell her and Jaime Pressly apart. Not that guy would have to, I just can’t seem to, 

[jetstream23]

On 3/27/2022 at 9:06 PM, TuscanyTile2 said:

 

 

 

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[Rangers9]

13 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Wait, are you equivocating the millionaire experience during the pandemic to the poor experience?

His wife caught dick on the side. He banged Margot Robbie. They’re terrible people in a terrible relationship enable by terribly large sums of money and snd industry that profits off of them.

 

It’s easier to be rich during a pandemic and I could be totally off ascribing his behavior to anything or for any reason. I don’t know them. Like you say they could just be terrible people. But it’s terrible times and people who normally usually act civil to each other we’ve seen losing it. Maybe Will’s actions were just a sign of the times. Because we’ve never seen an established person like him act this way and totally lose control in front of the entire world. Maybe behind the scenes but not like this. 

[Jetsfan80]

35 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Will Smith is and has been white America’s favorite Black actor for some time. Dramatic and action roles. This moved him into a universal appeal stratosphere.

Not even sure how this is a debate.

 

31 minutes ago, Jets Things said:

I would think more people would choose Denzel Washington or Morgan Freeman over Will Slapth. Personally, I'm a fan of that beefcake Idris Elba. 

 

Numbers don't lie.  During the mid 90s-2000s, Smith's films garnered about $200M box office per movie.  That dwarfs any other black actor during that era.

Denzel, Freeman, and Elba are all superior actors.  But they weren't as popular to the general public as Smith was.

[Integrity28]

22 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

It’s easier to be rich during a pandemic and I could be totally off ascribing his behavior to anything or for any reason. I don’t know them. Like you say they could just be terrible people. But it’s terrible times and people who normally usually act civil to each other we’ve seen losing it. Maybe Will’s actions were just a sign of the times. Because we’ve never seen an established person like him act this way and totally lose control in front of the entire world. Maybe behind the scenes but not like this. 

Yeah, that’s just not true. 

[Integrity28]

2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

 

Numbers don't lie.  During the mid 90s-2000s, Smith's films garnered about $200M box office per movie.  That dwarfs any other black actor during that era.

Denzel, Freeman, and Elba are all superior actors.  But they weren't as popular to the general public as Smith was.

Multiple action movies and franchises + incredible dramatic roles.

Oh, and a generational tv sitcom.

[BigRy56]

20 pages over this sh*t? Lmao

[HawkeyeJet]

Will Smith punched Chris Rock?  What?  When was this?

[Integrity28]

1 minute ago, BigRy56 said:

20 pages over this sh*t? Lmao

The more commendable thing is that it hasn’t gotten locked.

 

[Warfish]

33 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

For  the life of me I cant tell her and Jaime Pressly apart. Not that guy would have to, I just can’t seem to, 

Fair point.

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, HawkeyeJet said:

Will Smith punched Chris Rock?  What?  When was this?

^^^

Busy celebrating National Agriculture Month all of March.

[Warfish]

28 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

Because we’ve never seen an established person like him act this way and totally lose control in front of the entire world.