Aaron Rodgers is a ridiculous bargain - Good news during our current Jets hell

[Jdeet]

Aaron Rodgers saying he is coming back for 2 more years - at 75% of what he was, he still brings us to the playoffs, if we draft a tackle and sign a couple of decent free agents. 

Say what you want about the guy, and I know he is 40 years old, but he was nearly ready to play, 3 months after having an achilles tear, and even at 75%, probably our best QB since Namath. 

Aaron Rodgers Cap number 2024- $17 million   2025 - $23 million

Lets compare him to other QBs in the NFL - Obviously some will get restructured - But still - 

 

Daniel Jones Cap number  2024 - $47 million  2025 - $41 million 

Derek Carr Cap number  2024 - $35 million - 2025 - $45 million

Matthew Stafford Cap number 2024 - $49 million  2025 - $50 million

Russell Wilson Cap number  2024 - $35 million  2025 - $55 million 

Kyler Murray Cap number 2024 - $51 million  2025 - $45 million

Dak Prescott Cap number 2024 - $59 million -  2025 - $36 million

Josh Allen Cap number  2024 - $47 million -  2025 - $56 million

Jimmy Garoppolo Cap number 2024 - $28 million - 2025 - $28 million

Joe Burrow Cap number 2024 - $29 million  2025 - $46 million

Deshaun Watson Cap number 2024 - $64 million - 2025 - $64 million

 

There is hope. 

[GangGreened]

75% of the player we saw in 2022.. might be good enough to make the playoffs.

The whole thing is going to crash and burn next year though. Fairly confident in that.

[The Crusher]

At 4 plays per season what does that equal per play?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BigRy56]

Nope. Nope. Pure evil is what that man is

[Jdeet]

3 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

At 4 plays per season what does that equal per play?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe read what I said - Not what you think I said. This year is over. Or stay in hell, your choice. 

[jeremy2020]

1 minute ago, Jdeet said:

Maybe read what I said - Not what you think I said. This year is over. Or stay in hell, your choice. 

uhh.. Francis..

[JustInFudge]

WE ARE BACK, BABY!!!!!!!!!!!

[Corn]

Thanks for the info and the positivity.

Its ridiculous what they're paying so many average quarterbacks.

[mrcoops]

He is a bargain right now. Will be less of a bargain after 2025, when he has a cap number of $63M and probably won't be on the team.

We'll be paying the cap price for Rodgers until 2028, so we'd better hope these next two seasons make it all worth it.

[doitny]

20 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

Aaron Rodgers saying he is coming back for 2 more years - at 75% of what he was, he still brings us to the playoffs, if we draft a tackle and sign a couple of decent free agents. 

Say what you want about the guy, and I know he is 40 years old, but he was nearly ready to play, 3 months after having an achilles tear, and even at 75%, probably our best QB since Namath. 

Aaron Rodgers Cap number 2024- $17 million   2025 - $23 million

Lets compare him to other QBs in the NFL - Obviously some will get restructured - But still - 

 

Daniel Jones Cap number  2024 - $47 million  2025 - $41 million 

Derek Carr Cap number  2024 - $35 million - 2025 - $45 million

Matthew Stafford Cap number 2024 - $49 million  2025 - $50 million

Russell Wilson Cap number  2024 - $35 million  2025 - $55 million 

Kyler Murray Cap number 2024 - $51 million  2025 - $45 million

Dak Prescott Cap number 2024 - $59 million -  2025 - $36 million

Josh Allen Cap number  2024 - $47 million -  2025 - $56 million

Jimmy Garoppolo Cap number 2024 - $28 million - 2025 - $28 million

Joe Burrow Cap number 2024 - $29 million  2025 - $46 million

Deshaun Watson Cap number 2024 - $64 million - 2025 - $64 million

 

There is hope. 

according to spotrac his cap hit for 2025 is 51 million

[oatmeal]

Only jets fan believe drafting a rookie tackle and a JD offseason = Jets superbowl 

Its like we watch 2 different sports 

[Lupz27]

21 minutes ago, GangGreened said:

75% of the player we saw in 2022.. might be good enough to make the playoffs.

The whole thing is going to crash and burn next year though. Fairly confident in that.

When was the last time a Jets season didn’t eventually crash and burn?

