Fantasy Island Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Coquito said: We can probably get Sean Clifford in the 5th or 6th round: https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Sean-Clifford-QB-PennState Never again, next! We should have learned that with Sanchez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, JonMcgraw38 said: A guy who might end up being available is CJ Stroud who fits your criteria. Guy has a lot of red flags that I think will cause him to drop. He’s not great under pressure, he’s not mobile, he’s not good out of structure. What he does well is distribute the ball to playmakers in structure. Should be a good fit for the Shannahan system. This kid doesn't get past pick 10. We pick about 20th. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 There is a constant theme on this board that JD/Saleh have a playoff mandate for next year-make the playoffs or be fired. The roster is considered "strong." Its ok. Ignoring cost, the DL, Mosley, Reed and Sauce, the WRs, RBs, TEs and half the OL are under contract. Others have to be extended or replaced. We need to use high picks for more WR, OL, S, LB. As much as I believe and would like to draft a QB, I don't know how JD is doing that when he can plug a hole on the OL (Again) with a 1st round pick. Or replaced Corey Davis and/or Mims. He has drafted his last QB, at least for awhile. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fantasy Island Posted December 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2022 Hendon Hooker, QB, Tennessee Height: 6-4. Weight: 218. Projected 40 Time: 4.70. Projected Round (2023): 3-5. 12/27/22: Hooker completed 70 percent of his passes for his 2022 season for 3,135 yards, 27 touchdowns and two interceptions. He also recorded 430 yards and five touchdowns on the ground. Hooker tore an ACL in the penultimate game of the regular season, and that injury could cost him part of, or all of, his rookie season in the NFL. Hooker played well against Florida and LSU, leading Tennessee to some big wins. He was phenomenal versus Alabama, leading the Volunteers to a legendary victory. Hooker has quality arm talent and running ability, but he needs development with field vision, reading defenses, and being a polished pocket passer for the NFL. 7/19/22: Hooker broke out in 2021, flashing some ability while completing 68 percent of his passes for 2,945 yards, 31 touchdowns and three interceptions. The Virginia Tech transfer also ran for 620 yards and five touchdowns. If Hooker becomes a more polished pocket passer, he could be a riser for the 2023 NFL Draft. 3rd round, make the pick 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 51 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: I know a lot of people don't want to draft a quarterback again, but I think the Jets got to draft one. You draft a quarterback every year until you have your franchise quarterback. Where have I heard that from? Note: I'm not saying Mike White isn't the guy. He's still got to prove it. you want to draft one thats fine but were not using 1st rd picks. i dont even want to use 2nd rd picks. by the time we draft we should have QB1 on the roster. whoever that is is expected to take us to the next step... Playoffs. we need those top picks to fill holes on the OL, WR2, Saftey, maybe LB. there were alot of really good QBs drafted in the 3rd round and beyond. Brady, Russ Wilson, Dak, Romo, Cousins,......even if you do 2nd rd you have Hurts, Carr, Jimmy G..... just no more #1s. not now. were close to making a serious run and we will get a decent QB in FA. need to fill more holes in the roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, doitny said: you want to draft one thats fine but were not using 1st rd picks. i dont even want to use 2nd rd picks. by the time we draft we should have QB1 on the roster. whoever that is is expected to take us to the next step... Playoffs. we need those top picks to fill holes on the OL, WR2, Saftey, maybe LB. there were alot of really good QBs drafted in the 3rd round and beyond. Brady, Russ Wilson, Dak, Romo, Cousins,......even if you do 2nd rd you have Hurts, Carr, Jimmy G..... just no more #1s. not now. were close to making a serious run and we will get a decent QB in FA. need to fill more holes in the roster. Jets will need to trade back and try to acquire extra picks in the draft. That's why I was pissed when I saw what Miami got when they traded back with the 49ers. The more picks in the draft the better in my honest opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 27 minutes ago, TNJet said: I'd bring in Marcus Mariota to compete with MW. Mariota could win some games with this wr core given we improve the offensive line. He's also pretty mobile. Draft Hooker in round 2 to sit for a year and learn. My personal preference. This plan absolutely requires them to unload Zach. That is my preference, but it’s no lock. I prefer they bring in a veteran they believe can be the guy, and tailor the offense to further fit that specific player. Use those picks to strengthen the team around them. The window for the all the young talent on this team is going to grow short, I’d be focused on maximizing that. A high pick who you don’t plan on playing does not help the team next year. I’m still holding out hope for the playoffs this year. NE has two losable games coming up, and the Jets have two winnable