cant wait Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: And if you thought that three seasons of throwing the ball to the guy against a defense haven't done much to improve his ability to throw the ball to the guy against a defense, just wait until you see what he can do after two or three years of not throwing the ball to the guy against a defense. Playing behind the PSU offense was like playing against 2 defenses. but if you watch some of the film breakdowns he Hackenberg did show some improvement over the last two seasons even if the stats don't show it. still needs a ton of work but so does any player drafted on projection over pedigree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jett Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Release him. Lol just kidding people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Considering our last two blue chip QB prospects have looked great at OTAs in the past, this might actually be progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 1 hour ago, PatsFanTX said: Paxton Lynch is lighting it up for the Broncos. Lighting what up? Is he an electrician? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Villain The Foe said: Im not sure if its asinine. We all sit and wait for these reporters to tweet out every OTA. If this was about Geno being terrible that would have been taken as the gospel here. we know you can't take anything out of OTAs but fans run around crazy after a bad report or get excited after a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 21 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Considering our last two blue chip QB prospects have looked great at OTAs in the past, this might actually be progress. All Hackenberg should be working now is footwork and mechanics. it's confusing as to why Franklin had him switch his footwork from left to right when he took over but it certainly didn't help 2.) Footwork was a huge point of emphasis.Gruden first pointed out a quick out from Hackenberg to tight end Jesse James that went 46 yards for a go-ahead touchdown in a 2013 home loss to Nebraska. Hackenberg awkwardly rolled to his left on the play before delivering to James in the flat. "Your footwork right here needs a little work," Gruden said. "To the left, you look like you're a little confused with the footwork. ... Can we solve this mystery footwork here? Tell me what you're doing to your left. ... You're 18 years old, man. You look like you invented something. You might be on to something, Hackenberg." 3.) That footwork changed under James Franklin, Hackenberg said. Gruden later showed a series of plays, all from his freshman season, where Hackenberg trailed with his left foot in the shotgun. The next reel showed more recent footage of Hackenberg with his right foot back. "It was what I was asked to do, so I did it," Hackeberg said. "It was uncomfortable. Last bowl prep, I just went back to that, and they didn't say anything to me, so I just rolled with it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: If Lynch ends up being Ben Roethlisberger, I'm openly campaigning for the Jets to move to Vegas I'll make the box lunches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 I am glad he has looked like a "typical rookie". Only the morons in the media and the less intelligent posters on this board thought there was even a remote chance that he would start this year. As we have been saying forever, Mac is NOT going to make the same mistake Rex made and RUSH his project QB. There is absolutely no need to. He has a 4 year veteran who can back up or start and most likely will be signing Fitz to "manage" the team this year. All Hackenberg needs to concern himself with is getting better and preparing himself for next season. if Fitz is not signed and Geno goes down, it will be Petty's job. Only in the unlikely event that both of them get hurt should he ever see the field this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Lighting what up? Is he an electrician? No, a good QB that the Jets passed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said: No, a good QB that the Jets passed on. No they drafted a top 15 talent at Lb and then drafted a good QB in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 4 hours ago, Freemanm said: Sorry, can't cut and paste in my phone. I know this isn't a big deal, but hey, it's early June... http://larrybrownsports.com/football/christian-hackenberg-unimpressive-jets-otas/307154 Christian Hackenberg reportedly looking unimpressive at Jets OTAs June 5, 2016 by Grey Papke 1 Comment SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 17 minutes ago, JetBlue said: No they drafted a top 15 talent at Lb and then drafted a good QB in the 2nd round. The big issue is that there is such a monumental lack of evidence that Hackenburg is a good QB or has been one the last two years. As far as who screwed him up or why has become screwed up its unfortunate for him but totally irrelevant as to whether the is a good prospect or not. I guess we will see if he is fixable but you don't often draft a total project Qb in the 2nd. And like it or not the whole Hackenburg vs Lynch thing will go on for some time until one or the other looks like the better guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 No they drafted a top 15 talent at Lb and then drafted a good QB in the 2nd round. A shrimp LB and a QB who can't hit the side of a barn? Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 25 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: A shrimp LB and a QB who can't hit the side of a barn? Awesome. GFY and your beloved Pats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Villain The Foe said: Im not sure if its asinine. We all sit and wait for these reporters to tweet out every OTA. If this was about Geno being terrible that would have been taken as the gospel here. We all? LOL Also, the point on Geno... you may be right... last year OTA reports were that he looked good, and that he might be the starter, before he got face-punched. In fact, some guy has spent the better part of 3 months using that as the centerpiece of an argument for why Geno is not the QB we think he is. So, if that guy took OTAs as gospel last year, I guess it's possible people would do the same this year. Oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 27 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: A shrimp LB and a QB who can't hit the side of a barn? Awesome. You've gotten so lazy in your old