Zach “reluctant” to start again at QB

[Integrity28]

1 hour ago, Plen T said:

Eli Manning refused to play for the Chargers

Peyton Manning refused to play for the Jets

fragile or brilliant?

Definitely an exact comparison.

 

[Rhg1084]

 

[Hex]

My opinion is that this looks bad on both parties. A player refusing the play is never a good thing, but it suggests that the Jets org is such a mess that their former starter has had it with the team.

And I have to say, if he did become starter next week, it isn't hard to imagine the uproar of "shoulda started Siemian" that would have come here. It seems to me Zach has a similar idea of who should be starting as all of you people calling him soft or an idiot.

Zach Wilson is garbage but a lot of you will call any decision he makes at this point bad. I wouldn't be surprised if he recognizes that the team dislikes the fact that he keeps getting sent out there, and wants to be done with that. Honestly this reluctance he is showing (not refusal, by the way) might be the best thing that he could do for the franchise at this point. He's effectively calling out the CS and front office, and isn't that what we want?

It seems to me like the CS just lost the one person they have coddled for 3 years, what does that say about the rest of the locker room?

[PS17]

Zach is a bitch. Has that been mentioned yet?

[Plen T]

5 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Why? He did not even want to play when he was playing. He's checked out on this team and doesn't want to go out there at all 

you came to this conclusion as he dived head first for touchdowns?

[Joe W. Namath]

Zach is going to end up in 1 of 3 places:

Rams, Niners or Broncos.  One of those offensive gurus would love the opp to mold a kid with that kind of talent.

I am sure his agent has already spoken to those teams and has been advised, "Do not take another snap for the Jets". 

[oatmeal]

No question about it, we have complete nuckle dragging idiots running this franchise. 
 

Not long before we here reports of Saleh and JD throwing hands down at one jets drive 

[Esquire]

1 hour ago, Jdeet said:

Who can blame him? He’s bad but the last two weeks prove that he wasn’t the main problem. Why would he risk injury to whatever future he has with another team, to try to win for a team that’s shot and a fanbase that hates him?   

Call him whatever you want, he is smart by not wanting to go back into this mess. 

The  crazy part is that if he starts next week against the Texans, plays well in a win, the fans that hate him will welcome him back with open arms. 

[Jdeet]

1 minute ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

It would be absolutely shocking, if "sources" weren't providing reliable information.

[dbatesman]

2 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

sweet merciful crap

[TuscanyTile2]

2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Zach is going to end up in 1 of 3 places:

Rams, Niners or Broncos.  One of those offensive gurus would love the opp to mold a kid with that kind of talent.

I am sure his agent has already spoken to those teams and has been advised, "Do not take another snap for the Jets". 

I think the Steelers would make sense too.  A HOF HC who has been winning with Kenny Pickett.

[oatmeal]

4 minutes ago, Hex said:

My opinion is that this looks bad on both parties. A player refusing the play is never a good thing, but it suggests that the Jets org is such a mess that their former starter has had it with the team.

And I have to say, if he did become starter next week, it isn't hard to imagine the uproar of "shoulda started Siemian" that would have come here. It seems to me Zach has a similar idea of who should be starting as all of you people calling him soft or an idiot.

Zach Wilson is garbage but a lot of you will call any decision he makes at this point bad. I wouldn't be surprised if he recognizes that the team dislikes the fact that he keeps getting sent out there, and wants to be done with that. Honestly this reluctance he is showing (not refusal, by the way) might be the best thing that he could do for the franchise at this point. He's effectively calling out the CS and front office, and isn't that what we want?

It seems to me like the CS just lost the one person they have coddled for 3 years, what does that say about the rest of the locker room?

This

Saleh has been looking and speaking like a dead man walking, wouldn’t be surprised woody gave all these clowns their walking papers.
 

The noise is only going to get louder, toooooo many weeks remaining in the season 

[UntouchableCrew]

2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Zach is going to end up in 1 of 3 places:

Rams, Niners or Broncos.  One of those offensive gurus would love the opp to mold a kid with that kind of talent.

I am sure his agent has already spoken to those teams and has been advised, "Do not take another snap for the Jets". 

Yes, I'm sure those orgs are tampering to make sure they can win the "Zach Wilson Sweepstakes" next year.

[Esquire]

2 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

Of course he would.  There's something sketchy about this reporting.  There is a missing fact we aren't aware of yet.

[Beerfish]

Is our GM even awake?  Like this is a rudderless ship it seems.

[Hex]

1 minute ago, Jdeet said:

It would be absolutely shocking, if "sources" weren't providing reliable information.

"Sources" said he was reluctant, not refusing.

[slimjasi]

2 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

What does that mean? 
 

when the coaches make a QB change, they presumably say something like “Zach, we’re giving you the nod again this week - you’re starting against Houston.” 
 

is that direct enough? 

[#27TheDominator]

Just now, Joe W. Namath said:

Zach is going to end up in 1 of 3 places:

Rams, Niners or Broncos.  One of those offensive gurus would love the opp to mold a kid with that kind of talent.

I am sure his agent has already spoken to those teams and has been advised, "Do not take another snap for the Jets". 

Can you please provide proof?  I would like to get the draft picks for the tampering. 

I am glad you put the Rams first on that list.  I am sure that Mike LaFleur is whispering all kinds of sweet nothings in their ears about Zach!  Remember that kid that got me fired?  He might be available!!

[sciond]

Wait, the 60th rated QB in the NFL is reluctant to play?