ones. But, if they don’t, they are going to have to reach the post season next year or face questions about employment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, EM31 said: Must: Be NFL-sized (yes this includes hand size because that is not just important to the MILFs and Tomshane). Look he needs to be able to see over NFL defensive linemen and he needs to be big enough to take a hit every now and then.. He needs to play in December and January in the North east. Must: Not have questions about durability coming in Must: Have played enough games against enough good defenses to have at least some idea what running an NFL offense might be like Must: Be ready to sit for a year at the next level Must: Be provided with adequate coaching Strongly preferred: Has a record of accuracy Must: Be provided with at least adequate protection. Hopefully better than that but at least adequate. Nice to Have: A big arm We should be drafting one of these guys every single year if we need to until we end up hitting on one. this screams Hendon Hooker. Except for the ACL injury. But I think that and his age are the only reasons he falls for the Jets to even have a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Two guys who might fit the profile. The BC QB and the Purdue QB, O’Connell I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Lith said: MW handles pressure pretty well, but aside from that, agreed there are a lot of similarities. If we are rolling with MW, 2 MW’s sounds like a good idea ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Unless it’s a day 3 pick I am against drafting another QB again. When was the last time drafting a QB in the first 3 rounds hasn’t ended in disaster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 53 minutes ago, doitny said: you want to draft one thats fine but were not using 1st rd picks. i dont even want to use 2nd rd picks. by the time we draft we should have QB1 on the roster. whoever that is is expected to take us to the next step... Playoffs. we need those top picks to fill holes on the OL, WR2, Saftey, maybe LB. there were alot of really good QBs drafted in the 3rd round and beyond. Brady, Russ Wilson, Dak, Romo, Cousins,......even if you do 2nd rd you have Hurts, Carr, Jimmy G..... just no more #1s. not now. were close to making a serious run and we will get a decent QB in FA. need to fill more holes in the roster. This is how I feel. I want the Jets to cut Davis, Tomlinson, Berrios, maybe even Mosley so you can clear cap to bring in a legit vet FA QB, resign Huff, Quincy and Herbig. Then draft OT and WR in Rds 1 and 2. LB and IOL in Rd. 3 and 4. If there is a raw, high-upside QB sitting there is Rd. 5 (big arm, good size, athletic) then I guess take him to sit behind Zach and the vet FA. If not, take a safety or IDL. If the Jets really, really like a QB. Who am I to say one shouldn't be taken, even if its early. Would it be so wrong to take Anthony Richardson for example and sit him behind a vet? Unleash him next year? I don't know. But its not how I would approach the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted December 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2022 The next drafted QB has to have a little hair on his chest. They need to stop drafting these nice, young men that Woody can feel comfortable parading around the country club. Playing QB for the Jets is ******* hard and whoever does it is going to face constant anger and vitriol from large segments of the fan base. Keep your boy scouts, your suburban mushes, your country music fans. Go get a former walk-on who played on the biggest stages with a ten-ton chip on their shoulder. No former-five star pussies. The Jets QB needs to come with some scar tissue already built up. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, EM31 said: Must: Be NFL-sized (yes this includes hand size because that is not just important to the MILFs and Tomshane). Look he needs to be able to see over NFL defensive linemen and he needs to be big enough to take a hit every now and then.. He needs to play in December and January in the North east. Must: Not have questions about durability coming in Must: Have played enough games against enough good defenses to have at least some idea what running an NFL offense might be like Must: Be ready to sit for a year at the next level Must: Be provided with adequate coaching Strongly preferred: Has a record of accuracy Must: Be provided with at least adequate protection. Hopefully better than that but at least adequate. Nice to Have: A big arm We should be drafting one of these guys every single year if we need to until we end up hitting on one. A Must that you forgot: Must have been drafted by another team, and picked up as a FA or via trade because a Jet GM will never get it right... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 48 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Jets will need to trade back and try to acquire extra picks in the draft. That's why I was pissed when I saw what Miami got when they traded back with the 49ers. The more picks in the draft the better in my honest opinion. Don't forget we get an extra 4th round pick from the Zach Wilson trade to Cleveland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The next drafted QB has to have a little hair on his chest. They need to stop drafting these nice, young men that Woody can feel comfortable parading around the country club. Playing QB for the Jets is ******* hard and whoever does it is going to face constant anger and vitriol from large segments of the fan base. Keep your boy scouts, your suburban mushes, your country music fans. Go get a former walk-on who played on the biggest stages with a ten-ton chip on their shoulder. No former-five star pussies. The Jets QB needs to come with some scar tissue already built up. Perhaps…just spitballing here….the kind of guy who grew up just north of Miami (meaning he’s not scared of death) - same town as Lawrence Taylor and Geno Atkins. One who started at South Florida but transferred to Western Kentucky when the coach changed his offensive style. Then ended up a late round pick who was eventually let go by the team who drafted him. Who then was cut, signed, cut and signed repeatedly by his 2nd team before earning a chance to start a few games before being benched or buried on the depth chart and then repeating the process. Beloved by teammates and coaches for his toughness and attitude. I dunno just something I’ve been kicking around. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, TNJet said: Don't forget we get an extra 4th round pick from the Zach Wilson trade to Cleveland Way to punish Cleveland fans. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Perhaps…just spitballing here….the kind of guy who grew up just north of Miami (meaning he’s not scared of death) - same town as Lawrence Taylor and Geno Atkins. One who started at South Florida but transferred to Western Kentucky when the coach changed his offensive style. Then ended up a late round pick who was eventually let go by the team who drafted him. Who then was cut, signed, cut and signed repeatedly by his 2nd team before earning a chance to start a few games before being benched or buried on the depth chart and then repeating the process. Beloved by teammates and coaches for his toughness and attitude. I dunno just something I’ve been kicking around. Mike White and Stetson Bennett 2023! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Way to punish Cleveland fans. lol They are used to it, much like us haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The next drafted QB has to have a little hair on his chest. They need to stop drafting these nice, young men that Woody can feel comfortable parading around the country club. Playing QB for the Jets is ******* hard and whoever does it is going to face constant anger and vitriol from large segments of the fan base. Keep your boy scouts, your suburban mushes, your country music fans. Go get a former walk-on who played on the biggest stages with a ten-ton chip on their shoulder. No former-five star pussies. The Jets QB needs to come with some scar tissue already built up. 2023 Rookie QB, Austin Powers, #69 overall, MoreHead State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Way to punish Cleveland fans. lol Haha losing the competition to Jacoby Brissett will be the nail in his coffin . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 its not about that none of that will matter until they get a new OC and a coach that has a TRACK RECORD OF DEVELOPING QUARTERBACKS putting a project QB as a day 1 starter with a bum rookie OC no vet QB and no QB coach is something ONLY THE JETS WOULD DO Fire LaFloor, give Zach a year to see if he develops, and go from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 I'm fine with a mid round pick, but I want no parts of drafting a QB in Rd 1-2 for at least a few years.... We need stability with this current group....not half ass development from a green offensive staff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: I'm fine with a mid round pick, but I want no parts of drafting a QB in Rd 1-2 for at least a few years.... We need stability with this current group....not half ass development from a green offensive staff JD had the right idea by taking James Morgan round 4, but he was a terrible pick and fit. The Jets need to take shots at QBs rounds 4-7, if not 3. MW was a 5th. They need to have coaches dedicated to developing them, even on the PS. It should be a pipeline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, PepPep said: This is how I feel. I want the Jets to cut Davis, Tomlinson, Berrios, maybe even Mosley so you can clear cap to bring in a legit vet FA QB, resign Huff, Quincy and Herbig. Then draft OT and WR in Rds 1 and 2. LB and IOL in Rd. 3 and 4. If there is a raw, high-upside QB sitting there is Rd. 5 (big arm, good size, athletic) then I guess take him to sit behind Zach and the vet FA. If not, take a safety or IDL. If the Jets really, really like a QB. Who am I to say one shouldn't be taken, even if its early. Would it be so wrong to take Anthony Richardson for example and sit him behind a vet? Unleash him next year? I don't know. But its not how I would approach the draft. i dont know who Anthony Richardson is but if you draft him early and look to start him next year then im guessing the vet QB your bringing in wont be that good cause he is just here to hold the spot for a year. and if next year we make the playoffs you want to give this kid the job in 2024? then you know the deal..... we cant just give him 2 games.... hes having growing pains..... blah blah blah.... a 1st rd pick will have to play by year 2. 