Paradis Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 29 minutes ago, BCJet said: Allen is going in the first round, lets pray it isnt here but thats more likely then Mayfield or Jackson Why? I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, Warfish said: Eli goes to Jacksonville Cousins stays in DC Browns draft a QB (Darnold/Rosen) at #1 Giants draft a QB (Rosen/Darnold) at #2 San Francisco resigns Garoppolo (pick #3) and retains Bethard as the #2, drafts supporting player. Denver Broncos could draft a QB at pick #4. Who? No idea, Allen, Mayfield, Rudolph, Jackson, Finlay, Falk all available) Indianapolis Colts are unlikely to draft a QB at pick #5 (Luck) Chicago Bears are unlikely to draft a QB at pick #6 (Trubisky) Houston Texans are unlikely to draft a QB at pick #7 (Watson) Tampa Bay Buccaneers are unlikely to draft a QB at pick #8 (Winston) Arizona Cardinals are possible to draft a QB at pick #9 (Gabbart is the #1 right now). New York Jets at pick 10 could be looking at Darnold, Rosen, Rudolph and Jackson all being of the board. Rudolph getting hyped now, with a number of sites now ranking THEM #1 and #2 over both Darnold and Allen. I'm sorry, I have to inquire - was this on planet earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: Realisticly, there is no chance the Jets can trade up further than pick #5. And it would take multiple #1 picks to get there from #10 or lower. And we're going to win another game, not sure which one, but I bet we win one more and finish 6-10, picking ~14. We're getting the 5th "best" rated-by-eggheads QB if we go QB. That QB might just be Baker Mayfield, or it might not. It will not be Darnold, Rosen, Jackson or Rudolph, based on today's QB-hype-of-the-moment. No point worrying till it plays itself out tbqh. And what's wrong with that? If they can do it, then do it. Rams went up from 15th spot to number 1 for Goff. Gave up: first-round pick (2016), two second-round picks (2016), a third-round pick (2016), a first-round pick (2017) and another third-round pick (2017). Easy peasy. Mail that in right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Paradis said: I'm sorry, I have to inquire - was this on planet earth? https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2018/QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Warfish said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2018/QB QBs aside, those are some painfully bad rankings. And the QB rankings are pretty bad in their own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, BigO said: Number of teams lack a future QB and the odds are high they will more than likely draft one. From top to bottom - Browns, Giants, Denver, Jets, Cards, Redskins, Bills. I think we’ll be in the 10-15 draft spot and can draft the 4th QB prospect unless we of course move up or get jumped by another team. For arguments sake let’s say we take the 4th best QB off the board. Who would you like and why. My pick Mayfield since Rosen, Darnold go first 2 QB’s and Elway may pull trigger on Allen. Just seems like a natural fit. That leaves Mayfield or Jackson. We have our QB. Anyone we get is a waste since they'll never see the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, BigO said: Number of teams lack a future QB and the odds are high they will more than likely draft one. From top to bottom - Browns, Giants, Denver, Jets, Cards, Redskins, Bills. I think we’ll be in the 10-15 draft spot and can draft the 4th QB prospect unless we of course move up or get jumped by another team. For arguments sake let’s say we take the 4th best QB off the board. Who would you like and why. My pick Mayfield since Rosen, Darnold go first 2 QB’s and Elway may pull trigger on Allen. Just seems like a natural fit. That leaves Mayfield or Jackson. Alex Smith will be our QB next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Alex Smith will be our QB next year. He's too young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Another possible QB to impact the list of teams is Smith where after the way he has fallen off somewhat, Chiefs may just hand the reins over to Mahommes(sp?) and move on from Smith. That puts him on one of those other teams either via trade or by waiver. He could end up with Jags, Washington, or even the Giants if they don't want to fully rebuild. Heck, even Arizona may want him if they don't want to rebuild. In any event, Smith is another QB in play to possibly make more QBs available in the draft for the Jets. The issue is this year is that now the blueprint provided i.e Goff, Wentz, etc. is that many teams may trade a lot to get up higher and invest in a QB even with using up multipel draft picks since those teams got big jumps in success doing that. Only thing is those are QBs at the top 1 and 2 picks, and there is not even a sure thing