[GangGreened]

Just now, Lupz27 said:

When was the last time a Jets season didn’t eventually crash and burn?

Exactly 

[David Harris]

I know we are all in a sour mood but AR did everything he could for this team. He makes a bad GM, but handed back $37 million to compensate for Lazard, Cobb, Turner.  Also, it’s not his fault he got hurt. 
 

I’m ok with giving him another shot because what the hell else can I do. We suck no matter what. If someone is volunteering to be the savior then have at it. The alternative is to just suck another way so let’s try this way with AR.

[Joe W. Namath]

Soon, Jet fans will be done with whining about Douglas, Saleh and Hackett and accept the fact they are all coming back.

We will all be talking Super bowl come August.

Get ready jet fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CrazyCarl40]

Can’t just count his contract though. You gotta add in Cobb and Lazard and Cook and Boyle and whomever else he wanted in his dog and pony show. 

[slimjasi]

IF he’s healthy and still playing like Aaron Rodgers at age 40 - yes, he’s a great bargain. 

IF

 

[The Crusher]

38 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

Maybe read what I said - Not what you think I said. This year is over. Or stay in hell, your choice. 

I did and it doesn’t change the fact he played 4 games this year, if he can finish an entire game next year I might start believing it a bit. Until then…..?

[Sperm Edwards]

He's $35MM/year x 3 years. Move it around however much you want, but that's how much it is. They can push more of his off to the future, or more of others' hits off to the future, but everything they pay him has to come off.

It could feel like slightly less than that by pushing it off to later, when the cap ceiling is higher (i.e. $35MM will feel like a bigger cap hit in 2023 than it'd feel in 2026), but over this short of a span that won't be a game-changer amount even with some large ceiling increases, unless it goes up in line with the highest estimates, but here it says at least next year's head start on that won't be as aggressive as previously thought (est. $242MM vs previously anticipated $250-255MM). 

But a given year's cap hit is not rigidly relevant. Watson's hit will probably be lowered from $63MM next year, for example, just like they did with him this year. Eventually it'll hit their cap if they paid it to him in dollars, and since it's guaranteed they will be paying it to him in dollars, unless he gets into even bigger trouble again.

[Bronx]

[dbatesman]

Probably the best NFL trade of the decade, when you think about it

[Ghost]

I would make that trade 100 times over. Rodgers is not the issue. The issue is management, coaching, play calling, and the offensive line. 

[CanadienJetsFan]

2 minutes ago, Ghost said:

I would make that trade 100 times over. Rodgers is not the issue. The issue is management, coaching, play calling, and the offensive line. 

Hi Achilles was the issue.

[FidelioJet]

1 hour ago, GangGreened said:

75% of the player we saw in 2022.. might be good enough to make the playoffs.

The whole thing is going to crash and burn next year though. Fairly confident in that.

Of course.

Rodgers was the 17th ranked QB in the NFL the last time he played.  Anyone thinks he's going to be better two years later in his 41st year is insane.

He'll be better than what we had but will be a middle of the pack QB - that will likely keep us in the playoff race for a while but we'll have no real shot at a championship.

Next year is far more likely to be very ugly than it is to end up with a trip to the playoffs..

[Beerfish]

One of our cap experts has to tell me if he is a bargain for the totality of his contract before I think that.  In any contract you can't just focus on the cheap part of the deal.

To this point getting Rodgers and all that went with it is one of the worst moves this team has ever made.   If he does not come back for two pro bowl level years then the move is a big fat uber fail.

[Ghost]

7 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said:

Hi Achilles was the issue.

100%. But does Rodgers make make Mekhi a better tackle or Tomlinson a better guard or the entire line? Does he allow McDonald to contribute? Does he improve the poor coaching? The poor management free agent signings like Lawson, Tomlinson, Lazard, CJ Uzomah? 
 

JD and Saleh have failed miserably at their positions.

[FidelioJet]

To date the Rodgers move has been an unmitigated disaster.

Next year or even if he comes back for a 3rd would have to be a truly special season for this to translate to anything but an absolute horrible trade.

[talonmm]

33 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Probably the best NFL trade of the decade, when you think about it

You mean better than the time we traded Jamal Adams?

