OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 The Jets have the possibility of freeing up close to $5.5M by trading him. Even if he doesn’t have a market, the Jets will not keep him .. it’s simple addition by subtraction in cutting him versus keeping a guy who doesn’t have a spot in the short or long term rotation and who has lost the locker room and fans. His pay is guaranteed either way and their 3rd stringer will most likely be drafted (mid to late rounder). So the Jets will look for any trade that gets him off their roster and saves a couple million bucks even if they need to eat half the $5.5M to make the trade happen. Come on guys .. this is an easy one. The memo that the Jets have to win this year is out. Zach is no longer part of any equation for obvious reasons and JD & Saleh have careers to worry about… in 2024 and beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: I’m not sure why Wilson is getting permission to seek his own trade destination, but it’s starting to feel like his return for year 4 is inevitable, especially if he’s allowed to pick his spot. If the Jets don’t have control here, then the likeliest landing spot is either the 2 or the 3 QB in New York. My guess is the offers are so low that it really doesn’t matter who the jets trade with. Zach has been damaged over the past couple of seasons. The media sure didn’t help. Classic case of build em up to knock ‘em down. I also think that for whatever support saleh was spewing about Zach, in reality, he didn’t want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Zach's last complete game he was AFC offensive player of the week. He was injured next start and basically out for the season. My take on that Texans start was the reaction of many including pundits who'd ripped him all season. Overall he got credit for a good game and people not his haters seemed happy he did well. In other words most players and fans aren't rooting against him. Why should they. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 The best realistic outcome is the Jets move ZW for basically nothing to get his cap hit off the books. The more likely situation is the Jets have to pay a team to take him away. I don't see the team cutting him, eating his salary and then paying another backup. ZW may come back as a QB3. Woody can be a tough guy at the SB but he's cheap when it gets right down to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 He won’t be the QB2 even if he’s back, so I don’t really care at this point. Let him sit on the PS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 He won’t be back. The situation is untenable. I honestly think they attach an asset to dump his contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I really like the idea of trading for Sam Howell. It's better than picking a QB late in the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: Zero chance Zach is coming back. Getting traded or released is a still a question - but no chance he's a Jet next year. I honestly believe you would have a team revolt/ walkout if that guy is in this building ever again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 The market for Zach is a spectrum with two toggles-draft pick and compensation. A team can pay the Jets a 1-7th round draft pick. The Jets can pay a team a 1-7th round draft pick to take him. The Jets can agree to assume all but about $1mm of Zach’s salary. The Jets can keep Zach, pay him $5.5mm, and let his contract expire. They may get a comp pick in 2026. So I think practically, the Jets should take any deal that assumes at least $1mm of his salary. For maybe more than that, the Jets would PAY a draft pick. That $1mm would be used to sign QB2/3. If the Jets can’t get that bare minimum, I would keep him as. QB3. The Jets and Team Zach should be trying to generate a market to make that happen. I will repeat my two statements on the Jets QB room in 2024 I would not be investing a lot in QB2. Worst case scenario is AR8 is out 4 games and the hope is that QB2 can win two of them with a strong running/WCO game. If AR8 is out more than 4 games, all best are off. I personally think that Siemian and/or Zach could do that. Zach Wilson won almost half the games he started last year. He was OPOTW! Yes, when he was bad, he was high school QB bad. But he had some NFL quality moments. I am all for moving on from him, but let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water. I think off the bench, he can win 2/4, 2/5 games. He has statistically done that, even if his QB stats were horrible. But the bigger problem is that Hackett cannot come up with a game plan for ZW to win 40-50% of his games. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, Matt39 said: I do not have any notarized information to share, but it still seemed worthy. I’m sorry it bothers you. Every loser org has that one fan that will fight you to the death for that loser org Ours is @Jet Nut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 hours ago, Matt39 said: I’m not sure why Wilson is getting permission to seek his own trade destination, but it’s starting to feel like his return for year 4 is inevitable, especially if he’s allowed to pick his spot. If the Jets don’t have control here, then the likeliest landing spot is either the 2 or the 3 QB in New York. There is no way Zach is back with the Jets next season. None. