Barkus Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Forgetting an injury for the moment, in any game there are 3 scenario's of how it will unfold. 1) Jets win in a blow-out 2) Raiders win in a blow-out. 3) close game till the end. If #1 or 2 happen, there is a very good chance Hack plays on Sunday. I'd say the odds are pretty strong that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I think if Hackenberg is active again, the team will quit again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 hours ago, legler82 said: Their defense is not that good. Mack is the only one that consistently provide pressure. Last year that might have been the case ( lack of pass rush inside) but that isn't the case this year . With return of their best defense lineman( I consider Mack more a Lb) Mario Edwards Jr . The addition of two rookie DT's Eddie Vanderdoes,and Trayvon Hester . They have Bruce Irvin on the other side of K Mack -they should provide constant pressure on the Jets Qb. The Raiders defense is suspect . Their Lb's are terrible in coverage( all Te's abuse them) , and their secondary can be beat if you have the right receivers.( small shifty/ very fast Wr) Their first 2 picks ( G Conley and Obi Melfonwu have missed all of training camp with injuries ) and they were counting on both to shore up their defense. Probably won't see either till week eight. This might be the Jets best chance to have success on offense, as this Raider defense isn't anywhere close yet to being very good. With the offense they have, all they need the defense to be is average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 You forgot an option. A mutiny in the locker room because the players know that Petty is better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 hours ago, AFJF said: If Hack is the backup QB again, and McCown is knocked out of the game by Khalil Mack (or any other defender), how do you think Hack will look? Don't you think this is becoming an obsession with you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think if Hackenberg is active again, the team will quit again. ...and if Hackenberg is inactive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, Tinstar said: Don't you think this is becoming an obsession with you ? Far from it. I just like to get the pulse of the fan base from time to time rather than assume my opinion is in line with the majority. It seems most agree on this issue, which is pretty rare at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, AFJF said: Far from it. I just like to get the pulse of the fan base from time to time rather than assume my opinion is in line with the majority. It seems most agree on this issue, which is pretty rare at the moment. Why do you care if folks agree with you ? Is it that important to you to know that a bunch of barflies agree with your opinion . Have you picked out the tree Hackenberg will swing from once you gets these barflies all good and fired up for the hanging ? Is the job of backup QB on a lousy team of that importance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tinstar said: Why do you care if folks agree with you ? Is it that important to you to know that a bunch of barflies agree with your opinion . Have you picked out the tree Hackenberg will swing from once you gets these barflies all good and fired up for the hanging ? Is the job of backup QB on a lousy team of that importance ? Yes, the backup QBs on this lousy team are important because they are the only chance this season has of being even mildly interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I look forward to seeing Hack and/or Petty play this and get their shot. No need to sh*t on them before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, gEYno said: How much more complaining do the SOJF need to do until you fade away? Asking for a friend... Just 1 friend? I am disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, Tinstar said: Why do you care if folks agree with you ? Is it that important to you to know that a bunch of barflies agree with your opinion . Have you picked out the tree Hackenberg will swing from once you gets these barflies all good and fired up for the hanging ? Is the job of backup QB on a lousy team of that importance ? Oh, god no. We have a fair number of people who seem to think their opinions are unquestionably accurate. I'm the opposite of that. Sometimes I say stuff like, "Am I crazy, or is there a Jets related issue that most of us actually agree on"? Then I'll post a poll to see if I'm imagining it because I'm allowing my personal opinion to sway my perception, or if I'm actually getting an accurate read on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Tinstar said: Why do you care if folks agree with you ? Is it that important to you to know that a bunch of barflies agree with your opinion . Have you picked out the tree Hackenberg will swing from once you gets these barflies all good and fired up for the hanging ? Is the job of backup QB on a lousy team of that importance ? Barfliesojfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Watch his college tape...remember how he played after taking dozens of sacks? I would assume he plays the raiders like thatSent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 13 hours ago, T0mShane said: I think if Hackenberg is active again, the team will quit again. Mo's starting early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 15 hours ago, jbt said: who is the 3rd string QB? might need a 4th string Powell then Kerley I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 15 hours ago, AFJF said: We have a fair number of people who seem to think their opinions are unquestionably accurate. You've got it backwards. We're not always right. But you guys are always wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 17 hours ago, AFJF said: We have a fair number of people who seem to think their opinions are unquestionably accurate. I'm the opposite of that. We have a fair number of people who