age. All you're doing is nickel and diming the dummies, rather than going after the harder folks to troll... See now @jetrider, now this, THIS, is me being a hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Not really concerned right now, I think I'm more concerned about the issues facing Petty, since the reports so far indicate he hasn't improved a good deal since last year. When they say, he's a project pick, it's not a 2 month project, where suddenly the light bulbs go on and he's a stud. Not only do they have to deconstruct the issues that plagued him at PSU, they then have to build him back up again with proper mechanics. It takes some time. He has the arm talent, it's just a matter of harnessing the talent. In baseball, sometimes when teams pick a project pitcher (or hitter), they don't change anything for the first two months. They evaluate on a consistent basis what the guy can do (usually deals with mechanics such as foot placement or arm slots for pitchers, hitches and leg strides for hitters) to see what needs to be changed. So it is possible, they haven't really asked him to change anything yet, but are evaluating him to see what they can change in the future. The issue with Hackenberg is that, the best case scenario at this point would place him where he was at the end of his freshman year. Alas, he has to develop quite a bit to reach his potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, win4ever said: Not really concerned right now, I think I'm more concerned about the issues facing Petty, since the reports so far indicate he hasn't improved a good deal since last year. When they say, he's a project pick, it's not a 2 month project, where suddenly the light bulbs go on and he's a stud. Not only do they have to deconstruct the issues that plagued him at PSU, they then have to build him back up again with proper mechanics. It takes some time. He has the arm talent, it's just a matter of harnessing the talent. In baseball, sometimes when teams pick a project pitcher (or hitter), they don't change anything for the first two months. They evaluate on a consistent basis what the guy can do (usually deals with mechanics such as foot placement or arm slots for pitchers, hitches and leg strides for hitters) to see what needs to be changed. So it is possible, they haven't really asked him to change anything yet, but are evaluating him to see what they can change in the future. The issue with Hackenberg is that, the best case scenario at this point would place him where he was at the end of his freshman year. Alas, he has to develop quite a bit to reach his potential. Common sense and rationality are not welcome here. Only stupid quips and sophomoric humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 29 minutes ago, win4ever said: Not really concerned right now, I think I'm more concerned about the issues facing Petty, since the reports so far indicate he hasn't improved a good deal since last year. When they say, he's a project pick, it's not a 2 month project, where suddenly the light bulbs go on and he's a stud. Not only do they have to deconstruct the issues that plagued him at PSU, they then have to build him back up again with proper mechanics. It takes some time. He has the arm talent, it's just a matter of harnessing the talent. In baseball, sometimes when teams pick a project pitcher (or hitter), they don't change anything for the first two months. They evaluate on a consistent basis what the guy can do (usually deals with mechanics such as foot placement or arm slots for pitchers, hitches and leg strides for hitters) to see what needs to be changed. So it is possible, they haven't really asked him to change anything yet, but are evaluating him to see what they can change in the future. The issue with Hackenberg is that, the best case scenario at this point would place him where he was at the end of his freshman year. Alas, he has to develop quite a bit to reach his potential. Jets QB Bryce Petty showing signs of improvement 153SHARES SHARE TWEET EMAIL By: Connor Hughes | June 9, 2016 5:00 am ET Even Bryce Petty wasn’t very impressed with Bryce Petty during the Jets first couple OTA practices. Taking part in the first “team drills” of the season, the second-year quarterback was downright dreadful at times during the workouts open to the media. He missed throws high, low, left and right. He made poor decisions, many of which led to turnovers. Actually, dreadful may not be strong enough a word. But that was all before Wednesday. See, on Wednesday, while things weren’t perfect, they were. . . better. “I really feel like the last couple days I’ve come on strong,” Petty said by his locker. Taken by the Jets in the fourth round of last year’s draft, Petty was then, and still is now, viewed as a project player. From an athletic, work ethic and maturity standpoint, he’s got everything a franchise could ever want in a quarterback. But mentally? He’s just not there yet. Coming from an offense in Baylor that didn’t ask much from a quarterback regarding read progression, Petty needed to learn how to play quarterback before the Jets could expect him to play quarterback. His rookie season was largely focused on watching and observing, while this year is much more doing. With Ryan Fitzpatrick still unsigned, Petty is the Jets second-string quarterback behind Geno Smith. As a result, he’s getting every rep with the second-team. Early in OTAs, that didn’t appear to be a good thing as Petty struggled quite a bit. This week, though, things have taken a turn for the better. “I was struggling with certain types of looks as the defense started to put some things in there,” Petty said. “Really since last Thursday, I’ve gotten a couple of practices where, aside from a few inconsistencies, I feel pretty good. “I think I’m getting comfortable, one day at a time, getting better, getting in there and seeing things.” Again, Wednesday wasn’t perfect, but it was a good indication Petty is progressing, rather than regressing. The quarterback made several throws that earned not only the praise of the coaching staff, but quite a few butt-taps from his teammates. On one throw, Petty hit tight end Wes Saxton perfect in stride –splitting three defenders in zone coverage– just before Saxton went out of bounds. A series or two later, Petty put a perfect ball in the hands of wideout Jalin Marshall in the corner of the end zone. Although the wideout dropped it, the pass was still there. It’s little plays like that that are occurring