[talonmm]

The cost to have Aaron Rodgers is like when you get a bargain at the supermarket on a food item that is about to expire because it's getting old and may not be as fresh as it was when it was newer.

[dbatesman]

36 minutes ago, Ghost said:

I would make that trade 100 times over. Rodgers is not the issue. The issue is management, coaching, play calling, and the offensive line. 

 

22 minutes ago, Ghost said:

100%. But does Rodgers make make Mekhi a better tackle or Tomlinson a better guard or the entire line? Does he allow McDonald to contribute? Does he improve the poor coaching? The poor management free agent signings like Lawson, Tomlinson, Lazard, CJ Uzomah? 
 

JD and Saleh have failed miserably at their positions.

The Jets are just a quarterback away (if you don’t count all the other stuff we also have to fix)!

[jmat321]

i just hope he lobbies ownership about coaching changes.  

[GangGreened]

12 minutes ago, talonmm said:

The cost to have Aaron Rodgers is like when you get a bargain at the supermarket on a food item that is about to expire because it's getting old and may not be as fresh as it was when it was newer.

Still think Douglas overpaid massively. There was no other team. 

[Untouchable]

Dipsh*ts who want to get rid of Rodgers deserve to witness Zach Wilson signing a 10 year, Mahomes-esque extension.

This team hasn’t had more than two consecutive years of quality QB play since the f*cking moon landing, but let’s go ahead and toss away a Mount Rushmore QB because we want to minge on about Saleh, Douglas and Woody.

Rodgers is the only entity capable of making this work over the next 2-3 years.

If the Jets decided to blow it all up again, then if you’re getting up there in age like myself and plenty of others on the board…why remain interested in this sh*t? So you can sit through another hopeless 5 year rebuild that ultimately leads to the same thing?

Rodgers is the only reason I’m still interested

[rangerous]

16 hours ago, Jdeet said:

Aaron Rodgers saying he is coming back for 2 more years - at 75% of what he was, he still brings us to the playoffs, if we draft a tackle and sign a couple of decent free agents. 

Say what you want about the guy, and I know he is 40 years old, but he was nearly ready to play, 3 months after having an achilles tear, and even at 75%, probably our best QB since Namath. 

Aaron Rodgers Cap number 2024- $17 million   2025 - $23 million

Lets compare him to other QBs in the NFL - Obviously some will get restructured - But still - 

 

Daniel Jones Cap number  2024 - $47 million  2025 - $41 million 

Derek Carr Cap number  2024 - $35 million - 2025 - $45 million

Matthew Stafford Cap number 2024 - $49 million  2025 - $50 million

Russell Wilson Cap number  2024 - $35 million  2025 - $55 million 

Kyler Murray Cap number 2024 - $51 million  2025 - $45 million

Dak Prescott Cap number 2024 - $59 million -  2025 - $36 million

Josh Allen Cap number  2024 - $47 million -  2025 - $56 million

Jimmy Garoppolo Cap number 2024 - $28 million - 2025 - $28 million

Joe Burrow Cap number 2024 - $29 million  2025 - $46 million

Deshaun Watson Cap number 2024 - $64 million - 2025 - $64 million

 

There is hope. 

Assuming he plays the whole season or even most of it, the main thing Rodgers brings is on field leadership and accountability.  The whole thing for the future is to build a base for the current team.  We want guys like sauce, gWilson, Johnson, breece hall to want to play here and stay here.  That’ll come from winning and being prepared for each game.

[Biggs]

Rodgers dead cap hit in 25 is 49 million.  Daniel Jones 22 million.  Rodgers dead cap in 26 35 Million, Jones 11 million.  

Rodgers is 40 and has had serious injury 2 seasons in a row.  He's 15.4 million dollar cap hit this year was a bargain.  Of course he didn't play and the cheap money translated into bringing in a JAG WR, who was a former Rodgers guy and a JAG running back Cook who Rodgers wanted.  Not to mention we hired Hackett who is getting paid his HC salary from Denver with a small offset from the Jets.

Considering the cost of having Lazzard, Cook and Hackett as members of the Jets.  Subtraction by addition.  Rodgers is past his expiration date and we are gave away draft compensation, calling Rodgers a bargain is one of the most Jetsy takes I've ever heard.