2nd rd by year three. i dont want pressure to play the high pick again. after i just wrote this i seen your last sentence.... you would NOT DO THIS...lol ok we agree.. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, THE BARON said: Tanner McKeee. https://theathletic.com/3530149/2022/09/03/tanner-mckee-2023-nfl-draft-scouting/ https://www.profootballnetwork.com/tanner-mckee-qb-stanford-nfl-draft-scouting-report-2023/ https://thedraftnetwork.com/sr-prospect/tanner-mckee-4aaa60a3-9f50-488b-b12f-b5dc3b2da216/ https://www.pff.com/news/draft-top-25-pac-12-2023-nfl-draft-prospects-stanford-tanner-mckee Do you really expect someone named Tanner to succeed in NY? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, slats said: I have no interest in another rookie QB, certainly not another first rounder. Not yet. Bring in a vet to run this team, use those picks to improve the rest of the roster. Ok, which vet QB do we roll with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rldev Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Coquito said: We can probably get Sean Clifford in the 5th or 6th round: https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Sean-Clifford-QB-PennState As a PSU alum, god no. Please just say no to Clifford. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 minute ago, PS17 said: Do you really expect someone named Tanner to succeed in NY? You think that's bad. How about the surname Hooker? lol Hooker Sucks! Hooker Blows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 I’m a firm believer that the most important things that end up making a good QB a good QB are things you will never really get a good grasp of entirely from them playing college football, especially the current brand of college football. 1. Pocket awareness. Obviously this can be judged, but not in a big enough sample size to make an accurate judgement. 2. Processing speed/acumen. This will get harder and harder to gauge until the “entire offense check with me and I’ll tell you the checks and adjustments” trend goes away, which it might never. Some people will disagree, but accuracy can be taught. But it can also be ruined by thinking about #1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 53 minutes ago, PS17 said: Do you really expect someone named Tanner to succeed in NY? It's not like we didn't already have a Chadwick and a Zachary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJayce Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Coquito said: In 2022 as a fifth year senior Clifford saw action in 12 games as he threw for an excellent 2543 yards on 330 attempts with a completion percent of 63.6 for an average of 7.7 yards per pass, with an excellent 22 TDs, while taking 15 sacks, and totaling a QB rating of 100.6. He added 52 runs for a total of 255 yards at an average of 4.9 per run. SCOUTING REPORT: STRENGTHS He’s a pure athlete, loose-limbed and flexible. Clifford has the speed to pick up yardage in scramble situations. Physically, Clifford is a natural athlete who plays with the balance and light feet to float in the pocket. He’s good enough as a runner to work read-option plays, keeping back-side defenders in place. He plays with a confident demeanor and has the athleticism to move out of the pocket and create plays out of structure. From a physical standpoint, a prototypical modern quarterback. Clifford must be accounted for when used in the read-option game. SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES Clifford gets sloppy with his mechanics on the move, losing accuracy as Clifford relies too much on his arm. Too often fails to give receivers a chance to make a play after the catch. High completion percentage padded by many quick screens. Clifford has a bad habit of fading and throwing off his back foot when the pocket gets muddled, and he is too often all arm when throwing on the move, sacrificing accuracy. Who wrote this scouting report? A 12 year old? Ugh... In the first paragraph, where are we 'qualifying' the stats? Excellent yards? Excellent TDs? WTH?! In the Strengths, they used 6 bullets to mention that he's an athlete, has speed, and can work the read option (I color coded by theme, cause why not). Felt like that would be one, maybe 2 bullets? I'm also not seeing anything about this ABILITY TO THROW?! In the weakness, he's inaccurate with bad mechanics, as well as throwing off his back foot? And doesn't given receivers a chance to make a play? WTH?!??! Is this another Zach? Why would we do this to ourselves?!?!? Sorry... I need to lay off the caffeine for a bit I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 4 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Yes no more midgets and Peter Pan type .... can we also draft a college qb who actually looked capable facing real defenses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xJayce Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, FactsOnly said: its not about that none of that will matter until they get a new OC and a coach that has a TRACK RECORD OF DEVELOPING QUARTERBACKS putting a project QB as a day 1 starter with a bum rookie OC no vet QB and no QB coach is something ONLY THE JETS WOULD DO Fire LaFloor, give Zach a year to see if he develops, and go from there And by this, you mean have him play? Or have him sit? And I thought it was on the QB coach to work with developing the QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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