don't seem to understand the difference between uncertainty and subjectivity. There would be fewer opinions and fewer feelings about opinions if they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 This is going to be ugly regardless of who is QB'ing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 19 hours ago, RoadFan said: You forgot an option. A mutiny in the locker room because the players know that Petty is better... But...but...but Bowles would never let such a thing happen! He has proven himself to have control of the locker room over and over during his Jets tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 the early games are hard to gage. at times they did play okay at buffalo. but the raiders are a bona fide playoff team and they aren't likely to let a win slip by. they'll play hard so it will be a good test for the jets. a test they'll likely fail to win but at least they'll start finding out who the real players are. if wilk and/or mcclendon turn another performance like sunday's they should be benched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 14 hours ago, NYs Stepchild said: Powell then Kerley I think. how about vander laan? i'm not sure if they could activate him but at least he was a college qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 On 9/13/2017 at 2:15 PM, AFJF said: If Hack is the backup QB again, and McCown is knocked out of the game by Khalil Mack (or any other defender), how do you think Hack will look? Well a lot depends on the OL, WRs and RBs. If those 3 elements played spectacular, then he could have a good day. What is my level of confidence that will happen with a new offense, and weakness in all those areas against one of the best defenses in the NFL? Close to nil. It's a team fellas, you give Hack a dominating running game and wide open receivers and a clean pocket and he can look decent. Hack won't start till the Jacksonville, or Browns game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 20 touchdownsSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 On 9/13/2017 at 3:33 PM, jack48 said: I noticed "Dismemberment" was not amoong the choices. Did u? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 lol we needed a poll for this? hahahahahahahahaha which one of our QB's is gonna look good on sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Mac, be a man and cut Hack. Admit your mistake and move on. It is embarrassing that he is still on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 On 9/13/2017 at 2:26 PM, AFJF said: In fairness to Hack, I don't think he or Petty will stand a chance to do much against this defense. I know Brandon Shell has yet to allow a sack in his four pro starts, but Mack makes some of the best O-linemen in the NFL look like amateurs. I think he's gonna' have a field day against Shell and Beachum. If someone is rooting for Hack they should hope he doesn't play in this game. If someone is rooting for Petty they should hope he doesn't play in this game. If someone is rooting for McCown ... well nevermind lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 not for nothing but goff looked like dog doo during his few starts last season but on sunday he lit it up. i'm not saying that hack will have a similar turnaround but as he practices more and sees the game more he should do better. i think there should have been a caveat in the selections. do they relate to an average qb or to hack specifically? and, frankly, the way the rest of the offense has been playing they would make the best qb look very average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 On 9/13/2017 at 6:03 PM, Tinstar said: Why do you care if folks agree with you ? Is it that important to you to know that a bunch of barflies agree with your opinion . Have you picked out the tree Hackenberg will swing from once you gets these barflies all good and fired up for the hanging ? Is the job of backup QB on a lousy team of that importance ? I don't know about all the other stuff but yes our backups are both prospects on a team with a journeyman injury prone QB. We are planning to draft a QB early next year and it is pretty important that we know what we have. It's the 38 year old starter on a team that's going to win 1-3 games that's irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 1 hour ago, rangerous said: not for nothing but goff looked like dog doo during his few starts last season but on sunday he lit it up. i'm not saying that hack will have a similar turnaround but as he practices more and sees the game more he should do better. i think there should have been a caveat in the selections. do they relate to an average qb or to hack specifically? and, frankly, the way the rest of the offense has been playing they would make the best qb look very average. "Best chance to win the game." I was going to put exclamation points but that hardly sounds like Todd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 5 hours ago, Maxman said: If someone is rooting for Hack they should hope he doesn't play in this game. If someone is rooting for Petty they should hope he doesn't play in this game. If someone is rooting for McCown ... well nevermind lol. Yup. As much as I've advocated for Petty (and I still do), just watching how fast Buffalo's defense looked the other day, sometimes it takes going from pre-season to remember how much faster things get when the real games start. Petty would struggle, but he'd still be a much better option than Hack and mat not be much more of a dropoff from McCown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 On 9/13/2017 at 4:03 PM, JoJoTownsell1 said: Most real fans are fading away and allowing these knuckleheads to circle jerk each other in every thread bashing every Jet player and member of the organization. It's going to get worse as the season goes along. Who exactly are the good Jet players and members of this organization again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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