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 hours ago, Matt39 said: but it’s starting to feel like his return for year 4 is inevitable, especially if he’s allowed to pick his spot. If the Jets don’t have control here, then the likeliest landing spot is either the 2 or the 3 QB in New York. The only way he returns is if he is the #3 QB, and not the #2. Bringing him back as the #2 QB is not an option for anyone, and it simply will not happen. I can't even imagine him as being the #3 option either. If the Jets best is to get a 7th round pick for him, then I take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 10 minutes ago, Alka said: The only way he returns is if he is the #3 QB, and not the #2. Bringing him back as the #2 QB is not an option for anyone, and it simply will not happen. I can't even imagine him as being the #3 option either. If the Jets best is to get a 7th round pick for him, then I take it. The issue at hand here is Zach is reportedly being given permission to seek his preferred team. Why? Who knows (unless he has a no trade clause that we don’t know about) but this is going to handcuff things if the Jets can’t make this deal on their own terms. If he’s back, I don’t see the Jets paying money for a big time backup. It will likely be a Simeien level player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I think his exit is set esp after Woody's recent remarks. Many times a team allows a player to attempt to make their own deal. Contact other teams etc esp when a player has low value. The final decision is on the Jets and probably is mostly dependent on money. If JD can get a conditional 3rd or 4th round pick he's made a good deal but that's doubtful. There's a real possibility they could just release him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 7 minutes ago, Matt39 said: The issue at hand here is Zach is reportedly being given permission to seek his preferred team. Why? Who knows (unless he has a no trade clause that we don’t know about) but this is going to handcuff things if the Jets can’t make this deal on their own terms. If he’s back, I don’t see the Jets paying money for a big time backup. It will likely be a Simeien level player. It’s as if douglas is allowing wilson to figure out for himself how little he’s valued around the nfl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 13 minutes ago, Matt39 said: The issue at hand here is Zach is reportedly being given permission to seek his preferred team. Why? Who knows (unless he has a no trade clause that we don’t know about) but this is going to handcuff things if the Jets can’t make this deal on their own terms. If he’s back, I don’t see the Jets paying money for a big time backup. It will likely be a Simeien level player. Because it’s probably the easiest way to trade him? It’s not like there’s some huge Zach Wilson market out there. If he can find a team willing to trade for him, then the Jets can work out the compensation. Joe Douglas has a lot of other work to do, too. Let Zach work the phones and find his own buyer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I’m not sure why Wilson is getting permission to seek his own trade destination, but it’s starting to feel like his return for year 4 is inevitable, especially if he’s allowed to pick his spot. If the Jets don’t have control here, then the likeliest landing spot is either the 2 or the 3 QB in New York.Breaking news! Thanks for this. I had no idea! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, slats said: Because it’s probably the easiest way to trade him? It’s not like there’s some huge Zach Wilson market out there. If he can find a team willing to trade for him, then the Jets can work out the compensation. Joe Douglas has a lot of other work to do, too. Let Zach work the phones and find his own buyer. This is why I think he’s back. Lack of market and guaranteed money with the Jets. Gets another year in a familiar setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 hours ago, Jet Nut said: So you’re saying it’s time for “free Zach Wilson” tee shirts? No, “Zach Wilson free” shirts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 14 minutes ago, Matt39 said: This is why I think he’s back. Lack of market and guaranteed money with the Jets. Gets another year in a familiar setting. Let’s recap: - Zach plays and is terrible (for the third year in a row, after they tried to replace him last season) - Saleh buries him behind the scenes and blames him for the teams failures - Zach is benched for sucking - Tim Boyle is so bad they turn back to Zach - Zach refuses to play - The Assistant GM leaks a story that Zach is a gutless coward who is quitting on his teammates - The Jets promise Zach they’ll trade him in the off-season - Zach reluctantly plays and has the best half off football of his career… - Before he takes a bunch of hits and basically fakes a concussion to get out of there a week later - Zach is MIA the rest of the season - Woody Johnson, speculated to be his biggest advocate all along, tells the media Zach sucking is what screwed the season and insists we need a real backup QB in 2024 There is zero chance he’s back. Assuming there’s no market for him we’ll likely trade him and a 5th for a 7th just to dump the salary. