Columbia Jet Fan Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Great. Backup C/G is pretty solid. I wouldn't even mind seeing CMG start over Laken if he is bad again this year. Jets should draft a C with pick 43 or third round or sign Ben Jones. That, plus an OT at 15 or 43 will give us more OL depth than we've ever had. Still not sure how good the unit would be (will ultimately depend a lot on Becton + rookie contributions) - but at least we could sustain an injury or two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 He went from $9 per to less than $2? I thought I missed he was 35, turns out hes only 26. He really wants Aaron deep up in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Great deal. I definitely think we should draft at least a developmental C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, pointman said: He went from $9 per to less than $2? I thought I missed he was 35, turns out hes only 26. He really wants Aaron deep up in there. He's neither 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, pointman said: He went from $9 per to less than $2? I thought I missed he was 35, turns out hes only 26. He really wants Aaron deep up in there. He turns 30 tomorrow. Wrong McGovern 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UntouchableCrew Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Butterfield said: Thats a great deal and doesn’t prevent them from drafting a center. He must have had NO other options. This def jives with the rumors that there just wasn't a market for him. Candidly I never thought he was very good but at that pricetag it makes all the sense in the world to bring him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 2 hours ago, IndianaJet said: The Rodgers effect. A chance to win. Does he sign back here at those numbers if he has to snap the ball to Wilson - maybe not. Better than stocking shelves at Hinky Dinky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 He wanted to play in the Superbowl this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Great deal for a solid player, EAD @T0mShane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 37 minutes ago, pointman said: He went from $9 per to less than $2? I thought I missed he was 35, turns out hes only 26. He really wants Aaron deep up in there. 20 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: He's neither If only we possessed some sort of device for finding this information 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 He got a small contract because he’s f*cking terrible. I like how people are pretending the interior of our line hasn’t been a debacle every year he’s been here. The league is evidently more aware of his ability than the trash at PFF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: He got a small contract because he’s f*cking terrible. I like how people are pretending the interior of our line hasn’t been a debacle every year he’s been here. The league is evidently more aware of his ability than the trash at PFF. ☝️ Irish Bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 The Jets had nothing against McGovern, but early on the word was they were going in a different direction because they wanted to add a player with more of a nasty, "enforcer" mentality at C. This makes sense now. Jets have him under contract for pennies pre-draft; waiting until after the draft could've resulted in demand for him increasing due to increased demand. If the Jets don't land a C early in the draft they'll have him compete to start with Schweitzer and Colon. They could still consider signing Ben Jones as well. If they do land a C early the same applies- they'll have an open competition, and whoever loses out would likely get traded/cut. If McGovern were to stick he could still provide valuable depth as a backup C/G. Simply put: this does not change their draft strategy. If Tippmann is there at 43, still think he's the pick. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 That's good to hear. He really should be considered no more than a depth signing looking to be upgraded, so nice to see that's how he was paid. Hopefully means they know better than to think they can trot out the same OL as last year, minus Fant, and get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 home run contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: He's neither 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: If only we possessed some sort of device for finding this information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Yup. NOT a long term solution by any means. so many on this board said once we signed McGovern that drafting a Center early was now off the table. I disagree. The Jets still need to draft a Center early. McGovern is a great depth signing, especially because he can move over to guard. And he may very well start. But I think if the Jets draft a C early, he is by no means guaranteed a starting spot and the two will compete, which is always a good thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 McGovern is an ok center who was a 5th round draft pick. In the 4th round, the Jets should be able to find a C. They also need DT, S and LB. I think it comes down to who the best player available is when the Jets pick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 5 hours ago, BurntDice said: Signing starting centers at 2 mil, but yet people still want to draft one high smh From the beginning, this franchise has had an anchor planted at the center position, from John Schmitt for 10 seasons, including Superbowl III, Joe Fields for 12 years, Jim Sweeney (2d round pick #37) for 7 years, Kevin Mawae (Seattle 2d round pick #36) for 7 years, and then Nick Mangold, (1st round pick #29) for 11 years. Interestingly, the only years in which the jets were in playoffs were with one of these guys at center. Ever since Nick retired, the Jets have had nothing but dogsh*t at the position and the results have been obvious. Take a center in the 2nd round, like most of the guys above, that can anchor this line for a decade. I'll be happy with any of the 4 Big Ten from Minnesota, Ohio St, Wisconsin, even Michigan. Or get Scruggs from Penn St later. I want a center for the Jet OL that will lead the team.. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, Dcat said: From the beginning, this franchise has had an anchor planted at the center position, from John Schmitt for 10 seasons, including Superbowl III, Joe Fields for 12 years, Jim Sweeney (2d round pick #37) for 7 years, Kevin Mawae (Seattle 2d round pick #36) for 7 years, and then Nick Mangold, (1st round pick #29) for 11 years. Interestingly, the only years in which the jets were in playoffs were with one of these guys at center. Ever since Nick retired, the Jets have had nothing but dogsh*t at the position and the results have been obvious. Take a center in the 2nd round, like most of the guys above, that can anchor this line for a decade. I'll be happy with any of the 4 Big Ten from Minnesota, Ohio St, Wisconsin, even Michigan. Or get Scruggs from Penn St later. I want a center for the Jet OL that will lead the team.. This team has been a laughing stock because of having terrible qbs. No one cares about centers. Trying to say center is the reason for failure is very inaccurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 6 hours ago, BurntDice said: Signing starting centers at 2 mil, but yet people still want to draft one high smh You get what you pay for. Absolutely target a Center in the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, OilfieldJet said: You get what you pay for. Absolutely target a Center in the draft. In the 4th sure. In the earlier rounds you target guys in positions who get paid a lot. This maximizes the value of the rookie contract. the average center makes 6 mil or less. You aren’t benefiting cap wise from first or 2nd round centers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, BurntDice said: This team has been a laughing stock because of having terrible qbs. No one cares about centers. Trying to say center is the reason for failure is very inaccurate You didn't even read what I said. Nowhere did I say center is the reason for failure. Of course, it's just a coincidence that the times we've won, even with bums like Sanchez, we've had a solid Oline, and always with a solid anchor for center. You may very likely be disappointed in day 2 of the draft. You probably don't want to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 38 minutes ago, Dcat said: You didn't even read what I said. Nowhere did I say center is the reason for failure. Of course, it's just a coincidence that the times we've won, even with bums like Sanchez, we've had a solid Oline, and always with a solid anchor for center. You may very likely be disappointed in day 2 of the draft. You probably don't want to watch. We’ll see. 8 total centers have been taken in the first 2 rounds the last 4 years combined. At least 4 are busts or no longer play center. Thats 256 picks and only 8 are center. That shows how low value the position is when 3% of the picks in first 2 rounds are center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Good contract and they have a player who can at least be depth for center or guard. I don’t know if this means they won’t draft a center but it might mean they won’t use one of the top picks on one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 3 hours ago, football guy said: The Jets had nothing against McGovern, but early on the word was they were going in a different direction because they wanted to add a player with more of a nasty, "enforcer" mentality at C. This makes sense now. Jets have him under contract for pennies pre-draft; waiting until after the draft could've resulted in demand for him increasing due to increased demand. If the Jets don't land a C early in the draft they'll have him compete to start with Schweitzer and Colon. They could still consider signing Ben Jones as well. If they do land a C early the same applies- they'll have an open competition, and whoever loses out would likely get traded/cut. If McGovern were to stick he could still provide valuable depth as a backup C/G. Simply put: this does not change their draft strategy. If Tippmann is there at 43, still think he's the pick. @T0mShane ead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 This is a great price for a guy that could 100% start at C for us. Even if we get a guy like JMS, that’s still a great number for a backup C/G. Nicely done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Dcat said: Take a center in the 2nd round, like most of the guys above, that can anchor this line for a decade. I'll be happy with any of the 4 Big Ten from Minnesota, Ohio St, Wisconsin, even Michigan. Or get Scruggs from Penn St later. I want a center for the Jet OL that will lead the team.. If I am building a team for sustainable success, and my starting C is CM at ~$2mm, I am certainly looking to upgrade the Center position, and if one of the Big 10 Centers are available at 43 that clearly could be the pick. The problem is that, at the current moment, the Jets have a decent center, and have some other guys who can compete. I don't know who is playing FS, and we need LBs and DTs. At this point in time the Jets are trying to win it all now. So, I can see hole-filling being the priority, at least in Rd 2. 39 minutes ago, BurntDice said: the average center makes 6 mil or less. You aren’t benefiting cap wise from first or 2nd round centers Breece Hall's average cap cost is around $2.2mm/year, still cheaper than the average decent C. Jeremy Ruckert (4th round pick) is around $1.1mm/year. If we found a replacement C in the 4th round, that would be really good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 They are paying McGovern back up money. I fully expect a C to be taken in the draft and for McGovern to become the primary back-up at C and G. It really is an incredibly cheap insurance policy in the event Tomlinson craps the bed again and/or the rookie C has some hiccups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 7 hours ago, Warfish said: Nice. I'm less unhappy about the signing seeing that deal/cost. That's backup money. Now JD just needs to draft us a legit Center. Can't really be unhappy about any starter at that cost. Also agree, JD draft a future center. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 4 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: If only we possessed some sort of device for finding this information 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 3 hours ago, football guy said: This makes sense now. Jets have him under contract for pennies pre-draft; waiting until after the draft could've resulted in demand for him increasing due to increased demand. Truer words were never spoken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, JiF said: @T0mShane ead READ THE POST BUDDY. THEY GAVE A GUY $2 MILLION BUCKS AND THEY STILL MIGHT SIGN BEN JONES AND SPEND A TWO ON HIS IMMEDIATE REPLACEMENT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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