in this draft to be as good as them. Darnold and Rosen may not be thier equals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, BigO said: Like where? Arena Football like there will be a number of qb's on the market who may be able to perform pretty well. in some respects it's amazing the jets have been able to do so well with old and moldy qb's. fitzy never latched on anywhere and mccown came sporting a 2-22 record. there's something to be said for getting a 4th year free agent like mccarron who has some good game experience. and there are always trading opportunity in the draft and for players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 GOTTA SURROUND MCCOWN AND OUR TWO SAFETIES WITH CB HELP FAM. THEY CAN'T DO IT ALONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: You have Redskins on this list, where does Cousins go? Hopefully with the NY Jets in Florham Park. Dream come true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 If we don’t sign Cousins and are going into the draft with McCown, Petty, Hack then we need to make out with 1 of Rosen, Darnold, Jackson or Mayfield. Mayfield is my choice since he’ll probably fall the furthest of those 4. Also possible that someone falls in love with Allen and he goes before the two non-“prototypical” guys. That being said, if we take Allen, I will lose my sh*t because that guy sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 You know, if Mac wants to take his preferential safe move on a QB, like BradwayJoe1 said, Mccarron should be a FA and hopefully wouldn't break the bank. If that were to occur you would most likely move on from McCown and maybe trade Petty since he has some interested teams that probably would throw a 5th or 6th rounder for him. Then still draft a QB in round 1 or 2 this year so that either him or Maccaron is the guy. We can keep Hack as the 3rd QB if he ever develops into something. We would then still have a few high draft picks at the top of the draft to build the areas of the O needed at Oline, RB, etc. We probably can then use the rest of the draft for other areas to maybe replace Mo, get more LB/CB depth, etc. This plan is safer then trading a boat load of picks to go up like 10 spots in the draft for a QB that may not pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Miodusb said: 4th best might end up being the best. Mayfield is this years Watson IMO. I love the mayfield pick. Needs to improve footwork but so does everyone coming out. He doesn’t have a canon but can make the throws. Very accurate in short yards and on the run. His moxy will spark our offense similar to how Adams did to our defense. On the one hand, I’d like to see the Jets draft Mayfield, but on the other hand, he comes with 100 built-in excuses for Todd Bowles to bury him on the bench forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 11 minutes ago, UnknownJetFan said: You know, if Mac wants to take his preferential safe move on a QB, like BradwayJoe1 said, Mccarron should be a FA and hopefully wouldn't break the bank. I have two problems here-- 1 - Why do you think McCarron is Safe? What has he done to show you or us that he's anything more than a JAG?... how is safe if McCarron sucks and we pass on all the QBs. 2 - Our GM (god bless his heart) will be fired 100% by JANUARY of 2019 if he hasn't found a Quarterback. Safe move? It's hail mary time. He's gonna shoot for the stars one way or another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 3 hours ago, T0mShane said: Hey you changed your profile pic. When does the rap career start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 hours ago, BigO said: Bortles better than Cousins? That’s like saying Pizza Hut is better than Rays Pizza Not in Alabama, Pizza Hut is way better than Ray's or was that Ray-Bob's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 hours ago, MDL_JET said: And what's wrong with that? If they can do it, then do it. Rams went up from 15th spot to number 1 for Goff. Gave up: first-round pick (2016), two second-round picks (2016), a third-round pick (2016), a first-round pick (2017) and another third-round pick (2017). Easy peasy. Mail that in right now. It's a different price depending on the year. For Darnold, you can add in a couple more 1st rounders. Keep in mind we would be competing with other teams who want him so that also adds to the price. The Giants might pick #2 overall. The Bills have 2 #1's, 2 #2's and 2 #3's and clearly they're not fond of Tyrod. The Broncos could make a big move. Cleveland probably wants their pick too btw. This is going to be one heck of an expensive year to trade up to the top. And it's also going to be extremely expensive (in terms of years and dollars) to sign Cousins. You should probably prepare to end up with Alex Smith, as it's our most realistic