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Both him and the Jets agree he needs another team -hire Scott Boras Zach he will get you a deal hah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 trade him for a bag of potatoes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Zach Wilson is going to pass for 175 yards with one TD and no ints in a losing effort, and Jets fans will be like "see, it was the Jets holding him back the whole time." 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talonmm Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 It seems everybody affiliated with the Jets (Saleh, Woody, Rodgers, Zach Wilson) is a major decision maker. The only exception is Joe Douglas. Apparently - he's not the big dog, but rather a meek, little puppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Zach Wilson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 If the Jets get anything in a trade for Zach, it'll be a conditional 6th or 7th rounder. There's no way anyone will give up much for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 hours ago, oatmeal said: Every loser org has that one fan that will fight you to the death for that loser org Ours is @Jet Nut Who’s fighting anyone. Never mind the painful “to the death” part. Point out where I’m the one fighting anyone to death or shut up. You’re simple and tiring at this point. Again, put me on ignore and stop tagging me in your childlike posts. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 If he’s back he won’t be QB2. But it’s best to move on. We will more than likely cut him since i doubt we’ll have any suitors for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 11 hours ago, slats said: Because it’s probably the easiest way to trade him? It’s not like there’s some huge Zach Wilson market out there. If he can find a team willing to trade for him, then the Jets can work out the compensation. Joe Douglas has a lot of other work to do, too. Let Zach work the phones and find his own buyer. I heard Bart Scott on a Jets show talking about how early and how hard JD works to help facilitate trades and moves to other teams for players who don’t work out here. He said players on the team and around the league know it too and how much players are appreciative of GMs like that. EDIT: I get a thumbs down for repeating a story from an ex player that somehow Is wrong and on me? Does this fool do anything but neg rep smart people 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 56 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Better than whining when someone throws facts down. I’ve told you before son, disput what I said about this time last year and I’ll listen. Trying to make me into the only fan or trying to make what I wrote as being wrong is on you, just one more thing to bitch about without having to think. There’s going to be plenty of theJets were contenders with Rodgers a year ago talk. Why would I block you ? Me and you are like Batman and joker, we can’t exist without the conflict we bring to each other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 4 hours ago, Matt39 said: This is why I think he’s back. Lack of market and guaranteed money with the Jets. Gets another year in a familiar setting. He gets the guaranteed money whether he’s here or not. The familiar setting has not been good to him. A divorce is in the works, it’s just a matter of terms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 8 hours ago, T0mShane said: Zero chance Wilson is back next year. The one guy who’d have any interest in making that happen has already very publicly cast him out. Not sure what the rationale behind a “Zach returns” scenario would be from any angle. Zero, or less than zero? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Woody is an idiot. By trashing Wilson in public and saying he is gone that only negatively impacts his trading value and tells Zach he could likely be cut and be be able to sign where he wants and keep the Jets $5.5m. I can see Woody firing JD for that alone, the spoiled brat he is. That is why the Jets position to the NFL and Wilson is that they would like to trade him, but if they can’t they will keep him as QB3 in NJ. Let him rot. Wilson has to agree to a pay cut to go to the team he wants. The jets don’t need a draft pick. They need $5.5mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Zero, or less than zero?Wasn't there an entire thread dedicated to ...Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 This….this is the same exact report you posted like a week ago? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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