[BloodGreen]

I hope he plays and they just let him air it out. Tell him not to worry about turnovers and just try to get GW a 200 yard game. Nothing to lose with that approach at this point.


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[bitonti]

4 minutes ago, Plen T said:

you came to this conclusion as he dived head first for touchdowns?

When was that? Preseason? 

Look at his last few starts you can see in his face he wants to be anywhere but here 

The guy is low character. No toughness. No love for the game. Like late stage Albert Haynesworth level bad. 

[Hex]

Just now, #27TheDominator said:

Can you please provide proof?  I would like to get the draft picks for the tampering. 

I am glad you put the Rams first on that list.  I am sure that Mike LaFleur is whispering all kinds of sweet nothings in their ears about Zach!  Remember that kid that got me fired?  He might be available!!

To be fair, MLF was pounding the table for Zach here (pretty sure, at least), and he was fired after the Jets lost 7 in a row and the offense couldn't get going with 2 or 3 other QBs. Who knows, maybe with McVay there MLF thinks he could get another shot at ZW. I'm just speculatin though, it does sound preposterous.

[slimjasi]

7 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Zach is going to end up in 1 of 3 places:

Rams, Niners or Broncos.  One of those offensive gurus would love the opp to mold a kid with that kind of talent.

I am sure his agent has already spoken to those teams and has been advised, "Do not take another snap for the Jets". 

Yea, I’m sure MLF will put in a good word for Zach with the Rams 

 

quality post

[bitonti]

2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Can you please provide proof?  I would like to get the draft picks for the tampering. 

I am glad you put the Rams first on that list.  I am sure that Mike LaFleur is whispering all kinds of sweet nothings in their ears about Zach!  Remember that kid that got me fired?  He might be available!!

The most Jets outcome for Zach is Andy Reid helping out a fellow cougar alum and rehabbing Zach over several years on the bench 

Then in year 9 or something he's actually decent and everyone says lol Jets 

[Biggs]

3 minutes ago, oatmeal said:

This

Saleh has been looking and speaking like a dead man walking, wouldn’t be surprised woody gave all these clowns their walking papers.
 

The noise is only going to get louder, toooooo many weeks remaining in the season 

I think he's already got a deal to run a major college program and has the cocktail napkin ready to hand in after the last game of the year.

[More Cowbell]

1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

I don't blame Zach.  He was scapegoated. Deactivated. Now they want him to risk injury for a franchise that thought he was the only problem.

How about fire Hackett first.

Zach was scapegoating?

[oatmeal]

I’m telling you JD and Saleh are going to physically fight each other before this ship completely implodes 

[Biggs]

1 minute ago, Hex said:

To be fair, MLF was pounding the table for Zach here (pretty sure, at least), and he was fired after the Jets lost 7 in a row and the offense couldn't get going with 2 or 3 other QBs. Who knows, maybe with McVay there MLF thinks he could get another shot at ZW. I'm just speculatin though, it does sound preposterous.

The Jets wanted to fire him so they could publicly have him walk the plank for last year.  They couldn't even pull that off.  

[rangerous]

this good and bad.  it's bad because no player should opt out of playing especially the qb.  however, in his defense, does anyone think he wants to play with free rushers coming through the oline and a lack of reliable receivers?  he's been blamed for just about every offensive problem and probably by the jets players and coaches.  it's good because it makes douglas' job much easier as to what to do with him next season.  they will most likely try to trade him but ultimately release him.  it's really unfortunate because the jets really needed something to go right after many years of mac and bad seasons

but one of the bigger questions is how saleh let this get so out of hand.  he did this. we know boyle is a bad qb and it looks like semian isn't much better.  but we've been told what a superstar breece hall is or how cook is a five time pro bowler, etc.  well just get up there and hand the ball off.  they got some big beef on the oline and they should be able to pancake some of the defenses.  at this point, does it even matter if they win again?

[joewilly12]

19 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Have you seen our supporting cast (which includes our OC)?  ZW has plenty of talent.  Unfortunately he plays for an organization that is a complete clusterfvck.

ZW and talent shouldn’t be in the same sentence…..

[Mogglez]

Breaking my hiatus to say that I respect Zach Wilson so hard for this move.

I, too, wish I could say ”Go f*ck yourselves” to Robert Saleh and Joe Douglas.

I hope Woody Johnson remembers this moment when contemplating what to do on “Black Monday.”

[NYJCAP2]

11 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Zach is going to end up in 1 of 3 places:

Rams, Niners or Broncos.  One of those offensive gurus would love the opp to mold a kid with that kind of talent.

I am sure his agent has already spoken to those teams and has been advised, "Do not take another snap for the Jets". 

Back up in Denver sounds about right.

Add more stink to the Hackett fire. 

Close to home.

[Biggs]

1 minute ago, joewilly12 said:

ZW and talent shouldn’t be in the same sentence…..

High ceiling and apparently his floor is well above Boyle and Siemian. 

[Hex]

2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

ZW and talent shouldn’t be in the same sentence…..

Wrong. Zach Wilson and skill shouldn't be in the same sentence. Zach has a ton of talent but failed to channel it into something productive. Talent is useless without skill.

[TuscanyTile2]

Zach, remember when we benched you a couple of weeks ago for Tim Boyle, essentially signaling that the franchise has completely lost faith in you?

And remember when I publicly embarrassed you by telling Joe Benigno (who I knew would re-tell the story), "regarding point number 3, Joe B, are you serious?"

Well, now we need you to go in again and be our starter for the final 5 games.  We even purchased some extra scotch tape to hold the OL together so you don't risk injury!

So how does this all sound to you?  You ready to get back in there?