UntouchableCrew Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, slats said: Even with Rodgers, it would’ve been disappointing if the offense had the better day today. The defense is in its third year in the same system, coming off a great year. On offense, everything is new. This is 100% true. Of course, every season for twenty years we make excuses for why the defense is whipping the offenses’ ass. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 57 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Lay off the energy drinks Sarge.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonable Jets Fan Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Beerfish said: totally lame excuse. You generate turnovers, if you cover well, if you rush the passer and actually get to the QB instead of almost get to him, if you generate fumbles you get turnovers. It's a skill and the jets have been poor at it. I completely disagree... Most turnovers happen on passing plays... You eliminate them.. Or limit risk and you limit opportunities. It's not hard to understand... You are just being negative because that's the platform you feel the need to stand on... But you can have opinions on both sides. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, Reasonable Jets Fan said: I completely disagree... Most turnovers happen on passing plays... You eliminate them.. Or limit risk and you limit opportunities. It's not hard to understand... You are just being negative because that's the platform you feel the need to stand on... But you can have opinions on both sides. The jets were in a LOT of close games down the stretch and they generated one................ONE turnover in their last 6 game dive. SF with brock purdy generated 20 in their last 7 games. "Oh we only generate turnovers when we are up by 17 in the 4th quarter". Lame excuse. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 For today's report and in advance for the rest of your work from Jets camp KRL I would like to offer my heartfelt thanks. UDAMan !!! keep up the good work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, KRL said: [A]s practice ended Rodgers was "holding court" with his receivers and was very demonstrative Good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #27TheDominator Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The jets were in a LOT of close games down the stretch and they generated one................ONE turnover in their last 6 game dive. SF with brock purdy generated 20 in their last 7 games. "Oh we only generate turnovers when we are up by 17 in the 4th quarter". Lame excuse. We have had this fight before. I get the concern, but we were in close games because teams literally knew we couldn't score. They weren't going to take too many risks. Teams could just wait until we ****ed up on punt return and the game is over. Bringing up the Niners seems a bit unfair. Brock Purdy is no stud, but he is considerably better than what we were trotting out there. They averaged over 30 points during that stretch and only got 13 in a shut out of New Orleans. They were ahead at the half in EVERY single one of those games. I think they were also the #1 team in football in turnovers. I know they were #1 in INT. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RedBeardedSavage Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The jets were in a LOT of close games down the stretch and they generated one................ONE turnover in their last 6 game dive. SF with brock purdy generated 20 in their last 7 games. "Oh we only generate turnovers when we are up by 17 in the 4th quarter". Lame excuse. SF forced 30 total this past year. The 49ers only forced 20 the year before. Also, Heinecke, Dalton, David Blough and Jarrett Stidham were 4 of the QB's the 49er's faced down the stretch out of those seven games. I'd like us to force more turnovers as well, but I think a competent offense will help put opponents into more passing situations (something the 49ers had with Brock Purdy, Shanahan, Deebo, Kittle, CMC etc) and I think our d-line will improve upon last season (so long as Q stays healthy). Lawson is two years removed from ACL injury, year 2 for JJ II and Clem, the emergence of Huff, JFM is solid AF and the wildcard situational rusher/depth player in McDonald. I think there is genuine reason for optimism here when it comes to forcing more turnovers in '23 than '22. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 We were in alot of close games because of the defense. With better support and maybe a couple of leads we could have forced more turnovers. the defense was left hanging most games 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The jets were in a LOT of close games down the stretch and they generated one................ONE turnover in their last 6 game dive. SF with brock purdy generated 20 in their last 7 games. "Oh we only generate turnovers when we are up by 17 in the 4th quarter". Lame excuse. Do you think teams take more chances when they're playing with a lead or from behind? How about as you get closer to the end of the game? Do teams losing have to press more as the game gets closer to the end and they're behind? Do teams that are ahead change their plan and run the ball more? Is that called "protect the lead"? I wonder why that is? This is just super obvious stuff. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonable Jets Fan Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The jets were in a LOT of close games down the stretch and they generated one................ONE turnover in their last 6 game dive. SF with brock purdy generated 20 in their last 7 games. "Oh we only generate turnovers when we are up by 17 in the 4th quarter". Lame excuse. Sf scored points with Purdy how many did the Jets offense score in the last 7 games... 1 td? Come on dude your arguments are weak and don't hold water I understand, you hate the coaching staff... We get it... Try to hold on to the other arguments that actually make sense 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecuadorian Jet Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, KRL said: Jarrick Bernard-Converse had a walking boot on sarcastic: "Who?" Of course I know who he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: The thing that is keeping our D from being elite at this point is turnover creation. We will be tested in some areas though as smart teams will attack our couple of weak spots (linebacker and safety) We will see if our D coaches can find ways to protect those positions from being exploited. Having an offense that isn’t constantly 3 and out will keep our defense fresher and give the other team less chances with the ball. If we can start getting turnovers too, that would be something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 49 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The jets were in a LOT of close games down the stretch and they generated one................ONE turnover in their last 6 game dive. SF with brock purdy generated 20 in their last 7 games. "Oh we only generate turnovers when we are up by 17 in the 4th quarter". Lame excuse. bro, if you cant see that opposing offenses played not to lose games to us last year, that is just you turning a blind eye to it. our offense wasnt beating anyone! all our opponents offense had to do was not lose the game. there, i broke it down for you like a you are a toddler. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, KRL said: General Notes - Practice ran 2 hours - Since its early in camp players were in jerseys, shorts and "shock absorber" helmets for the offensive & defensive linemen - Credit to Woody Johnson for upgrading the seating for the fans. Now instead of bleachers there are actual seats and he added "roofs" to each stand to shield people from the sun - Change in the opening exercise period. Now instead of everyone doing the same warmups they break out into position groups and work on "body areas" specific to their position - Players auditioning for the returner spot were Mecole Hardman, TJ Luther and Garrett Wilson which was surprising. We'll see how long that lasts - The media is funny!!! After the opening exercise period Aaron Rodgers and the rest of QBs went to a far field and threw against "air". The entire media got up and walked over 100 yards to watch/film. I couldn't believe it Defense - The defense won the day as the secondary was airtight which allowed the DLine to get pressure up front. They shut down all deep and intermediate routes which forced the offense into "short stuff". There was a ton of "whooping" on the defensive sideline all day - Carl Lawson, Michael Clemons, Bryce Huff and Will McDonald were impressive coming off the edges - Jamien Sherwood showed impressive range covering and closing any receivers in his area - Michael Carter had an outstanding day, particularly impressive was his breakup of a quick slant from Rodgers to Hardman Offense - The offense was "choppy" with the following mistakes * False start penalty by Alijah Vera-Tucker * Bad center exchange between Connor McGovern and Rodgers * Bad communication during a Zach Wilson rep which caused Nate Hackett to drop some "colorful language" and make them re-huddle - I will give credit to Hackett for changing up his play calls as the defense clamped down. He started to call more "smoke screens", "quick outs" and screens to get the offense moving - Israel Abanikanda broke a screen for a 20+ yarder, which may have been the "sexiest" play the offense had all day QB - Aaron Rodgers didn't have any "sexy" plays due to the defense. So he took what he was given and worked the short area. I believe his longest completion was to Tyler Conklin for about 15 yards. But you saw his "mind" in action to get Garrett Wilson the ball. On this rep Wilson was lined up in the slot on the right, Rodgers put him in motion to the left and then brought him back. And then as Wilson got outside of the OT the ball was snapped and Wilson was wide open for an easy completion. - Zach Wilson wasn't markedly improved as he skipped one short pass to a receiver and had the previous mentioned bad communication rep Standouts - The defense Concerns - It will be interesting to see how the offense bounces back over the next couple of days. Because as practice ended Rodgers was "holding court" with his receivers and was very demonstrative All I'm reading is Zach was awesome! Good report! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said: This is 100% true. Of course, every season for twenty years we make excuses for why the defense is whipping the offenses’ ass. The worst part about this is the defense usually sucks when they start playing other teams so we don't even have that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, KRL said: Zach Wilson wasn't markedly improved as he skipped one short pass to a receiver and had the previous mentioned bad communication rep Shocking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 thanks @KRL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said: This is 100% true. Of course, every season for twenty years we make excuses for why the defense is whipping the offenses’ ass. True, but this early the defense is supposed to be whipping the offenses ass. This is defense time and we don't even have many of those little quick receivers that look so good in shorts. It should even out as time goes on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Happy to see that Becton and AVT were not placed on the PUP list. That just leaves Breece, and honestly I'll be glad to see them bring him along slowly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 So wait .. serious... Good or bad day for the no. 2 QB ?Read the KRL report seemed like a bad day ... But then Jimmy is saying it was actually a good day .. what's the real picture??Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 hours ago, KRL said: A couple of other things: - I didn't see Duane Brown at practice - Becton is in unbelievable shape and most promising is he's only wearing a stability brace on his knee Great to hear about Becton. The OL will be so much better if he can play and play well. After practice Coach mentioned that Brown was excused from practice for personal reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Bowles Movement said: Having an offense that isn’t constantly 3 and out will keep our defense fresher and give the other team less chances with the ball. If we can start getting turnovers too, that would be something. This is a huge point. A player from Tampa bay was talking about the impact on the defense when Brady got there and he said going from playing 65 plays a game to 40, the defense was fresher and better. The Rodgers effect should be similar 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Looking forward to seeing how skinny Becton fares vs. Lawson. Fat Becton was no contest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 37 minutes ago, fullblast said: Happy to see that Becton and AVT were not placed on the PUP list. That just leaves Breece, and honestly I'll be glad to see them bring him along slowly. they clocked breece at 23 mph today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 36 minutes ago, Dunnie said: So wait .. serious... Good or bad day for the no. 2 QB ? Read the KRL report seemed like a bad day ... But then Jimmy is saying it was actually a good day .. what's the real picture?? Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Thank you @KRL. Really enjoyed reading your TC summary. Did you notice if Michael Clemens clocked any of our QBs with his baseball bat? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Was CD84 out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 4 hours ago, JiF said: Oh man, you and Fido can be brother in arms. The WR is deep. Deepest I can remember on the Jets and possibly the deepest in Rodgers career, I think that's exciting. I will slap the stupid right out of your mouth. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I will slap the stupid right out of your mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Integrity28 said: Yeah, agreed. Plus, the offense is Garrett and Rodgers. Nothing else to really be too excited about yet. I genuinely don’t think we brought in enough players for an all-in year. We’ll see… likely not a popular take. You and I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, whodeawhodat said: they clocked breece at 23 mph today Not sure it is as much about straight line speed as it is about quickness changing directions, especially after the injury he is recovering from but with that said I will take it as good news. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, Stark said: You and I agree. Get me a Mike Evans type WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, Stark said: Get me a Mike Evans type WR And a heavy running back just in case we ever get a lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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