more during these offseason workouts. And as they pop up more often, the negative plays are slowly disappearing. “Mentally, [he’s progressing],” Jets coach Todd Bowles said earlier this month. “We still got to see more and to see it in training camp, but again, he’s been in the system for a year, so he’s a little bit more comfortable this year than he was last year.” The biggest thing for Petty right now, more than anything else, is to continue to show he belongs. If Fitzpatrick comes back, the quarterback meeting starts to get a bit crowded. Fitzpatrick upon his return will be the Jets starter, followed by Smith as his backup and then Petty as third string. But behind Petty? This year’s second-round pick Christian Hackenberg. The Jets have made it known they aren’t against keeping four quarterbacks, but that situation still seems unlikely. If the team wants Smith as the backup, odds are Petty becomes the odd man out. But at least right now, that’s not on the quarterback’s mind. In fact, he’s not focusing on beating out Geno in a hypothetical, what-if positional battle. Instead, he wants to learn from him. “We’re pushing each other,” Petty said, “day in and day out. Every time we come in here he knows what I’m gonna give, and I know what he’s going to give. “We just gotta keep pushing each other and making each other better.” *** Connor Hughes covers the Jets and is the managing editor of Jets Wire.He can be reached on Twitter (@Connor_J_Hughes), or via email (chughes@usatoday.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 5 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: Paxton Lynch is lighting it up for the Broncos. Prepare his HOF trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 So, people are upset that after almost a whole 2 weeks of practice our project QB is still a project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Prepare his HOF trophy. 5 years from now Lynch will be a top 10 NFL QB. 5 years from now Hack will be playing in the CFL over-throwing wide open receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Snell41 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 I love reports like this. Not because they're even a bit informative. But because they instantly out the stupid fans that put any basis in them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 3 hours ago, JetBlue said: I am glad he has looked like a "typical rookie". Only the morons in the media and the less intelligent posters on this board thought there was even a remote chance that he would start this year. As we have been saying forever, Mac is NOT going to make the same mistake Rex made and RUSH his project QB. There is absolutely no need to. He has a 4 year veteran who can back up or start and most likely will be signing Fitz to "manage" the team this year. All Hackenberg needs to concern himself with is getting better and preparing himself for next season. if Fitz is not signed and Geno goes down, it will be Petty's job. Only in the unlikely event that both of them get hurt should he ever see the field this season. I agree but Hackenberg is going to be more than a 1 year project. I am trying to be optimistic about him but I feel he was a reach in the 2nd round. Maybe I Am still butt hurt about Mac passing on Lynch but Hack always threw high (I know footwork). He developed David Carr syndrome his last year in college when it was said that he was more concentrated on avoiding the rush then how the play was developing. I am concerned on how he will be when he has Von Miller Bearing down on him. I just hope they take their time with this kid because he has a lot of work to do and even more time to build up his confidence to play in the NFL. I'm rooting for the kid but just because he had one good year doesn't mean his is a franchise QB. I know he was 18 picking up Brady's offense. I am just worried he had more bad years than good. Go ahead fire away, just my option/ concern and it has nothing to do with the parasite's article . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Cimini is all I need to hear. What a hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 1 hour ago, PatsFanTX said: 5 years from now Lynch will be a top 10 NFL QB. 5 years from now Hack will be playing in the CFL over-throwing wide open receivers. Did you also predict a 6th round QB would be arguably the greatest QB of all time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 I wonder if hack has the same ceiling as Geno. If he does, the sky's the limit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 1 hour ago, PatsFanTX said: 5 years from now Lynch will be a top 10 NFL QB. 5 years from now Hack will be playing in the CFL over-throwing wide open receivers. LOL. OK Nostradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 LOL. OK Nostradamus Jets pass on Lynch and Elway trades up to grab him. Who do you think knows more about QB's, Elway or Mac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Integrity28 said: We all? LOL Also, the point on Geno... you may be right... last year OTA reports were that he looked good, and that he might be the starter, before he got face-punched. In fact, some guy has spent the better part of 3 months using that as the centerpiece of an argument for why Geno is not the QB we think he is. So, if that guy took OTAs as gospel last year, I guess it's possible people would do the same this year. Oh wait. Sure 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Just now, PatsFanTX said: Jets pass on Lynch and Elway trades up to grab him. Who do you think knows more about QB's, Elway or Mac? Didn't Elway also draft Tim Tebow in the 1st round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 6 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Actually according to Kubiak he's not. Wont stop idiots from trolling. It's hard to be this big of a dick Actually it's not that hard for some. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 19 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Didn't Elway also draft Tim Tebow in the 1st round? No, that was the braniac coach who insisted on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 24 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Didn't Elway also draft Tim Tebow in the 1st round? Elway wasn't even in his current position within the organization when Josh McDaniels made that move. In fact, it was Elway who shipped him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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