option. Or Sam Bradford. But hey, we beat Cleveland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Mogglez said: QBs aside, those are some painfully bad rankings. And the QB rankings are pretty bad in their own right. This site must have gotten “Jets Insider’d.” None of the writers/scouts that have been on that site for years are still there. The one guy whose left is new and by the looks of it, lives in his basement, doesn’t watch CFB, and barely updates the web site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, 56mehl56 said: Not in Alabama, Pizza Hut is way better than Ray's or was that Ray-Bob's Pizza Hut is plastic cheese and cardboard. Rays in NY was legendary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 3 hours ago, BroadwayJoe12 said: GOTTA SURROUND MCCOWN AND OUR TWO SAFETIES WITH CB HELP FAM. THEY CAN'T DO IT ALONE Yes get more safeties.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: On the one hand, I’d like to see the Jets draft Mayfield, but on the other hand, he comes with 100 built-in excuses for Todd Bowles to bury him on the bench forever. #1 reason he’d be benched- Baker prefers spaghetti and meatballs over Bubba Shrimp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 6 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: MOst people have Eli going to Jacksonville. See the difficulty with predicting who is going to take a QB is that there may be a few QBs on the move in FA Elis going to Denver. Pax Lynch is a taller, douchier Hackenberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 7 teams will draft a QB - who will we get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Jets are on the clock Mayfield,Allen and Jackson are there.................to be continued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 13 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Jets are on the clock Mayfield,Allen and Jackson are there.................to be continued. Mayfield, and its not close. I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 Best case scenario but I just don’t see it happening. Could Browns will get shut out AGAIN with Rosen and Darnold refusing to sign there? They trade with Giants who take Rosen at 1. 49ers take BPA at 2. Denver trades with Browns and takes Darnold at 3. ? we fall back to 10-15. Jets Cards Bills Skins - if Cousins departs- are all in need of a QB. Mayfield is considerably out of reach. We would have to move up to get Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 15 hours ago, Paradis said: Why? I disagree. From the notes/hype (im reluctant to use the word hype, but anyway) Ive read scouts think his skill set and demeanor offer too much upside to pass on him in round 1. We have been down this road with Hackenberg going in the second (I dont believe for a second he would have lasted until the 4th round like some have said) even though his stats put him way below that. If you look at some of what Allen did last year, as opposed to this year, there is enough there that some team will take him prior to the end of round 1. Personally I pray Mac has learned from the Hack mistake that you just cant teach accuracy, and goes with a QB who has the accuracy, makeup, competitiveness and ability to be a day 1 starter like Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 JT Barrett and the 5th round duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, Philc1 said: JT Barrett and the 5th round duh More like trade up in the 2nd for Barrett... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Just now, freestater said: More like trade up in the 2nd for Barrett... Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 My vote is Mayfield because I think we'll be out of the running for Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 17 hours ago, BigO said: Number of teams lack a future QB and the odds are high they will more than likely draft one. From top to bottom - Browns, Giants, Denver, Jets, Cards, Redskins, Bills. I think we’ll be in the 10-15 draft spot and can draft the 4th QB prospect unless we of course move up or get jumped by another team. For arguments sake let’s say we take the 4th best QB off the board. Who would you like and why. My pick Mayfield since Rosen, Darnold go first 2 QB’s and Elway may pull trigger on Allen. Just seems like a natural fit. That leaves Mayfield or Jackson. Huh ? Why did you leave off bears and 49ers? Don’t say jimmy G ?. McCown will be our qb next 2 yrs we are too far down now to have a quick replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 10 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Jets are on the clock Mayfield,Allen and Jackson are there.................to be continued. And there they will remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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