UnitedWhofans Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: You fell for the Ryan Fitzpatrick trick he's a BUM he always was and he always will be a BUM Then everyone fell for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Then everyone fell for it. No, not hardly "everyone" just because you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, phill1c said: No, not hardly "everyone" just because you did. Majority of fans and media did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Then everyone fell for it. Not me and many others. This is how I feel. Previous page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 10 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: SAR I I think Bowles is a goner this all but assures it he takes the fall for the 2016 season. Woody Johnson isn't a patient man he wants to at least make the playoffs the Jets have a lot of tickets to sell Or, perhaps, this is the signal of patience we have all been waiting for and Woody realizes that it's more important to develop a head coach than a sketchy quarterback. Look, if Bowles turns the culture around, gets a few wins, and makes the 1-5 start feel better with a 4-2 finish it helps us court free agents next year. Petty can be validated next preseason or regular season. There aren't any stud quarterbacks coming out, correct? So isn't it better to finish 4-2 and knock out the Bills and Dolphins to get a shot at Romo or Cutler (or offensive linemen or edge rushers or other areas of need) than to finish 2-4 and not know much because the rest of the team has quit around Petty?? SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 19 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Have you watched Bowles coach this year? Have you watched him stick with Fitz during games he should be benched? This is ALL Bowles. Woody may be on board, but don't kid yourself into thinking that Bowles wants Petty and is being forced to start Fitz. If the Jets had any Qb's better than Fitz, they wouldn't have re-signed Fitz. It's not Bowles' fault that these other QB's suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, SAR I said: Or, perhaps, this is the signal of patience we have all been waiting for and Woody realizes that it's more important to develop a head coach than a sketchy quarterback. Look, if Bowles turns the culture around, gets a few wins, and makes the 1-5 start feel better with a 4-2 finish it helps us court free agents next year. Petty can be validated next preseason or regular season. There aren't any stud quarterbacks coming out, correct? So isn't it better to finish 4-2 and knock out the Bills and Dolphins to get a shot at Romo or Cutler (or offensive linemen or edge rushers or other areas of need)? SAR I No this further pushes off the inevitable deep rebuild. Sick of 38 year old QB's every time we need a bandaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, bitonti said: If the Jets had any Qb's better than Fitz, they wouldn't have re-signed Fitz. It's not Bowles' fault that these other QB's suck. You are acting like he's the first HC to find himself with a crappy QB situation. Bowles is not entirely at fault for this season, but he has an obligation to do what is best for the organization. Starting Fitz is not the right move. Winning with Fitz would prove nothing since Fitz is gone at the end of the year. Is Fitz marginally better than Petty? Maybe, but don't kid yourself into thinking that there is some huge gap in ability between Fitz and Petty. There isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 19 minutes ago, bitonti said: Todd Bowles doesn't select the starting QB. Rex didn't either. This is a Woody call all the way. What would Woody's motivation be? You don't hear the fan base clamoring for Fitz's return? If anything, it seems as if the fan base is generally ready to see what the young guys have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 No surprise here with the Pats as this weeks opponent. After this weeks loss, the change will be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, NYJ37/12 said: No surprise here with the Pats as this weeks opponent. After this weeks loss, the change will be made. i was wondering this. maybe they're just protecting petty for 1 more game. if they're 3-8 they're definitely out of the playoffs and it's easier to justify a switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I like Bowles. I think he has the potential to be a good Head Coach. And I believe he deserves to be back next year to get a chance to fix things. I can't defend this move though. This is a terrible decision by him. It makes absolutely no sense. Starting to Fitz is the complete wrong move. Terrible, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 34 minutes ago, gEYno said: Can someone please explain to me, why is Bryce Petty on this football team? To keep Hackenberg no higher than #3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, Sperm Edwards said: To keep Hackenberg no higher than #3? and why is hackenberg here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, Sperm Edwards said: To keep Hackenberg no higher than #3? The current Jets QB situation is we have none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Majority of fans and media did And your point? Wrong is wrong no matter how many fools there are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Fire him, and fire him now. I usually don't support firing people unless they are completely incompetent before their contract runs out, but he has to go now. He is quite possibly the stupidest coach I've seen. He doesn't give away jobs? How about when Geno lost his job to a punch? God, how did we end up with this idiot? He's given the perfect opportunity to put in youngsters, but too dumb to see it. This isn't a win now move, we're not doing anything with Fitz, but it is horrible for team evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Starting Fitz...I won't be watching the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, phill1c said: And your point? Wrong is wrong no matter how many fools there are. But the fools have influence here. Cant be denied. Which is why I have ALWAYS said that the Jets would be better off moving somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 18 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: but if petty really sucks these last 6 games there's a decent shot he's not on the team next year. isn't that worth knowing now, rather than bring him back and pretend he's got a shot? there has to be a transition to a young guy at some point, and this regime is recoiling from throwing geno and sanchez in there too soon and they're taking the completely opposite approach. they're waiting for the great pumpkin to show up, the obvious, ominious sign the young guy should start. If we give the team to Petty now he's got a bunch of de-motivated malcontents playing for him and we will always be trailing and we will not learn anything. If we give the team to him (with all the malcontents cut) in July he gets a fresh start with guys who are playing hard. We can see with our own eyes that we have a poisonous locker room. It's a joke, but it does impact what becomes of Bowles and why Fitzpatrick would start. We need to restore order. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: i was wondering this. maybe they're just protecting petty for 1 more game. if they're 3-8 they're definitely out of the playoffs and it's easier to justify a switch. Seriously, Fitzpatrick is ranked near the bottom of the league in most QB statistical ratings. Does there need to be a reason beyond that? He's had 9 games to prove he sucks (plus the last game of last year). It's really unfathomable that we're even having this discussion...and that the Jets are contemplating keeping this loser under center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, SAR I said: If we give the team to Petty now he's got a bunch of de-motivated malcontents playing for him and we will always be trailing and we will not learn anything. If we give the team to him (with all the malcontents cut) in July he gets a fresh start with guys who are playing hard. SAR I i think it's now or never for him. i have a hunch hack passes him on the depth chart next TC. give hack another year in a pro offense and you'd think he'd at least be better than petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, phill1c said: Seriously, Fitzpatrick is ranked near the bottom of the league in most QB statistical ratings. Does there need to be a reason beyond that? He's had 9 games to prove he sucks (plus the last game of last year). It's really unfathomable that we're even having this discussion...and that the Jets are contemplating keeping this loser under center. maybe they just don't want petty to face BB. or maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: i was wondering this. maybe they're just protecting petty for 1 more game. if they're 3-8 they're definitely out of the playoffs and it's easier to justify a switch. plus, getting beat up by NE is no way to build confidence. I think the Jets are protecting Petty and the Jets from getting embarrassed by the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: I refuse to go to a home game until Fitzpatrick and Bowles are gone. Since you don't go to home games, that's not much of a give. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Bowles is comical at this point .. I'm not leading the fire Bowles crew.. but I can see why y'all want him out .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jett Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Selfishly I hate this move. I want petty to start because it gives me something to look forward to. But I actually do understand it. Realistically Fitz probably does give us a better shot. It's clear to me they do not see petty as part of this future, they see him every day, they know he stinks probably and that's why he barely got the nod over hack, HACK OF ALL PEOPLE. However, if we lose Sunday and they continue with Fitz? I will be furious because that just makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 ohhhh myyyy goodness............I don't get it. Is Petty that bad at practice?? If he is it brings up why did we draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 11 minutes ago, gEYno said: What would Woody's motivation be? You don't hear the fan base clamoring for Fitz's return? If anything, it seems as if the fan base is generally ready to see what the young guys have? Is this still a national game at 4:25? I think the likelihood of looking like horses asses rises if Petty were to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, bitonti said: If the Jets had any Qb's better than Fitz, they wouldn't have re-signed Fitz. It's not Bowles' fault that these other QB's suck. This is just a moronic argument, sorry, no disrespect. right now, by ratings, Petty is better than Fitzpatrick. And, my god, if his one mistake disqualifies him for starting than Fitzpatrick should be home eating ice cream three games ago. Jesu-Christo!! Fitzpatrick sucks worse than a nuclear-powered Electrolux. And the Jets are going to start him because...someone else MIGHT suck?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 44 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: He wants to save his job. Is this even the right choice to do that? How much worse could Petty possibly be than Fitz? He looked just as good as Fitz does this season against a tough Rams D in his 1st start ever, so why not give him another go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Hope Mac is already looking at coach replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jett Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Also, people need to stop putting this all on Bowles. Think for a second does anyone think that Mac and most likely woody didn't have a say in this either? Come on people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, jett said: Selfishly I hate this move. I want petty to start because it gives me something to look forward to. But I actually do understand it. Realistically Fitz probably does give us a better shot. It's clear to me they do not see petty as part of this future, they see him every day, they know he stinks probably and that's why he barely got the nod over hack, HACK OF ALL PEOPLE. However, if we lose Sunday and they continue with Fitz? I will be furious because that just makes no sense Could u tell me how does the league leader in interceptions gives us the best chance to win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, stoicsentry said: Is this even the right choice to do that? How much worse could Petty possibly be than Fitz? He looked just as good as Fitz does this season against a tough Rams D in his 1st start ever, so why not give him another go? So, to save your job, you go to guy who put your job in jeopardy?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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